U.S. Navy Not Fit For War

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Grand Vol said:
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Unreal! Space Force Lt. General calls laws protecting kids from genital mutilation "dangerous for service members," says access to “gender-affirming care” supersedes personal qualifications when promoting officers
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Embarrassment. We are in trouble. Between this, the news that Chinese military coming through the southern border infiltrating the country, Xi making a mockery of the Biden Administration, idiots like Gates and others sucking up to China....the future is going ro be really interesting with this woke bureaucracy leading us toward major challenges on the world stage.
 
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BreatheUT said:
Embarrassment. We are in trouble. Between this, the news that Chinese military coming through the southern border infiltrating the country, Xi making a mockery of the Biden Administration, idiots like Gates and others sucking up to China....the future is going ro be really interesting with this woke bureaucracy leading us toward major challenges on the world stage.
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But we're respected again!
 
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Grand Vol said:
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Unreal! Space Force Lt. General calls laws protecting kids from genital mutilation "dangerous for service members," says access to “gender-affirming care” supersedes personal qualifications when promoting officers
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You know, the really odd part of this story is the service branch. The Air Force is the branch with the most active bloc of Christian conservatives in its officer corps. There were issues at the AF Academy because of aggressive proselytizing in the early 2000s with multiple complaints by Jewish cadets being pushed to attend evangelical services. This would be a huge change in basic nature of the AF.
 
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hog88 said:
The A-10 should have always been an Army asset.
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Key West disagrees...

However, I think the military as a whole is heading right off a cliff with the warriors ethos. Or lack thereof. All the services are bad about buying pretty new toys with limited capabilities.
 
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Even When the Navy Tried to Do The Right Thing, Politics Won Out

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Defense acquisition takes a lot of flak, most of it entirely deserved.

The services, being at heart big government bureaucracies, compete with each other for resources, capabilities and influence – impact on overall spending be damned. They could not survive an audit, and billions of dollars seem to slip into the ether each year.


They protect their interests, try not to let any funding already acquired not be used to its fullest and jealously guard their turf.

But every once in a while, the services do it right. They see a program that doesn’t measure up, and they make the tough decision to get rid of it. They forgo a capability, opt for efficiency and call for going back to the drawing board.

The Navy has made this difficult decision with the Freedom Class Littoral Combat Ship. These are small and fast ships – they can go up to 50 miles per hour – designed to operate in shallow water near shorelines against asymmetric threats such as the gun boats used by Iran.

But the ships have never worked as planned. It took 12 years longer than expected to produce the first ships, and they came in at more than $500 million per unit – more than twice their estimated cost of $220 million. Navy officers referred to them as the “Little Crappy Ship,” because they did not live up to the expectations of the rank-and-file who had to use them.

Even When the Navy Tried to Do The Right Thing, Politics Won Out
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Now wait... why would we be going to war with China?
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How many accidents lead to war? Chinese aggressive actions with their jets and ships or a miscalculation could trigger a conflict. Also, you have Biden saying multiple times that we will protect Taiwan.
 
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Franklin Pierce said:
Even When the Navy Tried to Do The Right Thing, Politics Won Out

6f12688c-59a9-4dcf-8dcd-4d5baef35905-1052x615.jpg


Defense acquisition takes a lot of flak, most of it entirely deserved.

The services, being at heart big government bureaucracies, compete with each other for resources, capabilities and influence – impact on overall spending be damned. They could not survive an audit, and billions of dollars seem to slip into the ether each year.


They protect their interests, try not to let any funding already acquired not be used to its fullest and jealously guard their turf.

But every once in a while, the services do it right. They see a program that doesn’t measure up, and they make the tough decision to get rid of it. They forgo a capability, opt for efficiency and call for going back to the drawing board.

The Navy has made this difficult decision with the Freedom Class Littoral Combat Ship. These are small and fast ships – they can go up to 50 miles per hour – designed to operate in shallow water near shorelines against asymmetric threats such as the gun boats used by Iran.

But the ships have never worked as planned. It took 12 years longer than expected to produce the first ships, and they came in at more than $500 million per unit – more than twice their estimated cost of $220 million. Navy officers referred to them as the “Little Crappy Ship,” because they did not live up to the expectations of the rank-and-file who had to use them.

Even When the Navy Tried to Do The Right Thing, Politics Won Out
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Wow..what a waste
 
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Orangeburst said:
Wow..what a waste
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Kill production today. Build the new Frigate in greater numbers.

Can we sell off the others? Can we give them to Taiwan? Singapore? Thailand?

If not -
Scrap the stealth coatings
Slow them down, so they actually run
Load them up with strike missiles
Deploy them as missile boats
 
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I play golf every week at Mayport Naval Station Jacksonville.
They have about half a dozen of these LCS’s based there.
I am often paired up with crew members of those ships.
From Chief Engineering Officers down to Seaman Boatswain Mates,
they HATE them. Constant breakdowns. They tell me that on most short
trips they take a tug boat with them so they will be able to be towed
back to base.
 
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TennEddie said:
I play golf every week at Mayport Naval Station Jacksonville.
They have about half a dozen of these LCS’s based there.
I am often paired up with crew members of those ships.
From Chief Engineering Officers down to Seaman Boatswain Mates,
they HATE them. Constant breakdowns. They tell me that on most short
trips they take a tug boat with them so they will be able to be towed
back to base.
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The last Freedom variant they launched damn near sunk a tugboat.
 
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The Navy has finally realized that the Arleigh Burke DDG ‘s
( guided missile destroyers ) are some of the best war ships
ever built, so they-are upgrading them with the newest electronics
and weapon systems. Look up The Sullivans DDG 68 to see one.

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