US may have killed Quds Force Commander Qasem Soleimani

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lawgator1 said:
Its getting worse.




He is drifting back and forth between preventing an imminent attack, and retribution for prior attacks.

I mean, if the guy was triggering a plan to blow up an embassy, I think anyone would be hard pressed to argue with taking him out. But then it seems to fall back on prior acts.

So which is it?
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Who cares? Dude was directly or indirectly responsible for lots of deaths and loathed 'murica, the world is better off without him. I hate trump as much as the next guy, but this is a net win for the U.S. - we killed Iran's #2 and they blew up a couple of storage sheds. On at least this, Trump gets a nod.
 
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0nelilreb said:
It has nothing to do with the terrorist . Ask Luther , he will tell you it’s always about getting rid of Trump with any legal means available to them . That’s why they have to screech about everything Trump does even if it makes them look like they are supporting a dead terrorist and a terrorist state .
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That's certainly always an objective, but there are always ongoing multiple objectives.
If there was an imminent threat as Trump has continually stated as the reason, give the evidence.
Hell, his own party is even saying the meeting and explanations are a farce.
Oh yea, I almost forgot, those guys are human scum.
 
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Septic said:
Who cares? Dude was directly or indirectly responsible for lots of deaths and loathed 'murica, the world is better off without him. I hate trump as much as the next guy, but this is a net win for the U.S. - we killed Iran's #2 and they blew up a couple of storage sheds. On at least this, Trump gets a nod.
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To this point, but only time will tell.
It may turn out that it has cost the lives of 176 innocent people already.
 
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luthervol said:
And there you have it folks.
Trumpers don't GAF why. Trumpers don't GAF if Trump is lying to them while circumventing constitutional safeguards.
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Did Obama ask the house and senate to debate the pros and cons of dropping the Navy's finest on Bin Laden's ass? Sometimes when you have actionable intelligence, you do what must be done, chop-chop. Like it or not, any president could have the tough job of making these decisions on the fly with minimal consultation. It's easy to monday morning quarterback these things, but if he had a whiff that American lives were at risk and could curtail it, it's his duty.
 
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lawgator1 said:
So you are saying Trump has been lying this whole time about the imminent attacks as justification to do it, and to do it now? Trump is lying?

Are you saying Trump is lying?

Let's be clear. Is Trump lying about this?
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Salami is responsible for killing Americans. Truth.

Considering that, none of your gibberish is relevant.
 
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Septic said:
Did Obama ask the house and senate to debate the pros and cons of dropping the Navy's finest on Bin Laden's ass? Sometimes when you have actionable intelligence, you do what must be done, chop-chop. Like it or not, any president could have the tough job of making these decisions on the fly with minimal consultation. It's easy to monday morning quarterback these things, but if he had a whiff that American lives were at risk and could curtail it, it's his duty.
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I need a drink , I couldn’t find one word of that I disagreed with and it’s messing with my continuum .
 
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Septic said:
Did Obama ask the house and senate to debate the pros and cons of dropping the Navy's finest on Bin Laden's ass? Sometimes when you have actionable intelligence, you do what must be done, chop-chop. Like it or not, any president could have the tough job of making these decisions on the fly with minimal consultation. It's easy to monday morning quarterback these things, but if he had a whiff that American lives were at risk and could curtail it, it's his duty.
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I agree entirely but he owes it to the country to explain what that "whiff" was. Now if it puts intelligence sources at risk he doesn't need to tell the public. But at least needs to explain it to the elected officials who have oversight of the Presidency. If they say we completely agree then that's good enough for me. Since Trump lies so much you just can't take his word for it.
 
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I agree entirely but he owes it to the country to explain what that "whiff" was. Now if it puts intelligence sources at risk he doesn't need to tell the public. But at least needs to explain it to the elected officials who have oversight of the Presidency. If they say we completely agree then that's good enough for me. Since Trump lies so much you just can't take his word for it.
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He does, agreed.

But if we're being honest, there will always be those who would disagree with his assessment of "imminent." The right would do the same thing to a Dem president.... I'm just saying that when sht absolutely needs to get done, I'm not mad at a president that takes a hard line against a known shtbag like Salami if there's an inkling that America's sons and daughters are in harm's way. Nah, so far, I aint mad about this, not at all.

That said, if he's lying - burn him down.
 
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BreatheUT said:
Omar and young cronies shows total disrespect for another congresswoman talking American casualties. How the feck did this biatch get elected in the United States to serve the people along with the other 1st term morons. This country is in real trouble if this is not an exception.

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Remember in liberal eyes, they are exceptional because they are exceptions and traitors to the true American spirit.
 
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Septic said:
Did Obama ask the house and senate to debate the pros and cons of dropping the Navy's finest on Bin Laden's ass? Sometimes when you have actionable intelligence, you do what must be done, chop-chop. Like it or not, any president could have the tough job of making these decisions on the fly with minimal consultation. It's easy to monday morning quarterback these things, but if he had a whiff that American lives were at risk and could curtail it, it's his duty.
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I think the discussion is now centered more on his stated justifications. What the president does not have is the freedom to decide who is a threat, and how and when that threat will be eliminated without the willingness and ability to explain and justify his actions.

Was Obama's defense of his actions so poor that members of his own party claimed.........
"They had to leave after 75 minutes while they're in the process of telling us that we need to be good little boys and girls and run along and not debate this in public. I find this absolutely insane."
 
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luthervol said:
I think the discussion is now centered more on his stated justifications. What the president does not have is the freedom to decide who is a threat, and how and when that threat will be eliminated without the willingness and ability to explain and justify his actions.

Was Obama's defense of his actions so poor that members of his own party claimed.........
"They had to leave after 75 minutes while they're in the process of telling us that we need to be good little boys and girls and run along and not debate this in public. I find this absolutely insane."
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Article 2 of the constitution says different my man. He's both the chief diplomat and the commander in chief of the armed forces. Truthfully, it's not as if this is just a good thing - it's an absolute necessity to the safeguarding of this Republic. You can not like the guy, but it's important that you grasp the underlying principals about why the office demands these privileges.

If we had to run every foreign policy or military decision through the house and senate, we'd all be speaking German right now.
 
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825VOL said:
You are blaming Trump for Iran shooting down the passenger plane? Congratulations for being the #1 idiot on here.
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Only an idiot would claim that I was blaming Trump.
Just as only an idiot would claim that the shooting down of the airplane (if it was shot down) had no connection to the heightened tensions in play.
 
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