Uniform/Helmet/Shoe design thread (merged)

#526
#526
VolsSportsFan said:
They're black. I don't understand how this is inspired or new or cutting edge, it's basically a black version of their regular uniform.

I get the alternate uniform talk, but for the life of me I can't understand why so many teams are getting a black jersey. How can it be cool or unique when about half the teams in FBS at least have done the same freakin' thing?
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because it looks cool. thats all that matters. its not a top what the last team did situation. its not a contest to be cutting edge. its designing a uniform that your team loves and is proud to wear.
 
#530
#530
WallyBalls said:
Nebraska? The Blackshirts?

Its not black just to be black.
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The whole team is not nicknamed the Blackshirts.

And had they pulled these out about 15 years ago when the first "black alternates" started happening, I might agree, but now that they are jumping on the bandwagon this late in the game, I still call it BFBS.
 
#531
#531
orange parmejohn said:
because it looks cool. thats all that matters. its not a top what the last team did situation. its not a contest to be cutting edge. its designing a uniform that your team loves and is proud to wear.
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So they aren't proud to wear the traditional uniform? They don't love what the program has loved for decades?

You know what looks cool? The scoreboard after you win.
 
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#532
#532
VolsSportsFan said:
So they aren't proud to wear the traditional uniform? They don't love what the program has loved for decades?

You know what looks cool? The scoreboard after you win.
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come on now brother. you cant just make up an untrue statement like that and challenge me to defelnd it. players love alternate uniforms. its a fact. they asked Dooley for them. Eric Berry asked Kiffin for them.
 
#533
#533
orange parmejohn said:
come on now brother. you cant just make up an untrue statement like that and challenge me to defelnd it. players love alternate uniforms. its a fact. they asked Dooley for them. Eric Berry asked Kiffin for them.
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DeerPark12 provided the following clarification regarding the decision to wear black jerseys prior to the 2009 South Carolina game in post No. 11,755 of the original uniform thread (http://www.volnation.com/forum/tenn...form-helmet-design-discussion-merged-784.html, p. 784):

“Sure did, and I told everyone here why. Here's the short version:

Kiffin did that without the permission or approval of Hamilton or anyone at UT. I found out the day before from someone at the local company that did them (who thought I already knew about it), and posted here the day of the game that it was going to happen.

The story of players going to Hamilton the week before was pretty much completely false. They had asked him earlier in the year and he had said no. Kiffin ordered them, paid for them, and showed them to Hamilton Friday when they arrived, after showing the captains. Hamilton told him they would not be permitted to wear them. Kiffin told him they were going to be worn and that was the end of the story. Hamilton caved. The $5300 cost of the jerseys was docked from Kiffin's next check.”

As for your assertion that black jerseys are "cool," you are certainly entitled to that opinion, but you may rest assured that a lot of us simply find them boring, particularly if they are matched with black uniform pants. Personally I simply do not understand the almost Pavlovian response that black jerseys evoke from so many kids, but that is neither here nor there.
 
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#534
Vol Photos got a sneak peek at some "new gear" for this fall. I assume it's a uniform piece because they mentioned the "uniform swag" Twitter account. This is the only photo:
 

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#535
#535
My apologies if this has been posted many times already. But, if another throwback uniform is seriously considered, seems like the 1903 version would be an interesting option.

Instead of tan tan pants and matching patches on the shoulders/forearms, UT could simply go with white and use today's helmet design.

Another option would be to go with the more historical tan and adopt that same color for the helmet on the helmet (with the orange "T"). Or, simply go with a helmet design from a different period, such as orange with the white stripes.

Several alternatives that would honor the past while giving the Vols a different look that could appeal to a new generation.
 
#536
#536
Here is the link to an article that is certain to stir debate between partisans on both sides of the traditionalist vs. alternative uniform divide: Ranking College Football's Top 25 Uniforms in 2013 | AthlonSports.com.

As a staunch Tennessee loyalist and traditionalist, I adamantly disagree with their ranking of our uniforms (20th); the fact that it is authored by someone who works for a company headquartered in Nashville, however, may have something to do with it. I certainly don’t consider the bland uniforms of Penn State to be the best in college football as this author does. Nevertheless, a number of general observations are made in this article with which I wholeheartedly agree. With respect to our uniforms, the author states:

“The color is gaudy for sure but what makes Tennessee's uniforms stylish are their simplicity. The two-tone white and orange combination has classically survived decades of uniform tweaks. No matter how many bad alternates crop up (like these ugly duds [with a link provided to the jerseys worn for the 2009 South Carolina game]), the Vols always return to their simple home orange tops and traditional white pants (shown). With the addition of the new-er orange pants, this get-up has only gotten better.”

With respect to Georgia’s uniform, the author states: “The black and red stripes on the pants add the perfect amount of color and the ordinary and classic tops and helmets have worked for decades. And when it comes to black alternates, a team with black in its primary color scheme can always pull it off better than those who have to force it (looking at you Tennessee, Arkansas, Kentucky, Texas A&M and Mississippi State).”

In comments pertaining to Alabama’s uniforms, he observes that “Programs like Texas, Oklahoma, Penn State and Alabama should never change their simple, classic and traditional style.” He observes, similarly, with regard to Oklahoma that “The Crimson and the Cream are a perfect example of an old-school uniform with no frills, quirky piping or silly helmets. Some teams should never go down the Oregon/Maryland path of dressing and the Sooners are one of them.”

The same fundamental message is repeated with respect to Nebraska: “The Huskers' road uniforms might be the best in the nation. The helmet will never go out of style and it hasn't been changed in what seems like a century.” As for Michigan, “The Maize and Blue color combination has been wildly popular for decades and the no-frills style will never be changed (hopefully). These uniforms stand out as some of the best in the history of the game and it's great that a school holds on to its tradition by keeping it simple.”

The proverbial bottom line is something that bleedorange0037 and I, among others, have made repeatedly: Traditional powers--a category that includes Tennessee, regardless of what we have endured the last five years--possess deeply entrenched identities and strong brand recognition. They do not need to constantly reinvent themselves stylistically for the sake of enhancing their profile.
 
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Volosaurus rex said:
Here is the link to an article that is certain to stir debate between partisans on both sides of the traditionalist vs. alternative uniform divide: Ranking College Football's Top 25 Uniforms in 2013 | AthlonSports.com.

As a staunch Tennessee loyalist and traditionalist, I adamantly disagree with their ranking of our uniforms (20th); the fact that it is authored by someone who works for a company headquartered in Nashville, however, may have something to do with it. I certainly don’t consider the bland uniforms of Penn State to be the best in college football as this author does. Nevertheless, a number of general observations are made in this article with which I wholeheartedly agree. With respect to our uniforms, the author states:

“The color is gaudy for sure but what makes Tennessee's uniforms stylish are their simplicity. The two-tone white and orange combination has classically survived decades of uniform tweaks. No matter how many bad alternates crop up (like these ugly duds [with a link provided to the jerseys worn for the 2009 South Carolina game]), the Vols always return to their simple home orange tops and traditional white pants (shown). With the addition of the new-er orange pants, this get-up has only gotten better.”

With respect to Georgia’s uniform, the author states: “The black and red stripes on the pants add the perfect amount of color and the ordinary and classic tops and helmets have worked for decades. And when it comes to black alternates, a team with black in its primary color scheme can always pull it off better than those who have to force it (looking at you Tennessee, Arkansas, Kentucky, Texas A&M and Mississippi State).”

In comments pertaining to Alabama’s uniforms, he observes that “Programs like Texas, Oklahoma, Penn State and Alabama should never change their simple, classic and traditional style.” He observes, similarly, with regard to Oklahoma that “The Crimson and the Cream are a perfect example of an old-school uniform with no frills, quirky piping or silly helmets. Some teams should never go down the Oregon/Maryland path of dressing and the Sooners are one of them.”

The same fundamental message is repeated with respect to Nebraska: “The Huskers' road uniforms might be the best in the nation. The helmet will never go out of style and it hasn't been changed in what seems like a century.” As for Michigan, “The Maize and Blue color combination has been wildly popular for decades and the no-frills style will never be changed (hopefully). These uniforms stand out as some of the best in the history of the game and it's great that a school holds on to its tradition by keeping it simple.”

The proverbial bottom line is something that bleedorange0037 and I, among others, have made repeatedly: Traditional powers--a category that includes Tennessee, regardless of what we have endured the last five years--possess deeply entrenched identities and strong brand recognition. They do not need to constantly reinvent themselves stylistically for the sake of enhancing their profile.
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I agree with most of this comment, in principle, however the fact is Nebraska, and more often, Michigan, HAS changed things up recently with a variety of alternates, none of which I've liked.
 
#539
#539
alternate uniforms would be 1 game a year. that would do absolutely no harm to the UT brand or tradition. what it will do is generate more revenue in sales and the players like them, the guys that you know, give their all for Tennessee every day.
 
#540
#540
I'd like to see 1 Blackout game a year and 1 all orange game a year. You would have to imagine the black techfit jerseys would look badass. Not cheap lookin like UT wore vs USC. I would even go with black pants this time. Then maybe add in an orange & black checkerboard under shirt, or just orange & white like we wore at Arkansas... Let's freakin go.
 
#541
#541
And I'm not even a big fan of black. I would like to see UT use as little of black possible when it comes to athletics (especially baseball). But 1 Blackout football game a year....c'mon.
 
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#543
#543
SkidsisVFL said:
Vol Photos got a sneak peek at some "new gear" for this fall. I assume it's a uniform piece because they mentioned the "uniform swag" Twitter account. This is the only photo:
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There are going to be custom color jobs just for Tennessee, but you see what the shoes will look like:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROPpzvPXGpY[/youtube]

(BTW, that’s the single wing for all your Neylandites)

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wglWxQv5c3M[/youtube]
 
#544
#544
DeerPark12 said:
This is the new regular TechFit pattern, so expect all the Adidas schools to look like this.

They have the photo exposure turned WAY up to highlight the pattern, in person it's barely noticeable.
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Does the pattern change or does the school pick it? The ones on the Nebraska uniforms (up there) are really obvious. And ugly.
 
#545
#545
d3ft punk said:
Does the pattern change or does the school pick it? The ones on the Nebraska uniforms (up there) are really obvious. And ugly.
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No, it's a standard pattern that uses a different material to increase flexibility and breathability in certain places.

Again, in the promo shots they have the contrast turned way up. You barely noticed the pattern in the previous TechFit jerseys, these will be the same when they're on field.
 
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