U.S. serviceman opens fire on Afghan civilians

#78
#78
You must seek out and destory your enemy, wherever he may be. Or risk fighting battles on your own soil.

If you think we can sit back and only protect our borders and be safe. I want to live in your world. I'm not saying that war is the answer to our problems, nor should it be a first or second option. BUT, sometimes people need to die and somebody has to did it.
 
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#82
#82
This is the sort of thing that erases all the goodwill we establish. This is why no matter what we do, we are only assuring that we get more blowback from terrorists in the future. This is what they use for recruitment.
 
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7thgroupvolfan said:
You must seek out and destory your enemy, wherever he may be. Or risk fighting battles on your own soil.

If you think we can sit back and only protect our borders and be safe. I want to live in your world. I'm not saying that war is the answer to our problems, nor should it be a first or second option. BUT, sometimes people need to die and somebody has to did it.
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Maybe we won't be "safe" but I don't think we are making ourselves any safer now with a financially unfeasible policy. Honestly, what is the worst that could happen if we did sit on our borders? We have the greatest military might in the world, not to mention nukes, a strategically beneficial location, etc.

I don't think any nation is attacking us if we stick to our borders. Why in the hell would they?
 
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#86
nbakerld said:
This is the sort of thing that erases all the goodwill we establish. This is why no matter what we do, we are only assuring that we get more blowback from terrorists in the future. This is what they use for recruitment.
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keys to gaining goodwill in Afghanistan:

1) legalize opiates in USA;
2) become chief importer of Afghan opiates
 
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#87
OrangeEmpire said:
Why in the world wouldnt we stop a threat before it got to our border?
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Who is advocating that we do not? When has there been a legitimate threat to our border since becoming the world's super power? Is that what Korea was about? Vietnam? Iraq?
 
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#88
nbakerld said:
Who is advocating that we do not? When has there been a legitimate threat to our border since becoming the world's super power? Is that what Korea was about? Vietnam? Iraq?
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Thought we were talking about terror plots?

There have been 114 thrawted since 9/11 inside our borders.

Who knows how many outside.
 
#91
#91
It was so much less confusing when Rambo had a clear enemy in the Russians and needed Bin Laden's help to save his former leader and friend.
 
#92
#92
OrangeEmpire said:
Thought we were talking about terror plots?

There have been 114 thrawted since 9/11 inside our borders.

Who knows how many outside.
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Before and after 9/11 the odds that you'd be killed by foreign terrorists were the about the same as getting struck by lightning.
 
#95
#95
NEOCON said:
so you're telling me there's a chance?
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Haha.

There is always that chance. Why don't we spend trillions to prevent deaths from lightning? Terrorists are a lot scarier*, but probably equally impossible to combat effectively. You can thwart terror plots, but if you're creating new cells in the process, you aren't doing yourself any favors. The war on terror just gets bigger, and bigger, and less sustainable.

*Which probably explains why the public is OK with going bankrupt fighting it.
 
#96
#96
It's the war on drugs part 2.

we could protect the borders and lock them down but we don't.

we don't fix the problems ever.
 
#98
#98
my name is a joke.

i do not think you can help a country unless the majority of people in it want help and have a clear idea of how they would like to change the country. you can not help a country that has split factions that are already at war with each other.

i am for a very strong national defense, protecting our trade routes, and trade, and our homeland, but I am very much against nation building. Nation building is a huge burden on the tax payer and takes a trained soldiers who is taught to kill and places them in a situation that is not designed for them. It also takes away a clear motive for why the soldier is there and causes doubt to set in over the need for the mission at all.

but on the flip side of that, I am all for bombing the crap out of someone who attacks us.
 
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#99
7thgroupvolfan said:
You must seek out and destory your enemy, wherever he may be. Or risk fighting battles on your own soil.

If you think we can sit back and only protect our borders and be safe. I want to live in your world. I'm not saying that war is the answer to our problems, nor should it be a first or second option. BUT, sometimes people need to die and somebody has to did it.
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Good post.
 
#100
#100
fighting a war and nation building are not the same thing and people need to understand this.

we need to learn to walk away when the smoke is still in the skies and say job well done to our troops.

not say good job blowing that building up now lets stick around and help them build a new one and teach them democracy.
 
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