US may have killed Quds Force Commander Qasem Soleimani

[volfanhill]

Not one news source completely is today. At the
least they actually are doing journalistic work.

They are all doing that. It’s just buried by the op reporters. Same as their network. It’s no different.

 

[Septic]

Not one news source completely is today. At the
least they actually are doing journalistic work.

 

[NurseGoodVol]

Read my posts...



I haven't weighed in on Islam in this discussion.

And read my posts. I am actually arguing to afford Islam the exact same benefit I'm arguing for Christianity. That's EXACTLY what I'm arguing for.



Take the holy texts of each religion and judge what they command you to do. Judge the actions that people commit in their name according to whether they are in accord to the texts. Nothing more. Nothing less.

Then you can judge a religion.

This.

 

[Orange_Vol1321]

 

[NurseGoodVol]

Citing OAN op-eds isnt remotely convincing.

This has been cited elsewhere over 2 years ago.

 

[Orange defense]

Dear Iranian leader: I’d like to shoot some beech nut in your eye, and kill him with my ole 45.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

I don't know if I buy this or not but if they were to be used against Assad it would benefit the interests he represents if this operation became public knowledge, it would be shut down

Ok, I see what you are saying. I think you may not be clear to what the accusation is. The accusation is that Soleimani was in Benghazi actively involved in the embassy attack and also involved in the funneling of weapons to Syria. This is what doesn't make sense.

I think me and you agree that the only logical explanation (which is what I read a few hours before) is that Soleimani was made aware of the Benghazi gun running and made an attempt to stop it. As far as him personally having boots on the ground in Benghazi at the time, that is hard to say.

 

[Orange_Vol1321]

 

[vols40]

Holy ****, if this is true?

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Not likely but nice try

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Dear Iranian leader: I’d like to shoot some beech nut in your eye, and kill him with my ole 45.

 

[BreatheUT]

I think we all knew this. I just wonder why it is taking so long to get Kerry in front of people who should be looking for answers.

 

[vols40]

So Iraq kicking US forces out and Iran is abandoning all nuke limits. Israel may end up at war with Iran before we really get into it.

And they will level Iran in a little more time than it took me to type out this post.

 

[newarkvol]

It's like some are promoting a weaker, more cartoonish replication of the atmosphere just after 9/11.
Hegel remarks somewhere that all great world-historic facts and personages appear, so to speak, twice. He forgot to add: "the first time as tragedy, the second time as farce.”

 

[Matt2496]

Due to the SAM coverage around Iran, the strategy would be to utilize FA-18 Hornets equipped with AGM-88 Harm missiles to take out the SAM sites and radars, since an aircraft that could get in and get out quickly would be needed.

A-10s could be used against armor, infantry, and AAA threats.

F-16s can also be used for SEAD and CAS, but they couldn't be operated off a carrier in the Persian Gulf and they don't have the same durability of an A-10.

Just a hypothetical Air Strike Package.

 

[NurseGoodVol]

Due to the SAM coverage around Iran, the strategy would be to utilize FA-18 Hornets equipped with AGM-88 Harm missiles to take out the SAM sites and radars, since an aircraft that could get in and get out quickly would be needed.

A-10s could be used against armor, infantry, and AAA threats.

F-16s can also be used for SEAD and CAS, but they couldn't be operated off a carrier in the Persian Gulf and they don't have the same durability of an A-10.

Just a hypothetical Air Strike Package.

It's allot more than I know, thanks.

 

[Orange defense]

Very interesting... thanks

 

[Matt2496]

Due to the SAM coverage around Iran, the strategy would be to utilize FA-18 Hornets equipped with AGM-88 Harm missiles to take out the SAM sites and radars, since an aircraft that could get in and get out quickly would be needed.

A-10s could be used against armor, infantry, and AAA threats.

F-16s can also be used for SEAD and CAS, but they couldn't be operated off a carrier in the Persian Gulf and they don't have the same durability of an A-10.

Just a hypothetical Air Strike Package.

Also, more FA18s could be used for CAP while the A10s are doing their thing.

 

[vols40]

Does anybody here really, truly believe that Trump's desire to have a distraction from impeachment and some sort of "win" played absolutely NO role in his decision? No role at all?

Come on.

Well considering he railed against Iran in his campaign and they started attacking a US embassy then yes. I don't remember Clinton campaigning by speaking of the wrongdoing of some of the places he bombed during the Lewinsky years but got a complete pass from the media when he did.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Very interesting... thanks

We have a hard on for Iran for over 70 years. Overthrowing a popular secular anticommunist in Mossadegh and replacing him with a quarter century of The Shah. Then we arm Saddam and allow Iraq to slaughter a million Iranians in the Iran-Iraq War. And then years of sanctions.

 

[DinkinFlicka]

I prefer Asians or South Americans personally... but I get it.

On this we agree.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

I wish @red butler were still here to offer his comments. I would be curious to know his opinion.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

I’d hit it....

Does it always come down to that?

 

[AM64]

I think you make some valid points, but I'd be remiss if I didn't remind you that Christianity expanded in a similar fashion. The Americas were not beacons of Christianity. Many Native Americans were given the choice to convert or die, especially in lands colonized by the Spanish. I am a Christian myself, but I recognize my religion has not always been a religion of peace. Even now, in today's world, I question how far some go to "spread the word". It's one thing to share and quite another to push, and I've witnessed quite a bit of pushing.

The world is becoming a much more screwed up place, and humanity spends too much time picking apart our differences rather than focusing on our similarities. Intolerance is going to tear this world apart.

Catholicism really did a number back in it's heyday. In fact I'd say a lot of S and Central America is still paying for its sins. And there was that little movement like the one in Salem and other places that liked to toast people to cleanse their souls. One of the greatest creators of war and strife over the centuries has been religion; I just read that with Brexit there are fears that the religious fun and games in N Ireland will back in business again. I guess you can expect "isms" and territorial lust to create problems between countries, but it's absurd to fight over religion ... something that's supposed to be about peace and love rather than pieces and hatred. It's enough to convince one to loose one's religion and simply live a good and decent life without "spiritual" guidance.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Why would they attack their American supporters?

Exactly what I'm thinking. There is no bigger enemy to America (foreign or domestic) than these Hollywood liberals.

 

[vols40]

Citing OAN op-eds isnt remotely convincing.

Attack the messenger if all else fails