Tyler Summitt resigns

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Unless you are perfect yourself. I have been married for a lot of years and never messed around on my wife. That said, I don't believe in kicking a person when they are down. He messed up, he's not perfect.
 
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madtownvol said:
Let's not conflate a desire to support Tyler with the legal circumstances. In this case, consent does not matter one whit.

I am a college professor. If I had a sexual relation with A STUDENT IN MY CLASS OR UNDER MY SUPERVISION, I would be subject to disciplinary action, including dismissal. Do you understand? This action is a violation of code of conduct policies; you simply can't do it within the regulations that govern faculty behaviors, unless you are very good at keeping completely secret. Once it is know, consenting or not consenting, it is a violation.

These codes are written with the assumption that there is a power discrepancy between faculty and students or coaches and athletes. Tyler had to know the code of conduct policies because that is a part of one's institutional training. In effect, he broke the rules, took the risk, and is now paying the consequences.

Now, in the future, a University who would be looking at Tyler for a coaching spot has to ask: do we trust someone who has violated one of the most important axioms of University code of conduct policies (official)? and who did so while married (a subjective and moralistic assessment that is bound to be made at least some institutions and to be a concern among alumni).

I appreciate the motivation for the counterarguments seeking to defend Tyler Summitt's besieged reputation. In effect, this is Tyler Summitt, Pat's son! We know he is a good guy who would not do a bad thing; if Tyler had an affair it, it must have been a justifiable situation, somehow, someway, just because....

Well, let's put aside the issue of his being married and cheating on his wife; If we just take that small matter out of the equation, then it is very possible Tyler can still be a good guy if both parties were consenting adults, right?

NO, not in his role as coach!! He had a institutional responsibility to maintain a professional relationship with his athletes. He violated a trust that came with his position. If he did not want that responsibility, then he should have not taken the job.

Let me ask you this. if this were Geno A. in similar circumstances, would you be defending him?
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Just to clarify one point. I did leave out a word by accident in my last paragraph that changes the meaning of what I meant to communicate. I think Tyler deserves to be fired and deserves to have his career as a WCBB coach go up in flames. You don't go around sleeping with the players on the team, period. That's about the worse thing you can do as a coach, and he doesn't deserve a second chance as far as that is concerned. His short career and lack of success will be barriers to programs taking a chance on him. Ironically, if it was Geno, I can see schools forgiving him because he is a winner. Nonetheless, I strongly believe that coaches who do this sort of stuff should be finished.

As far as the use of the term "victim", we don't know the nature of their relationship. Once the facts come out, then we will know more. But she should not automatically be assumed to be a victim. If she was pursued by Tyler and forced to give him sexual favors or else he was going to ruin her career...then yes. But not if she was the one who pursued him while he was an assistant at Marquette and then followed her boyfriend to LA Tech when he got his new job, either because she was an opportunist or just wanted to continue the relationship. In either case, Tyler deserves to be fired and blacklisted. But in only one of those scenarios is the player a "victim".
 
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Zues1 said:
Just a sad, sad story to taint his mothers legacy by following in his fathers footsteps. Especially as she lives out her life in the fog of dementia, SMH.

Tyler is forever tied to this university, another black eye. Good lord can this sports community ever catch a break.

My recommendations to that young man is to try and correct the wrongs with your wife.
Take care of this young lady who is apparently with child.
Once those things are set on the right course move to Europe for ten years.
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It'll blow over quickly outside of those involved.
 
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wildnkrazykat said:
Yup. High school sweethearts can work but people change.
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While he was with mens bball team my niece was working in ticket office. She said Tyler asked her out. At the time me and my dad (her grandfather) teased her you should take him up on it and become a Summitt. Turns out she was smarter than we were as apparently being his significant other isnt exclusive.
 
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2Alum4EverVol said:
http://www.hannapub.com/basketball-...cle_b13f26bc-3c54-11e5-8b1d-9f155990c341.html

It's all speculation at this point, but it does appear that their relationship (Tyler Summit and Brooke Pumoroy?) at Marquette was all professional. It evolved into what it was once they transferred to LA Tech. After reading the article I can easily see what happened...
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I can't imagine Brooke saying to a reporter, "And then Tyler was moving to LA Tech, but I've been sleeping with him for 2 years and he's gonna leave his wife for me, so I followed him."

At this point, we don't know how the relationship came to be. Nothing in the article says otherwise.
 
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livefaith said:
I have respect for a man who totally owns up to his mistakes, doesn't blame others or circumstances, and takes responsibility that includes real penalty. Tyler did that and I give him credit for it. Not many in this day and age are capable of doing all three.
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What was he going to do--deny it, with a pregnant player walking around?

Is she a victim? To me, yes: coaches don't mess with players. PERIOD. It has been suggested on the La. Tech board that this started at Marquette, when Summitt was an assistant coach and, what 21 or 22 years old? Some might say that his youth, then, was a mitigating circumstance. Certainly, every university has an obligation to spell out to its coaches--all of them, even young assistants--that you don't mess around with players. If they were involved at Marquette, it is easy to see why she ended up following him to La.Tech--he could have asked her, she could have asked him; it was probably mutual. That was a fatal decision for Summitt, because when you become a head coach you no longer have /any/ excuse for having sex with a player. You might get a little sympathy in some quarters if you are an 22-year-old grad assistant caught having sex with, say, a 19-year-old player--though you're still going to get fired by every head coach/AD in the country, I would think. But when you are a head coach, there is no slack and no sympathy. He needed to end it, and didn't--and now his career--and to a certain degree his life--is a bonfire.
 
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Amb3096 said:
I can't imagine Brooke saying to a reporter, "And then Tyler was moving to LA Tech, but I've been sleeping with him for 2 years and he's gonna leave his wife for me, so I followed him."

At this point, we don't know how the relationship came to be. Nothing in the article says otherwise.
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You have a point there; what's troubling is that according to the article Santos sought for a transfer right after Tyler got a job offer at La Tech & BEFORE her head coach at Marquette got fired. I can expect the worst scenario now; maybe Tyler got romantically involved with Santos at first and then moved on to Pumroy later, and got the latter pregnant. Sad sad story. Very messy..
 
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2Alum4EverVol said:
You have a point there; what's troubling is that according to the article Santos sought for a transfer right after Tyler got a job offer at La Tech & BEFORE her head coach at Marquette got fired. I can expect the worst scenario now; maybe Tyler got romantically involved with Santos at first and then moved on to Pumroy later, and got the latter pregnant. Sad sad story. Very messy..
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could also be that Tyler was the meat in a Pumroy-Santos sandwich :)
 
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2Alum4EverVol said:
You have a point there; what's troubling is that according to the article Santos sought for a transfer right after Tyler got a job offer at La Tech & BEFORE her head coach at Marquette got fired. I can expect the worst scenario now; maybe Tyler got romantically involved with Santos at first and then moved on to Pumroy later, and got the latter pregnant. Sad sad story. Very messy..
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One word...
Paternity test.
 
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utfantilidie said:
Unless you are perfect yourself. I have been married for a lot of years and never messed around on my wife. That said, I don't believe in kicking a person when they are down. He messed up, he's not perfect.
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You're right, people need to ignore what he has done here. Hopefully his wife is dumb enough to forgive him and keep their marriage. Hopefully he can get another head coaching gig soon.


Should have put this all in blue
 
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Zues1 said:
Just a sad, sad story to taint his mothers legacy by following in his fathers footsteps. Especially as she lives out her life in the fog of dementia, SMH.

Tyler is forever tied to this university, another black eye. Good lord can this sports community ever catch a break.

My recommendations to that young man is to try and correct the wrongs with your wife.
Take care of this young lady who is apparently with child.
Once those things are set on the right course move to Europe for ten years.
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Good grief some of you people need help! He did not taint his mothers legacy in any way, I highly doubt she helped him bang this chick. And just because he is the son of one of our legendary coaches in no ****ing way reflects on UT.
 
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hog88 said:
Good grief some of you people need help! He did not taint his mothers legacy in any way, I highly doubt she helped him bang this chick. And just because he is the son of one of our legendary coaches in no ****ing way reflects on UT.
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Blame Pearl
 
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