Tyler Summitt and Mickie Demoss should be here next season

[BruisedOrange]

...Holly is pushing 60, and obviously already showing signs of wear and tear with the ETSU sit-down...

The silent sit down is something Pat did at least once. It was her way of telling the team, if you're not going to do what I've told you, then I'm not going to waste my energy telling you again.

The time I remember when Pat did it, it forced the players to self-examine and correct their play. Might have been during the Candace years, not sure...

 

[LVJeff]

I truly admire Tyler for not taking the easy route back here to Tennessee. He gained great assistant experience at Marquette, a world as far removed from his mother's legacy as possible. Now, as head coach, he's trying to rebuild a once-proud program in La Tech, Pat's first real nemesis ... brave and hopefully brilliant move.

Tyler will be the first to admit he's not ready to take on the responsibility of the Lady Vols yet, and he has too much respect and love for his Aunt Holly to even voice an opinion concerning the subject.

But don't kid yourself or doubt the fact he wants to be back home one day protecting, and hopefully improving upon, the legacy his pioneer mother built. He's only 25 and Holly is pushing 60, and obviously already showing signs of wear and tear with the ETSU sit-down, so Tyler will be the next LV head coach. As it should be.

Go Lady Vols!

Are you Tyler's PR agent or something?

 

[musolfmj]

I have no idea what level Tyler's coaching is at, or how he is doing at management of a program. But I believe if you re-joined that last name with the University of Tennessee and the enthusiasm of youth, the recruiting draw would be excellent from day 1.

 

[mlindsay]

I have no idea what level Tyler's coaching is at, or how he is doing at management of a program. But I believe if you re-joined that last name with the University of Tennessee and the enthusiasm of youth, the recruiting draw would be excellent from day 1.

A tad bit premature/sarcastic but I think he will certainly be the coach here when Candace Parker daughter (she is almost guaranteed to be between 6'4 and 6'9/6"10"), and Glory Johnson twin girls arrive lol

 

[madtownvol]

Wasn't Pat SUmmit like 25 years old, when she became the head coach? I think she was awfully young to run a program of our size. She had experience as a player at U.T. Martin and as a player in the Olympics but not as a coach. Being in the spot light at U.Tl is a ton of pressure to put on her at her age.

There was no spotlight when CPS took over the fledgling LVs program. They were lucky to draw 100 spectators in their first games. In the 1970's women's b-ball, except for a few hotbeds in the Northeast, was a side show.

 

[Volfan2012]

Holly isn't going anywhere this year or next she has plenty of talent in those two season to get 25 plus wins and keep the job. That will give us plenty of time to see if Tyler has what it takes to be a head coach. He should be winning a title in that league if he is a capable coach.
We don't want to hire him here because he has a name we want him here if he can win and that should be determined in the next three seasons.

 

[Sandvol]

The silent sit down is something Pat did at least once. It was her way of telling the team, if you're not going to do what I've told you, then I'm not going to waste my energy telling you again.

The time I remember when Pat did it, it forced the players to self-examine and correct their play. Might have been during the Candace years, not sure...

Was that after she won six championships or seven?

 

[teacherdean]

Holly isn't going anywhere this year or next she has plenty of talent in those two season to get 25 plus wins and keep the job. That will give us plenty of time to see if Tyler has what it takes to be a head coach. He should be winning a title in that league if he is a capable coach.
We don't want to hire him here because he has a name we want him here if he can win and that should be determined in the next three seasons.

Holly had better recruit better or Tyler will have very little to build on. Failure to recruit your areas of need may not bite you in the rear today but in the not too distant future it is going to take a big chunk out of you rear. You can't wish it done you have to make it done.

 

[teacherdean]

I think that Holly is frustrated because of the way things are playing out. I think she is giving the program all she has to give. She is trying her best to reach the elite level. I do not question her effort but that just might not be enough. To make that judgement call we need to see her with all hands on deck or enough where she has the ability to succeed. Sometimes you just need someone to come in with a different point of view other then what was successful in the past. What this team seems to need is a pair of fresh offensive eyes and a coach with the ability to make changes on the fly when their original plans go to hell in a hand cart. Based on what I see now Holly is not that person.

 

[Volstylexx]

I think that Holly is frustrated because of the way things are playing out. I think she is giving the program all she has to give. She is trying her best to reach the elite level. I do not question her effort but that just might not be enough. To make that judgement call we need to see her with all hands on deck or enough where she has the ability to succeed. Sometimes you just need someone to come in with a different point of view other then what was successful in the past. What this team seems to need is a pair of fresh offensive eyes and a coach with the ability to make changes on the fly when their original plans go to hell in a hand cart. Based on what I see now Holly is not that person.

I lost all faith in Holly after the ETSU game when she said she got frustrated in the first quarter and just sit down and let them do whatever they wanted. This is not street ball. If you're going to sit there and not coach, then you should quit immediately.

 

[ivyleague]

I lost all faith in Holly after the ETSU game when she said she got frustrated in the first quarter and just sit down and let them do whatever they wanted. This is not street ball. If you're going to sit there and not coach, then you should quit immediately.

So, when Pat did the same thing, are you in agreement that she should have quit, as well?

Holly sat to get their attention, not because she didn't know what wlse to do. She knew exactly what she was doing, and it worked.

 

[Volstylexx]

So, when Pat did the same thing, are you in agreement that she should have quit, as well?

Holly sat to get their attention, not because she didn't know what wlse to do. She knew exactly what she was doing, and it worked.

Are you really Comparing Holly to Pat? Pat used it as a motivational technique, Holly did it because she herself stated, "didn't know what else to do." Big difference.

 

[ivyleague]

Are you really Comparing Holly to Pat? Pat used it as a motivational technique, Holly did it because she herself stated, "didn't know what else to do." Big difference.

Holly did it to motivate, as well.

 

[Volstylexx]

Holly did it to motivate, as well.

Holly's post game interview with Knox news sentinel "I didn't know what else to do". Her words, not mine.

 

[Trixietrouble]

I lost all faith in Holly after the ETSU game when she said she got frustrated in the first quarter and just sit down and let them do whatever they wanted. This is not street ball. If you're going to sit there and not coach, then you should quit immediately.

If this is really what happened (letting them do whatever they want), this is disturbing.

Any team of Tennessee's stature can play loose against lower quality teams.

The ladies need to understand that they will need to follow a strict game plan in order to compete with better teams (like two coming up out west).

If they go out and do what they want against Oregon State, I think they'll get beat.

 

[cd12]

Absolutely not. Giving the job to Tyler because of his name would be like giving it to Holly because of her loyalty. Has to be based on merit. Not name or loyalty.

Ever think that Holly got the position as a condition of Pat's departure and the smoke surrounding it?

 

[teacherdean]

I lost all faith in Holly after the ETSU game when she said she got frustrated in the first quarter and just sit down and let them do whatever they wanted. This is not street ball. If you're going to sit there and not coach, then you should quit immediately.

You got something there. Why would a coach make such a stupid statement? The crap that comes out of that lady's mouth during interviews. No wonder she is having problems recruiting. We have bigger problem than I thought.

 

[Volstylexx]

she also says she took the 2nd half off and didn't coach. She should be docked pay for "taking the 2nd half off." Pathetic!

Holly Warlick on Lady Vols' win over ETSU (Dec. 2, 2015) - YouTube

 

[ivyleague]

My God. Some of you people are completely out of your minds. Holly said she would not coach effort; that should be something the players possess intrinsically. She was frustrated with their lack of execution and rightfully so. I don't care what some of you couch-potato gurus say, much of the blame for this team's recent sh**** play has been on the shoulders of the players, not the coaches. I have every confidence that the coaches had a perfectly fine game plan, but it was lackadaisical and emotionless play on the part of the players that has led to the close games and the Texas loss (along with other factors -- injuries, lack of solid team chemistry, etc.)

If you listen to what the players have said rather than the voices inside your heads, you will realize that the players are owning much of the blame for the poor play. Holly knows what they are capable of and was rightfully frustrated and angry when they weren't executing what she knows the are capable of. She sent a message to them, which I believe they have received clearly. While there may still be some struggles as this team finds its identity, I don't think we are going to see the same effortless play that we've seen over the first few games.

Stop adding more to this than is there. Holly didn't sit down and quit because she could no longer handle coaching them or because she didn't know how to coach them. She did what she did to send a message -- and that was very likely the only (or at least the quickest, most effective) way to get through to them. In other words, she didn't know what else to do to get through to them, as she'd probably tried everything else. This sent a clear and immediate message. The players acknowledge it for what it is. Why can't you?

If you people knew half as much as you think you do (or want others to think you do), you would actually be coaching somewhere and making a difference, not just spewing mindless drivel and whiny platitudes on an internet forum. Much of what I see here appears to be the product of miserable lives with nothing better to do than throw out impotent, valueless vitriol about matters that you 1) have no control over and 2) don't DESERVE any control over. I wouldn't be surprised to learn that most of you go home each evening to empty houses, eat alone, and go to bed alone at night. And for those of you who don't go home to empty houses . . . I bet whoever is unfortunate enough to live with you wishes he or she could.

 

[Volstylexx]

My God. Some of you people are completely out of your minds. Holly said she would not coach effort; that should be something the players possess intrinsically. She was frustrated with their lack of execution and rightfully so. I don't care what some of you couch-potato gurus say, much of the blame for this team's recent sh**** play has been on the shoulders of the players, not the coaches. I have every confidence that the coaches had a perfectly fine game plan, but it was lackadaisical and emotionless play on the part of the players that has led to the close games and the Texas loss (along with other factors -- injuries, lack of solid team chemistry, etc.)

If you listen to what the players have said rather than the voices inside your heads, you will realize that the players are owning much of the blame for the poor play. Holly knows what they are capable of and was rightfully frustrated and angry when they weren't executing what she knows the are capable of. She sent a message to them, which I believe they have received clearly. While there may still be some struggles as this team finds its identity, I don't think we are going to see the same effortless play that we've seen over the first few games.

Stop adding more to this than is there. Holly didn't sit down and quit because she could no longer handle coaching them or because she didn't know how to coach them. She did what she did to send a message -- and that was very likely the only (or at least the quickest, most effective) way to get through to them. In other words, she didn't know what else to do to get through to them, as she'd probably tried everything else. This sent a clear and immediate message. The players acknowledge it for what it is. Why can't you?

If you people knew half as much as you think you do (or want others to think you do), you would actually be coaching somewhere and making a difference, not just spewing mindless drivel and whiny platitudes on an internet forum. Much of what I see here appears to be the product of miserable lives with nothing better to do than throw out impotent, valueless vitriol about matters that you 1) have no control over and 2) don't DESERVE any control over. I wouldn't be surprised to learn that most of you go home each evening to empty houses, eat alone, and go to bed alone at night. And for those of you who don't go home to empty houses . . . I bet whoever is unfortunate enough to live with you wishes he or she could.

:thud: guess you're a coach then? I'm willing to let you coaching next game if you're available? Holly will be sitting out.

 

[ivyleague]

:thud: guess you're a coach then? I'm willing to let you coaching next game if you're available? Holly will be sitting out.

No, I'm not a coach. Are you a coach? You don't strike me as mature enough to be much of a coach of anything, unless it might be a covert game of beer pong in your mommy and daddy's garage during a middle school sleepover.

 

[Volstylexx]

No, I'm not a coach. Are you a coach? You don't strike me as mature enough to be much of a coach of anything, unless it might be a covert game of beer pong in your mommy and daddy's garage during a middle school sleepover.

I'm actually a Ph.D. Graduate from the university of Tennessee who happens to be a diehard lady vol fan - who has, by the way, been a staunch supporter of Holly Warlick until the last few games. She's clearly over her head.

 

[ivyleague]

I'm actually a Ph.D. Graduate from the university of Tennessee who happens to be a diehard lady vol fan - who has, by the way, been a staunch supporter of Holly Warlick until the last few games. She's clearly over her head.

Whatever you say.

If you were a realistic fan, you would realize that much of the poor play has been due to carelessness and lack of intense effort on the part of the players (compounded by the fact that this team is still building chemistry and learning to play together), not lack of a game plan. The players own this, and I think they were deeply affected by the knowledge that they disappointed their coach as profoundly as they did.

 

[Volstylexx]

Whatever you say.

If you were a realistic fan, you would realize that much of the poor play has been due to carelessness and lack of intense effort on the part of the players (compounded by the fact that this team is still building chemistry and learning to play together), not lack of a game plan. The players own this, and I think they were deeply affected by the knowledge that they disappointed their coach as profoundly as they did.

I would agree with you Ivy, however Holly has said several times she doesn't know what to do with this team. I've never seen a coach say they chose to not coach the 2nd half of a game- regardless if they felt there was poor effort by the players. She has also said they weren't running offensive sets, that the players were just playing. I know firsthand from someone from last year's team that part of the reason the players don't play with full effort is that they don't respect Holly. That combination of a coach who doesn't want to coach and players who don't want to play for that coach is a recipe for a disaster.

 

[ivyleague]

I would agree with you Ivy, however Holly has said several times she doesn't know what to do with this team. I've never seen a coach say they chose to not coach the 2nd half of a game- regardless if they felt there was poor effort by the players. She has also said they weren't running offensive sets, that the players were just playing. I know firsthand from someone from last year's team that part of the reason the players don't play with full effort is that they don't respect Holly. That combination of a coach who doesn't want to coach and players who don't want to play for that coach is a recipe for a disaster.

*facepalm*

Every time I think posts here couldn't possibly get any dumber, someone proves me wrong. I weep for humanity.

(For what it's worth, after Holly sat down, some of the players tried to get her to respond to them and lighten the mood. That tells me they like and respect her a great deal, and they were bothered by the fact that they had upset her to the point that they had and wanted to make it better. To claim that these players don't respect her or want to play for her is utter drivel and you ought to be ashamed of yourself.)

Good job, I guess.