U.S. Navy Not Fit For War

[85SugarVol]

Navy submarine equipped with Trident nukes suffers huge malfunction

The Vanguard class sub had been carrying 140 crew members when its depth gauge suddenly failed while on a mission in the Atlantic.

www.dailymail.co.uk

That ain’t good. Wonder how deep she got.

 

[Orangeburst]

That ain’t good. Wonder how deep she got.

Obviously not as deep as Titan

 

[85SugarVol]

Obviously not as deep as Titan

Lol. I left that one hanging, and you crushed it.

 

[Franklin Pierce]

Video shows Marines in massive Brawl outside Austin, Texas, Bar after a woman's cell phone was taken​

Video posted to social media shows the moment a nasty fight broke out between a group of uniformed Marines and civilians outside a Texas nightclub over the weekend.

The altercation seems to start when one woman grabs a phone out of the hands of another and a Marine tries to intervene.

Then, a man in a white long-sleeve shirt attempts to throw a punch at a different Marine and misses, as a group of his fellow military men rush to his defense.

While some Marines try to separate the men as they curse at each other, tensions seem to escalate and an all-out brawl begins.



Video shows the moment a nasty fight broke out between a group of uniformed Marines and civilians outside an Austin nightclub



VIDEO:

Uniformed marines get into street brawl on Austin's Sixth street

Footage shows a group of Marines and civilians break out into a melee in front of an Austin nightclub. Several blows are exchanged before police break up the fight.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[Grand Vol]

Lol. I left that one hanging, and you crushed it.

I see what you did there...

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

The altercation seems to start when one woman grabs a phone out of the hands of another and a Marine tries to intervene.

Then, a man in a white long-sleeve shirt attempts to throw a punch at a different Marine and misses, as a group of his fellow military men rush to his defense.

You "men"/"patriots" in 2023 need to realize that you cannot interject yourselves in these confrontations. Let women resolve their own issues. Give them the equality they want and deserve.

 

[85SugarVol]

You "men"/"patriots" in 2023 need to realize that you cannot interject yourselves in these confrontations. Let women resolve their own issues. Give them the equality they want and deserve.

Lol fat girl snatched the phone right out of skinny girl’s hand and tossed it. Then her entourage started the fight.

 

[VolFaninFla]

Wild video shows Marines brawling with civilians on Austin, Texas street

 

[jp1]

Video was pretty benign. Looked like it was over pretty quickly.

 

[hog88]

Video was pretty benign. Looked like it was over pretty quickly.

Pretty sad that they can’t even do a decent bar brawl anymore.

 

[Grand Vol]

Some places aren't even trying to hide their political feelings...

Air Force base warns service members to avoid 'patriot' rally with speaker from pro-Trump group

Leaders at Minot Air Air Force Base sent a text message that warned airmen about the dangers of being near a conservative rally that featured a speaker from a pro-Trump group.

www.foxnews.com

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

US Navy Spy Plane Overshoots Runway Into Waters Off Hawaii

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

 

[Grand Vol]

US Navy Spy Plane Overshoots Runway Into Waters Off Hawaii

Not really a "spy" plane.

 

[tntar heel]

Not really a "spy" plane.

Well it is a navy recon plane.... he was trying to check the bottom of the ocean.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Not really a "spy" plane.

Well it is a navy recon plane.... he was trying to check the bottom of the ocean.

What does "recon" mean?

 

[Grand Vol]

What does "recon" mean?

Not that kind of recon. Basically, it's a submarine hunter with sea search and surveillance capabilities.

Recon doesn't always mean spy.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Not that kind of recon. Basically, it's a submarine hunter with sea search and surveillance capabilities.

Who's submarines are we looking for? How many countries have submarines that we would need to be concerned about? Are they looking for Mexican submarines? Angolan submarines? What about those pesky Omanis? If that is the case, then the "spy" label could probably (probably) be challenged a bit.

Recon doesn't always mean spy.

Not always. But it does sometimes, right? Is the headline deceitful?

 

[LouderVol]

Who's submarines are we looking for? How many countries have submarines that we would need to be concerned about? Are they looking for Mexican submarines? Angolan submarines? What about those pesky Omanis? If that is the case, then the "spy" label could probably (probably) be challenged a bit.


Not always. But it does sometimes, right? Is the headline deceitful?

spying would imply a good bit more stealth or trickery/deception.

Nothing of the sort with those planes. They don't go fast or high at all like a U2 spy plane, its about as stealthy as a C-130. its not disguised as a civilian aircraft, I am pretty sure you can track their movements online, so I don't think they are classified in any manner. doesn't operate over foreign territory except by permission, and typically only works in non-hostile conditions.

I would call it more hunting/patrolling than "spying". not really sure why its relevant to the storyline except for sensationalism.

 

[Grand Vol]

Who's submarines are we looking for? How many countries have submarines that we would need to be concerned about? Are they looking for Mexican submarines? Angolan submarines? What about those pesky Omanis? If that is the case, then the "spy" label could probably (probably) be challenged a bit.


Not always. But it does sometimes, right? Is the headline deceitful?

The headline is misleading, yes.

Maritime patrol aircraft - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Boeing P-8 Poseidon - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

It can operate in ISR roles, but typically it's not the same as one might consider "spy" planes. The article title makes it sound very ominous like it's the only job it has.

As much as I detest Boeing on so many levels, the P-8 is actually a pretty decent platform.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

spying would imply a good bit more stealth or trickery/deception.

C'mon... who determinbes where this gray line is? If you are looking for submarines, how is that any different than a U-2 looking for bases on the surface? Stop splitting hairs.

Nothing of the sort with those planes. They don't go fast or high at all like a U2 spy plane, its about as stealthy as a C-130.

Who said anything about having to be stealthy in order to now qualify to be a spy plane? Who makes these rules?

I would call it more hunting/patrolling than "spying".

Splitting hairs/euphormisms... The headine was not incorrect in calling it a spy plane. Maybe the word "spy" adds an enhancement to most people's perception... but it is what it is. It is performing recon on Mexican and Angolan submarines.

 

[Grand Vol]

Ras, you realize sub hunting has been around nearly 100 years, right?

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

The headline is misleading, yes.

It can operate in ISR roles, but typically it's not the same as one might consider "spy" planes. The article title makes it sound very ominous like it's the only job it has.

C'mon... you're better than this. You are more disturbed at the headline and want to nitpick it than the actual event in question. Recon or spy whatever... now we are arguing balls and strikes on something that distracts from the actual real issue.

As much as I detest Boeing on so many levels, the P-8 is actually a pretty decent platform.

No one (in this particular event) is placing blame on Boeing.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Ras, you realize sub hunting has been around nearly 100 years, right?

So?

Would it rally make you feel better if the headline said "recon" instead of "spy"? Is this what you are bent out of shape about?

 

[Grand Vol]

So?

Would it rally make you feel better if the headline said "recon" instead of "spy"? Is this what you are bent out of shape about?

You really think using the word spy isn't misleading?

You're better than this.