'19 TX WR Isaiah Neyor

[T2P_Priceless]

If there was no such thing as Rivals or 247... Bama would still employ a REAL recruiting service to evaluate players for them... and pursue elite players.

You are operating on the assumption that they find and sign them all and do so because they're 5*. The recruiting sites "cheat" by paying attention to who coaches with a proven record of pursuing the best players... pursues. It took them a while to recognize that Dabo knows talent. He fielded several great teams with elite talent before getting his first top 5 class.

No they wouldn't and it isn't a "scam". Bama and particularly Saban has a proven track record of pursuing and signing great players. It is very safe for the recruiting sites to consider that in their rankings.


Except you are completely wrong in EVERYTHING you just said here. I'm not sure why you are struggling with this concept so much. Bama wins because Saban knows and signs talent.... not because he chases guys that 247 says are 5*. If the consumer recruiting sites did not exist... Saban would still find and sign great talent. If Saban did not exist then the recruiting sites would lose a very valuable "data point" for their evaluations.

It’s actually more straightforward than cheating. Recently Swain said that they frequently contact recruiting offices at the major schools to find out who they have at the top of their boards and use that for ratings

 

[peaygolf]

VCR tapes

 

[De La Cloobs]

So how scared are we that this dude jumps ship? Any news from the talking heads on the pulse of him staying as of late?

 

[VolByLaw]

Tennessee was by him to see him today I believe

-AP

 

[T2P_Priceless]

Me, too.

Maybe.

Not much has changed. The recruiting sites are for the public, not for the coaches.

 

[JT3]

So we really want this guy?



He commits do we’re going to lose him?



But if he stays, we don’t really want him because he was a 2* coming out of high school?



Am I caught up now?

Oh, so we don't want him now?

 

[LoudOrange]

Oh, so we don't want him now?

No, he doesn't want us.

 

[JT3]

No, he doesn't want us.

What happen all of a sudden?

 

[JT3]

He just was up here this weekend and Ole Miss still doesn't have a QB

 

[VolByLaw]

Neyor stick with the Vols?

Imo yes

-AP

Percentage he ends up in Knoxville?

80%

-AP

 

[volfaninpa]

What are the dates to watch? When does he have to be at UT or Ole Miss to enroll?

 

[Type Orange+]

Not much has changed. The recruiting sites are for the public, not for the coaches.

I can remember when it was no big deal to see two, three, or four SEC head coaches in the stands on a Friday night when they were after a big fish.

The good ol' days.

 

[buckfama]

It’s also close to a lot of strip clubs. So what?

They have some dandy ones down there for sure.

 

[Falcons02]

Neyor stick with the Vols?

-AP

Percentage he ends up in Knoxville?

-AP

Maybe we could say this a little louder for all the trembling pearl-clutchers

 

[VOLINVONORE]

It’s actually more straightforward than cheating. Recently Swain said that they frequently contact recruiting offices at the major schools to find out who they have at the top of their boards and use that for ratings

Swain? I don't have a lot of confidence in Swain's attempts to make a splash.

 

[Jackcrevol]

Swain? I don't have a lot of confidence in Swain's attempts to make a splash.

Ainge is the drunk Uncle. Swain is the guy who spent too much time on Govt conspiracy sites.

 

[RhodesVol]

AP reaffirmed today on the VQ Podcast that he believes UT is "in great shape there coming out of the visit."

He wouldn't just say that, because if Neyor flips to Ole Miss is makes him look bad. If they miss enough over time, then people treat them like the mods and insiders at some other schools that are continually wrong, and ultimately in negatively impacts VQ's subscriptions.

So, I will just continue to believe that we have him until we don't. The people proclaiming that he's gone and he's been delivered the bag by Ole Miss are operating off of rank speculation.

 

[peaygolf]

I can remember when it was no big deal to see two, three, or four SEC head coaches in the stands on a Friday night when they were after a big fish.

The good ol' days.

Still the best way to evaluate talent....

I'm no evaluator.............but I watched to Wilhoite kid from FRA that went to Oregon, Kane Patterson that went to Clemson and Tymon Mitchell from FRA that went to UGA.
In person, none of them stood out as anything special..........Eye test is the best evaluator.

 

[wmcovol]

Swain? I don't have a lot of confidence in Swain's attempts to make a splash.

Swain is right about this. Coaches and recruiting offices influence All State & Other post season awards.

 

[Nashvegas31]

Ainge is the drunk Uncle. Swain is the guy who spent too much time on Govt conspiracy sites.

When Swain first got started I would probably agree with this but the longer he has been in the media game and built more connections he knows a lot more than he puts on. He drops hints based on things as long as he doesn’t think it will affect what will happen. I have started listening to some of his shows over past few months when before I would never listen. It probably helps McKee is co host and involved with VQ as well. So I tend to listen when they drop hints.

 

[peaygolf]

Swain is right about this. Coaches and recruiting offices influence All State & Other post season awards.

TSWA All-State Football Teams For Class 6A, 5A, & 4A

Some made All-State on name alone. It's a joke..........Plus.....3 All-State QB's????

 

[Sudden Impact]

One more note and this the last 8 pages should have its own thread.

Now for the Note, this was a while back, but didn't somebody create a 4* or 5* recruit from the Eastern Tennessee Area that received Offers, buzz and a National ranking. I am sure it happened, made national news which is an indicator of Recruiting services and what they really offer....

 

[VolzMan53]

Hamilton opinion(247) vs Sawbuck(VQ) opinion....

I’m not ready to say it’s locked up just yet. Until he announces something or arrives on campus, anything is possible.
Tennessee went to see Neyor yesterday, and I think the Vols are still pretty optimistic. But no one I’ve spoken with is ready to say that Tennessee is completely out of the woods.

-Callahan

and also from Bob_Vols....

Staff is optimistic he will be a Vol. There’s been plenty of dialogue. I’ll be surprised if he is not in Knoxville this weekend.

and David Johnson @Rebels247 is still FOS with his latest quip!

 

[Volfansince1980]

One more note and this the last 8 pages should have its own thread.

Now for the Note, this was a while back, but didn't somebody create a 4* or 5* recruit from the Eastern Tennessee Area that received Offers, buzz and a National ranking. I am sure it happened, made national news which is an indicator of Recruiting services and what they really offer....

It was this kid.

Rivals, 247 Sports give non-existent football "recruit" a three-star ranking

Fake recuit leads 247Sports to change ranking policy

 

[HalfullVol]

He just was up here this weekend and Ole Miss still doesn't have a QB

Ole Miss is waiting until the Spring to bring in QB's from the portal as they don't have enough room on the roster currently.

that's how we do it here, right?