USC Please Give me a break.

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#252
VolfanMike said:
I agree that UT puts alot of players into the NFL, but Lockdown is acting like USC doesnt put anyone in.
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No I'm not I'm just saying our guys are better. Peyton QB. Jamal Lewis RB. Donte Stallworth WR. Chad Clifton OL. Jason Witten TE. John Henderson and Albert Haynesworth at DT. Jerod Mayo Future Stud LB. Gibril Wilson S. All of these guys except for Mayo are better than any USC counterpart at the same position. Thats my point.
 
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#254
Lockdown1 said:
No I'm not I'm just saying our guys are better. Peyton QB. Jamal Lewis RB. Donte Stallworth WR. Chad Clifton OL. Jason Witten TE. John Henderson and Albert Haynesworth at DT. Jerod Mayo Future Stud LB. Gibril Wilson S. All of these guys except for Mayo are better than any USC counterpart at the same position. Thats my point.
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Add Scott Wells, who has been anchoring the GB O-Line for some time now, along w/ Anthony Herrea, who has been a wall for Minnesota. Contributing receivers like Cedric Wilson and Peerless Price. Travis Henry put together a decent career with some good seasons, Colquitt is one of the best punters in the NFL, Omar Gaither has made a name for himself in Philly, not to mention guys who are incredibly valuable to their defense/special teams like Kevin Burnett and Parys Haralson
 
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#255
Lockdown1 said:
Why are so many people in love with this team? For one if they were in the SEC we wouldn't hear about them. Another thing they really don't have as many good players as people think. Ex: when they move on to the pros they become busts more often than not. Ex B: Emmanuel Moody transfers to Florida after being a factor back at USC and can't make it off the practice squad. He also looks slow. Its terrible that they save them every year from playin a marquee SEC team. Why schedule Aurburn and Arkansas. How aboutthey schedule Georgia, Florida, LSU, Tennessee. This is getting terrible. Instead of playing Georgia in the BCS bowl they sent the Pac-10's baby brother Hawaii to take the whoppin. Others thoughts on this all universe team are welcome.
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This is the original post. Everything in bold, you were wrong. The only thing you have left, is what is not in bold. I could say, USC has 11 NFL Hall of Famers, & three current NFL head coaches. Either way, schools are responsible for what they do while they're in school, not what they do in the NFL. There are many great Vols, who didn't do much, if at all anything in the NFL.
 
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#256
droski said:
Cal and Mizzou would be a very good game as would Tech and Oregon. I'd say they are toss ups.

UCLA would probably lose to kansas. Arizona would blow out colorado. ASU would blow out K State. Stanford would definetly beat baylor. Oregon state sucks this year so they probably would loose to Oklahoma state.
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I think missouri would handle cal

if Oregon ran the ball, they'd stay in it, but if not, TTU would handle them
 
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#257
I don't think Zona blows out colorade

I'll agree on stanford and a state
 
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#258
You'd have to be crazy to not give the Pac-10 and USC credit for what they've done and the players they have.
 
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#261
justingroves said:
USC has bitch slapped both Auburn and Arkansas in the past couple of seasons.
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And neither were really the best our conference had to offer, I still don't think our best want to go calling out USC though. While I think they do get the benefit of a weaker conference schedule they have great talent and are well coached. If our best played USC it would be a great game I just don't think we would dominate them as some seem to believe.
 
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KB5252 said:
And neither were really the best our conference had to offer, I still don't think our best want to go calling out USC though. While I think they do get the benefit of a weaker conference schedule they have great talent and are well coached. If our best played USC it would be a great game I just don't think we would dominate them as some seem to believe.
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LSU and USC would IMO be a great game. UF would get trampled by USC's speed on D. Tennessee or Georgia wants no part of USC.
 
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droski said:
Listed below is every SEC versus Pac-10 head-to-head matchup going back to the year 2000.









2000 Alabama 24, UCLA 35 {PAC10}




2001 UCLA 20, Alabama 17 {PAC10}




2002 Auburn 17, USC 24 {PAC10} Mississippi State 13, Oregon 36 {PAC10}




2003 USC 23, Auburn 0 {PAC10} LSU 59, Arizona 13 {SEC} Oregon 42, Mississippi State 34 {PAC10}




2004 Oregon State 21, LSU 22 {SEC}




2005 Arkansas 17, USC 70 {PAC10} LSU 35, Arizona State 31 {SEC}




2006 USC 50, Arkansas 14 {PAC10} Washington State 14, Auburn 40 {SEC}Arizona 3, LSU 45 {SEC} California 18, Tennessee 35 {SEC}




2007 Tennessee 31, California 45 {PAC10}

The Pac-10 ends up with a 9-6 record against the SEC. So much for the speed and athleticism of the SEC catching up with them.




The most alarming part is that if we take the two powerhouses, USC and LSU, out of the equation, the Pac-10 is 5-2 against the SEC.




It's interesting how every SEC fan who wants to derail the "Pac-10 Football Is Better Than SEC Football" argument claims the Pac-10 proponents only lean on USC. Well, we took them out of the equation—and the Pac-10 still rules the day.




There's not much else to say on this topic: The Pac-10 is better against SEC opponents than the SEC is against Pac-10 opponents.




I don't know what SEC fans are going to do to explain this one. Maybe they'll claim that the SEC doesn't try out of conference, or that the game wasn't big enough so they probably just threw it.




Whatever excuses are made by SEC fans, the fact remains that the Pac-10 has a 9-6 record against the SEC since 2000. If you take out USC and LSU, the Pac-10 owns a 5-2 record.
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That is an alarming stat! Hate to say it, but true!:banghead2:
 
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#264
KB5252 said:
And neither were really the best our conference had to offer, I still don't think our best want to go calling out USC though. While I think they do get the benefit of a weaker conference schedule they have great talent and are well coached. If our best played USC it would be a great game I just don't think we would dominate them as some seem to believe.
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Like i said earlier in this thread. If UT got matched up with USC I think we would all go crying to mom.
 
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VolfanMike said:
Like i said earlier in this thread. If UT got matched up with USC I think we would all go crying to mom.
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A'freaking"men to that.

It does not make UT a bad program, but USC is the class of the NCAA since 2000. Better than anything the SEC has had.
 
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peaygolf89 said:
That is an alarming stat! Hate to say it, but true!:banghead2:
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You take LSU out of that equation along with Auburn during some of that span and they are hardly playing against the upper tier SEC teams. While I do think the SEC is better top to bottom our record is not great against them. Just curious, how many of those games were played in PAC 10 country?
 
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#267
IMO, the bottom line is that the PAC 10 is USC and everyone else. All of the others find a year here and there where they compete favorably in the PAC 10. The difference is that the SEC has a group of 5 or 6 teams who have legitimately been at the top and have generally sustained excellence over many years. Even our sagging outfit would be a perennial power in the Pac 10.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
IMO, the bottom line is that the PAC 10 is USC and everyone else. All of the others find a year here and there where they compete favorably in the PAC 10. The difference is that the SEC has a group of 5 or 6 teams who have legitimately been at the top and have generally sustained excellence over many years. Even our sagging outfit would be a perennial power in the Pac 10.
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USC was the jest of the thread. They are the best. they are ...year in year out...better than the best of the SEC. I know LSU has 2 NC and UF has 1 since 2000. I get that. But one could argue that USC was better than those teams each year. I don't think so, but it could be argued. They are always (since 2000) the best of the Pac 10. The SEC has had UF, LSU, Auburn that were the SEC best. The object of the thread was USC is a joke. BULL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! They are the model program of the NCAA. It is a fact.
 
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peaygolf89 said:
USC was the jest of the thread. They are the best. they are ...year in year out...better than the best of the SEC. I know LSU has 2 NC and UF has 1 since 2000. I get that. But one could argue that USC was better than those teams each year. I don't think so, but it could be argued. They are always (since 2000) the best of the Pac 10. The SEC has had UF, LSU, Auburn that were the SEC best. The object of the thread was USC is a joke. BULL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! They are the model program of the NCAA. It is a fact.
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Hey everybody Mark May has made an appearance on the Board.:clapping:
 
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droski's post reminded me of LSU's games against Oregon State and Arizona State in '04 and '05, respectively. It still boggles me how the Tigers twice managed to escape only by acts of god to mid-level Pac-10 teams.

In '04, Oregon State missed three PAT's only to lose to LSU by one point in overtime. LSU went on to finish 6-2 in the SEC and got a January bowl bid. Oregon State went on to finish 5-3 in the Pac-10.

In '05, LSU blocked a punt and a FG attempt in the fourth quarter to narrowly escape ASU. Arizona State went on to finish 4-4 in the Pac-10 while LSU went on to finish 7-1 as SEC West champs.
 
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milohimself said:
droski's post reminded me of LSU's games against Oregon State and Arizona State in '04 and '05, respectively. It still boggles me how the Tigers twice managed to escape only by acts of god to mid-level Pac-10 teams.

In '04, Oregon State missed three PAT's only to lose to LSU by one point in overtime. LSU went on to finish 6-2 in the SEC and got a January bowl bid. Oregon State went on to finish 5-3 in the Pac-10.

In '05, LSU blocked a punt and a FG attempt in the fourth quarter to narrowly escape ASU. Arizona State went on to finish 4-4 in the Pac-10 while LSU went on to finish 7-1 as SEC West champs.
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Alex Serna tried to kill himself after that LSU game.

Didn't he win the Groza a year later?
 
#272
#272
milohimself said:
droski's post reminded me of LSU's games against Oregon State and Arizona State in '04 and '05, respectively. It still boggles me how the Tigers twice managed to escape only by acts of god to mid-level Pac-10 teams.

In '04, Oregon State missed three PAT's only to lose to LSU by one point in overtime. LSU went on to finish 6-2 in the SEC and got a January bowl bid. Oregon State went on to finish 5-3 in the Pac-10.

In '05, LSU blocked a punt and a FG attempt in the fourth quarter to narrowly escape ASU. Arizona State went on to finish 4-4 in the Pac-10 while LSU went on to finish 7-1 as SEC West champs.
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honestly, they never had any consistency at QB on the bayou. Russell was all upside then, just as he is today.
 
#273
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milohimself said:
... Wat?

droski: To most of these guys, even suggesting the size of the quality gap between the Pac-10 and SEC will get you flamed around here. It's like arguing abortion; just gets people pissed off and running around in circles. Not worth your time.

This is your only hope, really: Begin and end each post with "NOTICE: I hereby recognize that the SEC is a more talented and tougher conference than the Pac-10." Probably the only way you can get some around here to actually read your posts.
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That was referring to droski's statement that the reason Auburn did not get into the National Title game in 04 was because the SEC was lousy and I said that it was still probably as good or better than the PAC-10 that year. USC still got in. So I was asking what his point was.

:thumbsup:
 
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