US may have killed Quds Force Commander Qasem Soleimani

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carlos86 said:
Because they are stuck between a rock and a hard place and have no idea what to do.
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So doing a quick google search these latest agreements appear to be a revival of the 1975 Algiers Accord. That was primarily economic and I see nothing pertaining to military/defense cooperation. NAFTA or it’s current replacement doesn’t allow military personnel to move across sovereign nation boundaries. So I don’t see anything that says Iraq wanted this guy in their country. 🤷‍♂️
 
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Carlos is the most confusing military man I have ever seen...and my whole family is military. Like all of them.

We will establish a no fly zone over any country on Earth not named China or Russia

Then we will pound the absolute sheit out of anything we think MAY BE a target. Period.

Boots on the ground ain't happening

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marcusluvsvols said:
Carlos is the most confusing military man I have ever seen...and my whole family is military. Like all of them.

We will establish a no fly zone over any country on Earth not named China or Russia

Then we will pound the absolute sheit out of anything we think MAY BE a target. Period.

Boots on the ground ain't happening

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We have boots on the ground in Iraq and Syria and countless other places in the Mid East. Iran and her proxies could be given the green light to attack them. Not just people either they could target out ships at sea as well.
 
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That's not our job though WTOB...they need to revolt. If they attack us or Israel now.. we should level every military target in the country...then let THEM oust the Mullahs which by all accounts they want to do already...

We may get to see how well those Russian S400 SAM sites fare against tomahawks and stealth bombers.

The little confidence Carlos has in our army gives me pause...since hes a soldier.

I come from a USAF family. Our air dominance is never in question. We can put their military out of commission from the skies whenever we want. Israel and the UK will join us...after the air defenses are gone.

Your move Iran. Choose wisely
 
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Somebody bring me up to speed, just the facts, what let up to this? This is a bold calculated move that would typically be in retaliation for something.

I've not been following with politics/events for months since we bought the farm. I apologise in advance.
 
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Burhead said:
We have boots on the ground in Iraq and Syria and countless other places in the Mid East. Iran and her proxies could be given the green light to attack them. Not just people either they could target out ships at sea as well.
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I get this brother...and want none in harm's way. Iran isnt worth a single US life. I do not support an invasion or ground war.

I do support overwhelming air attacks if they attack us or Israel. Tomahawks, drones, and stealth...in that order.
 
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marcusluvsvols said:
Why would we ever try to engage a ground war with Iran??? That's for you too Carlos

Trump hasnt once tried to nation build or conquer a country. He has been REPEATEDLY provoked by Iran...and kept a cool head.

Our objective with Iran is the same it has been for decades.

Stop their terrorist activities.

Do not under any circumstances allow them to get nuclear weapons.

The Iranian people will have to oust the oppressive Mullahs themselves. Trump isnt stupid enough to put boots on the ground in Iran and try to conquer them...espc in an election year....

If and when they respond and attack us or Israel you can count on another "bombs over Baghdad" shock and awe show of overwhelming air attacks....tomahawk cruise missiles by the hundreds followed by stealth attacks after the SAM sites are gone.

Good job US and Israel...the most successful terrorist on Earth is dead. Iran can feel the wrath of a thousand tomahawks if they want it. Carrier battle groups are already in range.
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1) Iran could retaliate with cyberattacks, terror attacks, and assassinations and sooner or later you have to take the fight to them. AirPower isn't a solution it's just an enabler. Airpower is not decisive. We learned that in Vietnam and in Syria recently. Ground troops must go in at some point. "Airpower without landpower or strategic purpose is just bombing to win, without actually winning. "

2) That's worked out well

3) We may have just united the Iranian moderates and hardliners.

4) "Shock and Awe" only worked because the Iraqi military was trash. The Iranian Army numbers about 350,000 They will fight because) Iran is an insurgent's dream) and they have a modern air defense network thanks to Russia and China.
 
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Well, I'm torn on if this was a good thing or not after some more reading. Dude that was killed was a terrorist and deserved what he got. He was also a high up official in Iran; I'm not sure he was worth the risk of things going to hell. He also actively fought against ISIS in Iraq.
This seems like a favor to Israel to me, and a response to the protests at the Embassy the other night.
None of this seems like "4d chess" by Trump. He isn't capable of anything like that. It seems like a straight favor to Israel, and probably an overreaction to the Embassy protests as a show of force.
 
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KB5252 said:
Somebody bring me up to speed, just the facts, what let up to this? This is a bold calculated move that would typically be in retaliation for something.

I've not been following with politics/events for months since we bought the farm. I apologise in advance.
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Started with a missile attack on a US base in Iraq that killed an American contractor and wounded US servicemen. We bombed the group responsible. Then the pro-Iran element of the PMF tried to breach the US embassy in Baghdad. Then this happens today.
 
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zeppelin128 said:
Well, I'm torn on if this was a good thing or not after some more reading. Dude that was killed was a terrorist and deserved what he got. He was also a high up official in Iran; I'm not sure he was worth the risk of things going to hell. He also actively fought against ISIS in Iraq.
This seems like a favor to Israel to me, and a response to the protests at the Embassy the other night.
None of this seems like "4d chess" by Trump. He isn't capable of anything like that. It seems like a straight favor to Israel, and probably an overreaction to the Embassy protests as a show of force.
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Well you are an expert after an hour of google.
 
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KB5252 said:
Somebody bring me up to speed, just the facts, what let up to this? This is a bold calculated move that would typically be in retaliation for something.

I've not been following with politics/events for months since we bought the farm. I apologise in advance.
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It seems to me that they killed one of our civilian contractors recently, then we retaliated by bombing and killing about 15 or 20 of their fighters. Then they attacked our embassy in retaliation. Then , they mouthed off, and said we couldn't do jack sh!t about it.
 
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marcusluvsvols said:
I get this brother...and want none in harm's way. Iran isnt worth a single US life. I do not support an invasion or ground war.

I do support overwhelming air attacks if they attack us or Israel. Tomahawks, drones, and stealth...in that order.
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I’m not advocating it either but if I were an American over there right now I’d be nervous.
 
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Burhead said:
Started with a missile attack on a US base in Iraq that killed an American contractor and wounded US servicemen. We bombed the group responsible. Then the pro-Iran element of the PMF tried to breach the US embassy in Baghdad. Then this happens today.
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Ah, I see. Iran not even using proxies here. A decisive message was in order it seems. So both sides cool off now or poop gets real, that's the million dollar question.


I bet my cousins carrier is on the way if not already in the area.
 
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zeppelin128 said:
Well, I'm torn on if this was a good thing or not after some more reading. Dude that was killed was a terrorist and deserved what he got. He was also a high up official in Iran; I'm not sure he was worth the risk of things going to hell. He also actively fought against ISIS in Iraq.
This seems like a favor to Israel to me, and a response to the protests at the Embassy the other night.
None of this seems like "4d chess" by Trump. He isn't capable of anything like that. It seems like a straight favor to Israel, and probably an overreaction to the Embassy protests as a show of force.
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Surprised you characterize a mob trying to overrun our embassy as “protesters”.
 
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1972 Grad said:
It seems to me that they killed one of our civilian contractors recently, then we retaliated by bombing and killing about 15 or 20 of their fighters. Then they attacked our embassy in retaliation. Then , they mouthed off, and said we couldn't do jack sh!t about it.
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Lets not kid ourselves. This has been brewing since 1979.
 
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