Tyler Summitt resigns

[BruinVol]

Not sure what you are getting at here. If you're going into legal/lawyer crap then I'll just exit the convo.

If you are trying to tell me this college senior is a victim of rape or something like it from TS then I'm gonna find that hard to believe.

Not rape but plenty of times persons of authority have put subordinates in positions where they feel they hAve no choice but to consent. Not saying that happened here but just saying consent was given means nothing IMO when it involves a person in authority

 

[LA Vol]

It's laughable to think a 22-year-old woman can't tell a 25-year-old guy to back off. She's a big girl. She probably could've taken him down if he did something she didn't like. Not that she would've had to. She could have reported it to another coach, the university, the police, her parents... lots of authority figures. That would've put a quick stop to it... if she wanted it to stop.

 

[BruinVol]

It's laughable to think a 22-year-old woman can't tell a 25-year-old guy to back off. She's a big girl. She probably could've taken him down if he did something she didn't like. Not that she would've had to. She could have reported it to another coach, the university, the police, her parents... lots of authority figures. That would've put a quick stop to it... if she wanted it to stop.

lol

Perhaps basketball was important to her?

Perhaps she didn't want to ruin all the hard work of her teammates to go down the drain?

Perhaps she was embarrassed and didn't want anyone to know?

Plenty of reasons to play the submissive

 

[BigZiti09]

lol

Perhaps basketball was important to her?

Perhaps she didn't want to ruin all the hard work of her teammates to go down the drain?

Perhaps she was embarrassed and didn't want anyone to know?

Plenty of reasons to play the submissive

I'm glad I am raising a daughter who will be taught how to stand up for herself and also taught how to avoid becoming a helpless victim.

 

[BruinVol]

I'm glad I am raising a daughter who will be taught how to stand up for herself and also taught how to avoid becoming a helpless victim.

That's a fine line I am trying to teach my kids to look up to their coaches and do what they say. It's very sad that may be very bad advice

 

[LA Vol]

lol

Perhaps basketball was important to her?

Perhaps she didn't want to ruin all the hard work of her teammates to go down the drain?

Perhaps she was embarrassed and didn't want anyone to know?

Plenty of reasons to play the submissive

Oh, c'mon. That's caveman thinking. Women can and do take care of themselves. They don't submit to the HC because they don't want to let the team down. There is zero chance this woman would have lost her scholarship if she had reported unwanted attention from a coach. That's just silly, and you know it.

 

[Biopsyman]

I can't imagine him having to break the news to his mother and wife.

Maybe his lawyer told him to burn his phone and computer

 

[BruinVol]

Oh, c'mon. That's caveman thinking. Women can and do take care of themselves. They don't submit to the HC because they don't want to let the team down. There is zero chance this woman would have lost her scholarship if she had reported unwanted attention from a coach. That's just silly, and you know it.

Didn't say anything about Losing her scholly

It's pretty easy to see she could have ruined the entire season for her teammates if she reported it during the season

 

[Coffy73]

lol

Perhaps basketball was important to her?

Then she could have stayed at Marquette and played ball. This was not a submissive little flower succumbing to Tyler's dominant alpha male whatever. This is just another case of two grown people committing adultery. He lost his job because of it, as he should. He might even lose his marriage, but that should be it as far as victim/crime what have you.

 

[Amb3096]

lol

Perhaps basketball was important to her?

Perhaps she didn't want to ruin all the hard work of her teammates to go down the drain?

Perhaps she was embarrassed and didn't want anyone to know?

Plenty of reasons to play the submissive

Including:

Perhaps she didn't want to earn her playing time and wanted the easiest route to a starring role on the team?

Perhaps she didn't want to pass on a golden opportunity to bag a rich guy?

Perhaps she just liked him and was hoping he would leave his wife?

Being opportunistic does not mean you are a victim.

Not saying this is necessarily the case here. We don't know what the circumstances for how they got together, whether or not Tyler was threatening her basketball career if she didn't give it up, how long this went on for, etc... In all honesty, I doubt this information will ever come out. So it's premature to call her a victim or a sl_t unless this information ever comes to light.

 

[1982Alum]

Sounds like Tyler needs to follow in his Mom's footsteps.

That is, immediately go to the Mayo clinic and see if you also have early onset of Alzheimer's.

What was he thinking?

 

[Vol 67]

You think he owns up to this if she wasn't PG?

At first I thought, why does it matter as to whether she is a point guard. Then the light slowly came on.

 

[LA Vol]

That's a fine line I am trying to teach my kids to look up to their coaches and do what they say. It's very sad that may be very bad advice

So if a coach says, "lie down, take your clothes off and do what I say," your kids will submissively obey?

I hope my kids will refuse to do something they don't believe is right and tell someone or ask for help when faced with a situation that makes them uncomfortable. I'd rather teach my kids to be strong, independent, questioning and follow their own moral compass than submit to someone else's. I guess we're different.

 

[BruinVol]

So if a coach says, "lie down, take your clothes off and do what I say," your kids will submissively obey?

I hope my kids will refuse to do something they don't believe is right and tell someone or ask for help when faced with a situation that makes them uncomfortable. I'd rather teach my kids to be strong, independent, questioning and follow their own moral compass than submit to someone else's. I guess we're different.

We found some common ground

I just think there is fine line with that for sure. Kids need to respect and trust those in authority over them. They need to "trust"
What they are being told to do even when they don't understand it . That's part of growing up.

Sure there comes a point where the line is crossed from right to wrong but it's a shame anyone should ever have to worry about a coach crossing that line. Coaches have more influence than any other person besides parents in a kids life IMO

 

[Biopsyman]

As George Constanza once said.. " Was that wrong"

 

[ttocswob]

Blame Pearl

When it's really Kevin O'Neill's fault?

 

[brassie]

Sounds like Tyler needs to follow in his Mom's footsteps.

That is, immediately go to the Mayo clinic and see if you also have early onset of Alzheimer's.

What was he thinking?

I don't know what he was thinking but I'm sure it was all coming from the small brain.

 

[brassie]

So if a coach says, "lie down, take your clothes off and do what I say," your kids will submissively obey?

I hope my kids will refuse to do something they don't believe is right and tell someone or ask for help when faced with a situation that makes them uncomfortable. I'd rather teach my kids to be strong, independent, questioning and follow their own moral compass than submit to someone else's. I guess we're different.

Or maybe when a hot young thing says "coach, lay down and take off your things . . . . ."

 

[LA Vol]

We found some common ground

I just think there is fine line with that for sure. Kids need to respect and trust those in authority over them. They need to "trust"
What they are being told to do even when they don't understand it . That's part of growing up.

Sure there comes a point where the line is crossed from right to wrong but it's a shame anyone should ever have to worry about a coach crossing that line. Coaches have more influence than any other person besides parents in a kids life IMO

Sadly, teachers, principals and coaches have been abusing trust for decades. And for all the precautions taken, it will continue.

There's no evidence that this was a coercive situation, though, and this woman was not a child. Tyler Summitt exhibited poor judgment and I'm sure he violated the terms of his employment contract, but it is highly likely that the player was complicit. The biggest unknown is motive; the outcome was inevitable.

 

[casetopia]

Sadly, teachers, principals and coaches have been abusing trust for decades. And for all the precautions taken, it will continue.

There's no evidence that this was a coercive situation, though, and this woman was not a child. Tyler Summitt exhibited poor judgment and I'm sure he violated the terms of his employment contract, but it is highly likely that the player was complicit. The biggest unknown is motive; the outcome was inevitable.

the motive was to get his rocks off

 

[volmania8]

Transfer from Marquette ? :idea::question:

I thought the same thing. Wonder if this has been going on for years now.

 

[PointGuard]

"None of us know what the circumstances and truths are....... "

Yet, why let that stop a lot of us from blathering like we do?

I feel so bad for Tyler's wife

 

[RDU VOL#14]

It's laughable to think a 22-year-old woman can't tell a 25-year-old guy to back off. She's a big girl. She probably could've taken him down if he did something she didn't like. Not that she would've had to. She could have reported it to another coach, the university, the police, her parents... lots of authority figures. That would've put a quick stop to it... if she wanted it to stop.

Woah woah, just stop. Ok? You're bringing logic and reasoning into this thread and that is something that is severely lacking thus far.
I just keep going back to the line "that poor woman" from The Big Lebowski". That's what a lot of you sound like. If he was 35 and she was 32 or 45 and 42 none of you would care. They are both young and made immature decisions. I know I wasn't ready to be married at 25, and in no way does that excuse his behavior or her behavior, but immature people make poor choices. Now he's going to pay for it, literally and figuratively.

 

[armchair]

Including:

Perhaps she didn't want to earn her playing time and wanted the easiest route to a starring role on the team?

Perhaps she didn't want to pass on a golden opportunity to bag a rich guy?

Perhaps she just liked him and was hoping he would leave his wife?

Being opportunistic does not mean you are a victim.

Not saying this is necessarily the case here. We don't know what the circumstances for how they got together, whether or not Tyler was threatening her basketball career if she didn't give it up, how long this went on for, etc... In all honesty, I doubt this information will ever come out. So it's premature to call her a victim or a sl_t unless this information ever comes to light.

it doesn't matter what she is or was: He was the authority figure, as assistant coach and/or head coach, and the onus was on him to be the responsible adult. Summitt would have been wise to hold off getting married. I guess I know why some people get married in their early 20s, but I would recommend against it as those who do have a very high chance of being divorced after about 10 years, often sooner. One's 20s are the years to explore, have fun, find your niche, and gradually mature. He's facing a hard lesson--her, too.

 

[77' Vol]

It is amazing how brief periods of lust/lack of judgment can ruin so many lives. Of course nobody ever thinks it will happen to them but it does...... I pray for Pat/her family and the player/player's family and hope that they can make the best of an extremely difficult situation. May God bless and protect the child.