USA Today Poll finds 58% of Republicans believe Capitol Riot was organized by Antifa

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#527
NorthDallas40 said:
If the problem has been handled why is the guard still there then?
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clarksvol00 said:
Because they're handling the problem.
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It's a sad situation, but congress may need protection forever after the glorious uprising.

...
Now the old folks will remember
On that dark and dismal day
How their hearts were choked with pride
As their children marched away
Now the glory is all gone
They are left alone

And there won't be many coming home
No, there won't be many coming home
Oh, there won't be many
Maybe five out of twenty
But there won't be many coming home

Look real closely at the soldier
Coming at you through the haze
He may be the younger brother who ran away
And before you kill another
Listen to what I say

Oh, there won't be many coming home
Oh, there won't be many coming home
Oh, there won't be many
There may not be any
But there won't be many coming home

If they all came back but one
He was still some mother's son
And there won't be many coming home

Oh, there won't be many coming home
Oh, there won't be many coming home
Oh, there won't be many coming home...
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#528
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Grand Vol said:
This. Especially with the report that just came out suggesting a "quick reaction force" be permanently stationed in DC for such things.
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With all the talk of reparations and lives that matter, you just never know when another Bonus Army might happen

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Orangeburst said:
Something has got to give....and it will
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The Constitution says
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.
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And Cornell Law School interprets it as
The First Amendment guarantees freedoms concerning religion, expression, assembly, and the right to petition. It forbids Congress from both promoting one religion over others and also restricting an individual’s religious practices. It guarantees freedom of expression by prohibiting Congress from restricting the press or the rights of individuals to speak freely. It also guarantees the right of citizens to assemble peaceably and to petition their government.
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It seems the protesters were doing it precisely the way Cornell Law interprets the Constitution. Previous protests allowing protesters to take over streets and roads including interstate highways would indicate that authorities generally give a lot of latitude regarding the right to "peaceably assemble", so you have to ask what was different here. I'm guessing words like "Trump" and the brand of protesters would be key factors. Basically libs get a sense of outrage when it's "not my kind".
 
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Grand Vol said:
You can link it. I'm just too ****ing lazy to go look for it.
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Not really interested. It was a poor comment the first time and I don’t think it’ll get better with repetition. Pointing out its flaws once was enough.

Seems like you guys are taking two general approaches:
1. Bring up extraneous, irrelevant facts to try to deflect from what everybody saw with their own eyes and minimize it. E.g.: why it couldn’t have succeeded; or
2. Narrow the definition to label it something else on a technicality because, for example, the conspirators weren’t military.

The first is intellectually lazy, not persuasive, and not interesting. The second just seems flimsy and superficial; it’s a meaningless distinction.

Ok. Call it something else, then. Condense “a small minoritiy’s sudden, poorly planned, hopeless, delusional unsuccessful attempt, to subvert the constitutional transfer of power and install Trump as unelected executive” into a word or short phrase. Putsch, maybe? The dumbest putsch. I’ll use that going forward if it will make you guys feel better.
 
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RockyTop85 said:
Not really interested. It was a poor comment the first time and I don’t think it’ll get better with repetition. Pointing out its flaws once was enough.

Seems like you guys are taking two general approaches:
1. Bring up extraneous, irrelevant facts to try to deflect from what everybody saw with their own eyes and minimize it. E.g.: why it couldn’t have succeeded; or
2. Narrow the definition to label it something else on a technicality because, for example, the conspirators weren’t military.

The first is intellectually lazy, not persuasive, and not interesting. The second just seems flimsy and superficial; it’s a meaningless distinction.

Ok. Call it something else, then. Condense “a small minoritiy’s sudden, poorly planned, hopeless, delusional unsuccessful attempt, to subvert the constitutional transfer of power and install Trump as unelected executive” into a word or short phrase. Putsch, maybe? The dumbest putsch. I’ll use that going forward if it will make you guys feel better.
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You idiots have been playing fast and loose with terms for years to fit your narrative and inflammatory speech. Collusion vs Conspiracy, Coup vs Not a real Coup, Gender (a completely made up word) vs sex, etc...
 
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RockyTop85 said:
Not really interested. It was a poor comment the first time and I don’t think it’ll get better with repetition. Pointing out its flaws once was enough.

Seems like you guys are taking two general approaches:
1. Bring up extraneous, irrelevant facts to try to deflect from what everybody saw with their own eyes and minimize it. E.g.: why it couldn’t have succeeded; or
2. Narrow the definition to label it something else on a technicality because, for example, the conspirators weren’t military.

The first is intellectually lazy, not persuasive, and not interesting. The second just seems flimsy and superficial; it’s a meaningless distinction.

Ok. Call it something else, then. Condense “a small minoritiy’s sudden, poorly planned, hopeless, delusional unsuccessful attempt, to subvert the constitutional transfer of power and install Trump as unelected executive” into a word or short phrase. Putsch, maybe? The dumbest putsch. I’ll use that going forward if it will make you guys feel better.
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Or you could just say those who use the term coup or insurrection are full of **** and be done with it...

Because, as I continue to say, if it was an insurrection, we'd have a smoking hole in the ground where the Capitol once stood. And if it was a coup, why didn't Trump back it?

So...

You're full of **** for using the term.
 
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Grand Vol said:
Or you could just say those who use the term coup or insurrection are full of **** and be done with it...

Because, as I continue to say, if it was an insurrection, we'd have a smoking hole in the ground where the Capitol once stood. And if it was a coup, why didn't Trump back it?

So...

You're full of **** for using the term.
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Oh you’ve done it now. Prepare for a withering snarky assault of full on butt hurt.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
You idiots have been playing fast and loose with terms for years to fit your narrative and inflammatory speech. Collusion vs Conspiracy, Coup vs Not a real Coup, Gender (a completely made up word) vs sex, etc...
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Dims are all about definitions - mainly revisionist definitions. Just ask Billy C. Perhaps it's "controlling the narrative" when it's impossible to cover up the facts.
 
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Grand Vol said:
Or you could just say those who use the term coup or insurrection are full of **** and be done with it...

Because, as I continue to say, if it was an insurrection, we'd have a smoking hole in the ground where the Capitol once stood. And if it was a coup, why didn't Trump back it?

So...

You're full of **** for using the term.
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So the lazy, uninteresting approach that ignores the facts. Still lazy and uninteresting the second time.

I still don’t understand why, if you guys insist on living in a counterfactual reality, why don’t you just pretend like Trump is still president and be done with it?

Things like pretending the election was stolen, there wasn’t a putsch/coup, and Trump didn’t support it just seem like half measures.
 
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RockyTop85 said:
So the lazy, uninteresting approach that ignores the facts. Still lazy and uninteresting the second time.

I still don’t understand why, if you guys insist on living in a counterfactual reality, why don’t you just pretend like Trump is still president and be done with it?

Things like pretending the election was stolen, there wasn’t a putsch/coup, and Trump didn’t support it just seem like half measures.
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You really aren't making sense here...
 
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Grand Vol said:
Lol.

Your definition of "butthurt" must really be outside of most people's reality.
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Most of the definitions of butthurt in the PF are outside of reality. Butthurt tends to mean, "this poster won't agree with me," around here. Don't worry. I've used the term too.
 
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RockyTop85 said:
So the lazy, uninteresting approach that ignores the facts. Still lazy and uninteresting the second time.

I still don’t understand why, if you guys insist on living in a counterfactual reality, why don’t you just pretend like Trump is still president and be done with it?

Things like pretending the election was stolen, there wasn’t a putsch/coup, and Trump didn’t support it just seem like half measures.
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The election was stolen
There was no insurrection, a few people breaking into the Capitol for selfies isn’t a coup attempt
And Trump didn’t ask for nor encourage anyone breaking into the Capitol
 
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