Urban Myth Countdown

#76
#76
Good read NC, I really like what Meyer is doing off the field, much better than our SEC counterparts, lets hope he does great on the field as well.
 
#77
#77
I hate to interupt you two, but I thought that I might need to remind you both that this is still a Tennessee board... ;)
 
#78
#78
Originally posted by Orangewhiteblood@Jul 24, 2005 3:34 PM
I hate to interupt you two, but I thought that I might need to remind you both that this is still a Tennessee board... ;)
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Thats why I didnt start a new thread about it. ;)
 
#79
#79
Originally posted by Orangewhiteblood@Jul 24, 2005 1:34 PM
I hate to interupt you two, but I thought that I might need to remind you both that this is still a Tennessee board... ;)
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Yes, the orange and white colors along with "VolNation" plastered on top of the page was only a small indication.
 
#80
#80
Originally posted by GatorVille@Jul 24, 2005 3:38 PM
Yes, the orange and white colors along with "VolNation" plastered on top of the page was only a small indication.
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I'm just trying to help you our man, since you seem lost most of the time. :peace2:
 
#83
#83
Hows that, because i doont know anything about a UT-Bama case, and openly admit to it, without saying anything?


Come on 67, humor me once again.
 
#85
#85
Once again, you ignore the topic at hand and say something stupid. Thank you 67, I, once again, am laughing at you.
 
#87
#87
Maybe we can do that after 67 finishes his class on making logical thoughts, and putting them down on paper (or in this instance, a computer)
 
#89
#89
Guys...you are taking this too personal...attack the post and not the poster...then there is no reason anyone should be banned. :peace:
 
#90
#90
Yeah, thats me- a gator punk.

Im done with you 67, youre not worth my time. Youre just mad. Dont worry youll get over it.

Im taking the high road in this, since i know you never will.
 
#91
#91
Claim: The personalities of the dwarf characters in Disney's animated film version of Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs represent the seven stages of cocaine addiction.

Example: We had important jobs on what was then the largest private construction project in the world [i.e., Walt Disney World], and many of us blew off steam after work most days. One night I broke up a fight at Horne's between one of my guys and a construction worker. The construction guy took off, and I asked my guy what the problem was.
He said the construction worker said that Walt Disney had been a cocaine addict. He said the proof was that Walt Disney had invented Snow White and the Seven Dwarves [sic]. Snow White was cocaine, and the seven dwarves were the symptoms of various stages of cocaine addiction: Grumpy, Sleepy, Grouchy [sic], Dopey, Sneezy, Happy, and so forth.3

Origins: Our fascination for associating wholesome, innocent icons of popular culture with hidden depravities and unsavory backgrounds seemingly knows no bounds. Thus we have tales that nature-loving pop singer John Denver was a Vietnam-era sniper, that genial children's TV host Fred Rogers served as a Green Beret, that the actor who portrayed geeky Paul Pfeiffer on TV's popular The Wonder Years grew up to become shock rocker Marilyn Manson, and that the host of Nickelodeon's preschooler favorite Blue's Clues died of a drug overdose.

As the epitomical producer of popular children's fare, Disney comes in for more than its fair share of such rumors: scandalous tales about both Walt Disney himself (e.g., that he was booted out of the military, that he was a Nazi sympathizer, that he was an illegitimate child) and many of the films produced by the company he founded.

A common motif among Disney legends is the claim that various Disney animated films were drug-inspired; that Disney and his band of animators were users of hallucinogens such as LSD, and their experiences with drugs formed the basis for such fare as the fantasy world of Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs, the colorful visual interpretation of musical themes in Fantasia, and the surreal psychedelia of Alice in Wonderland.

On a literal level, not much can be said to address these rumors other than to cite a litany of negative evidence. Walt Disney and his principal animators are well-known figures about whom much has been written, and no one who knew or worked with them claimed (or even suggested) that they partook of recreational drugs. And although drug abuse was enough of a social concern to prompt didactic scare films such as Reefer Madness and The Cocaine Fiends back in the 1930s, the "drug" of choice in Walt Disney's era was far more likely to have been alcohol than anything else. (Recall that the hallucinatory "Pink Elephants on Parade" sequence in 1941's Dumbo is triggered when the diminutive pachyderm inadvertently imbibes a tubful of champagne.) As for LSD, it wasn't even brought to the USA until 1949, too late to have been the driving force behind Disney's classic animated films (although alternative hallucinogens such as mescaline were certainly obtainable.) Of the notion that the imagination displayed in Disney's animated films was drug-induced, animator Art Babbitt, who drew the dancing mushrooms in "The Nutcracker Suite" portion of Fantasia, said: "Yes, it is true. I myself was addicted to Ex-lax and Feenamint."

Drug rumors were undoubtedly fueled because Fantasia and Alice in Wonderland received mixed reviews upon their initial releases, and neither was much of a financial success until their re-releases (and availability as rental films) in the early 1970s drew crowds of college students who found the films' melding of color, light, music, and imagery made them ideal psychedelic "head" flicks. So much so, in fact, that Disney's marketing began to pitch these films to those audiences...

. . . after [Fantasia's] 1969 rerelease proved a cult hit among college-age kids looking for a hallucinogenic experience, conservative groups began picketing movie theaters for screening Disney's animated "drug fantasies." Hippie-era moviegoers liked to sit in the front row, even on top of each other, smoking pot and offering advice to Mickey.
The company asked the theaters to promote the film not as typical Disney fare, but "now you sell Fantasia as you did Easy Rider. Hip youngsters come to see it as a special kind of trip."

Disney didn't exactly discourage the connotation. Psychedelic posters and other ad materials featuring Chernobog and the dancing mushrooms called it "The Ultimate Experience," while the promotional kit quoted one underground review: "Disney's Fantasia: A Head Classic: Representation of sound as color does resemble tripping on STD, LSD, THC and various other letters of the alphabet."

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Long afterwards, fans continued to ask the animators if they were "on something" when they made [Alice in Wonderland]. It's not such an odd question, considering that all the things in the book and movie that suggest drugs: Alice ingests potions, wafers and mushrooms that change her size or alter her consciousness, her perspective constantly changes, she loses track of time, space and her own identity. There's the hookah-smoking caterpillar. In fact, the entire story, a dream framed by the "real world," might be seen as a hallucination or trip.
So, it wasn't surprising that in 1971 Alice in Wonderland was the top renting 16mm film in every college town across the country, playing to capacity crowds in heavy smoke-filled fraternity houses, university theaters, discos and private homes, where it sometimes ran over and over again for an entire weekend.

After the smash cult revival of Fantasia, Disney withdrew the 16mm prints of Alice and targeted a 1974 theater rerelease. The studio prepared ads with copy such as "Down the rabbit hole and through the talking door lies a world where vibrant colors merge into shapes of fantasy, and music radiates from flowers," "Nine out of ten Dormice recommend Walt Disney's Alice in Wonderland for visual euphoria and good, clean nonsense," and "Should you see it? Go ask Alice," a reference to Jefferson Airplane's song "White Rabbit."1

Also of significance is that all the plot aspects of Alice in Wonderland that "suggest drugs" were present in Lewis Carroll's original work; Disney merely adapted them for the screen.

As for the original example, Walt Disney didn't "invent" Snow White, of course -- the film was based on the European fairy tale collected by the Grimm brothers over a century earlier. Disney did flesh the story out to feature film length, though, and he was the one who created names and distinctive personalities for each of the seven dwarfs. But the suggestion that the dwarfs' names correspond (intentionally or otherwise) to the symptoms of various stages of cocaine addiction is bunk. Cocaine addiction might be considered to have identifiable stages, but no standard set of physical symptoms accompanies each stage. Many types of drug abuse (and physical or mental illnesses) can produce symptoms such as changes in sleep/wake patterns (sleepy), mood swings (happy, grumpy), alteration of personality (dopey, bashful), and allergies (sneezy) -- eventually necessitating a trip to the doc.

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#93
#93
Overrated.

Undermanned.

Outclassed.

Those are three EASy ones that come to mind.

The SEC isn't the MWC or the WAC or Conf. USA, or the Independants, or any other weak conference that Meyer has his "expierence" in. He'll find that out first hand in 54 days, and so will you.
 
#95
#95
Originally posted by BeltwayVol@Jul 25, 2005 5:03 PM
The SEC isn't the MWC or the WAC or Conf. USA, or the Independants, or any other weak conference that Meyer has his "expierence" in.  He'll find that out first hand in 54 days, and so will you.
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Everyone knows the SEC is always one of the best conferences in the land...but you do realize that when he coached BG and Utah he coached with the same talent level of that conference...as he will in the SEC with UF. :devilsmoke: Game 3 cant get here fast enough! :cool:
 
#96
#96
NC, I understand that the TOP talent of the MWC, has NOTHING on the mid or top tier teams of the SEC, I know you, and I know you don't REALLY believe that either. You know that there will be a learning curve. You are smart enough to understand that. I'm not saying that he is the worst coach in college football, and I am not saying he doesnt have some talent. However, he HAS to prove himself against QUALITY competition. He HAS to show that he can make the calls to beat coaches the caliber of Fulmer, Richt, Spurrier, and Miles.
 
#97
#97
Originally posted by BeltwayVol@Jul 25, 2005 7:09 PM
NC, I understand that the TOP talent of the MWC, has NOTHING on the mid or top tier teams of the SEC, I know you, and I know you don't REALLY believe that either.  You know that there will be a learning curve.  You are smart enough to understand that.  I'm not saying that he is the worst coach in college football, and I am not saying he doesnt have some talent.  However, he HAS to prove himself against QUALITY competition.  He HAS to show that he can make the calls to beat coaches the caliber of Fulmer, Richt, Spurrier, and Miles.
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He is not playing the SEC with MWC talent. He is playing SEC with SEC talent.
 
#98
#98
Youre right beltway, he does have to prove himself. But what youre saying is you dont think he will. Milo is right as well, its not like hes playing powerhouses with MWC tallent, hes fighting fire with fire and has one of the most tallented teams in the country to use.
 
#99
#99
"most talented teams in the country"

Maybe that is where we differ. A team that was 8-5 the last three years does not deserve to be called "one of the most talented teams in the country". I'm sorry, I know you think the world of your quarterback that promised 4 National Titles, but has yet to even beat Tennessee. I know you think that your defense is paramount, but the fact is, it isn't. Its true he has better than MWC talent, but he still only has "third in the SEC East" talent, and he should be very happy that Spurrier's cupboard is so bare, and that UGA lost the David's, their WR core, and Odell. The problem for Urban is, while those teams were losing talent, Tennessee has kept almost all of it's and gained a handfull of impact Freshmen. That is the difference I see between UF and UT, and it's more than likely not going to change between now and Sept 17.
 
#100
#100
Claim: Eating turkey makes people drowsy.

Status: False.

Origins: Whenever my husband and I find our cats collapsed in a heap on the bed, emitting loud kitty snores, we look to one another and say, "Someone must have slipped them some turkey." As widespread lore has it, something in turkey induces sleepiness, making those who partake of the bird unusually drowsy.

In this instance, lore almost intersects with science. Turkey does contain tryptophan, an amino acid which is a natural sedative. But tryptophan doesn't act on the brain unless it is taken on an empty stomach with no protein present, and the amount gobbled even during a holiday feast is generally too small to have an appreciable effect. That lazy, lethargic feeling so many are overcome by at the conclusion of a festive season meal is most likely due to the combination of drinking alcohol and overeating a carbohydrate-rich repast.

Those who still feel wary of turkey's purported sleep-inducing properties should find solace in the knowledge that many items we eat contain tryptophan. Milk, beef, and beans are among the foodstuffs which house this amino acid, and experts say chicken has higher levels of tryptophan than turkey does. If tryptophan were truly the sandman's henchman, we'd be falling asleep at the wheel on our way home from KFC.

Yet tryptophan may not be wholly innocuous. During the 1980s L-tryptophan was dispensed over the counter as a popular dietary supplement which buyers used for insomnia, appetite control, depression, premenstrual syndrome, stress reduction and other problems. But in 1989 the FDA recalled these supplements and urged the public to stop taking them immediately after they established a link between dietary supplements containing L-tryptophan and that year's mysterious outbreak of eosinophilia-myalgia syndrome (a painful blood disorder which can cause high fever, rash, weakness and shortness of breath, among other symptoms) in the United States. The EMS epidemic ultimately struck more than 1,500 people, killing at least 37.

The true culprit in that outbreak was never pinned down. At one point the disease appeared to be spurred only by the L-tryptophan supplements made by one particular company, leading to an "impurities gained during the manufacturing process" hypothesis. Yet this theory, though promising, did not adequately explain all instances of the disease. As to where things now stand, according to the FDA:

Based on the scientific evidence that is available at the present time, we cannot determine with certainty that the occurrence of EMS in susceptible persons consuming L-tryptophan supplements derives from the content of L-tryptophan, an impurity contained in the L-tryptophan, or a combination of the two in association with other, as yet unknown, external factors.

The FDA does not currently prohibit the marketing of L-tryptophan.
People still feeling anxious about the prospect of tearing into a drumstick should consider that those who took the dietary supplement were, on average, ingesting 1,000 to 2,000 milligrams of L-tryptophan daily. Four ounces of turkey contain only about 350 milligrams of tryptophan, and (unlike people on dietary supplements, who take them every day) most folks don't ingest that much turkey every day of the week.

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