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[Darth_Shiveman]

He's easily the most delusional opposing fan that we (USU) have come across in a while. He literally thinks he knows more about our team than we do, and talks up your team like they will be in the Natty this year. He's just hot air, talking out of his ass. I only came over here because of the sh*t he was spouting over there.

I think both teams will be good (top 35ish teams), and the game will be a dogfight. :hi:

Just put him on ignore. Any thought put into educating or having reasoned discussion with him is wasted effort.

If it's any consolation, I'm pretty sure he made similar statements about talent level and every team we played last year save Bama and Oregon.

Ignorance is bliss in this case.

 

[butchna]

He's easily the most delusional opposing fan that we (USU) have come across in a while. He literally thinks he knows more about our team than we do, and talks up your team like they will be in the Natty this year. He's just hot air, talking out of his ass. I only came over here because of the sh*t he was spouting over there.

I think both teams will be good (top 35ish teams), and the game will be a dogfight. :hi:

You come over here BECAUSE YOU CAN'T STAY AWAY!!!! :yu: Your site is spare GARBAGE....andsoareyou :focus:

SJT can be a whip sometimes but you earned his undivided attention by talking smack about us on your Atari server backed joke of a site....boasting about how fun it was to poke at us on OUR BOARD and encouraging the other ten goat breeders to follow suit...FUN HUH? :aggressive:

 

[WoodsmanVol]

My only concern with this game is if Keeton plays, and if he plays well or not. If I was their HC I would keep it a secret if he's playing or not. Keep CBJ wondering. He'll either prep for him playing or not. If he doesn't and he plays it might bite him in the arse. If he does prep for him it'll stretch his resources, so I would def keep that close to the vest if I were their HC. I won't feel comfortable with our possibilities in this game until I see who runs out in their first drive. If he plays i'll get nervous until I see if he's going to play nervous or balls to the wall under the Sunday night lights of Neyland.

Joker Philips did this prior to our '12 game, Sumlin benefited from not having to show Manziel off prior to the UF game because of the LA Tech game being postponed. Though they lost it was a huge benefit imo, and no one being able to prep for him helped them that season. Last year confirmed that to me. I think Stoops benefited by Saban not really knowing who the QB was going to be, and not that much solid tape. OU being able to get him ready under the radar was a good strategy.

So that's why I'm concerned until whether or not Keeton comes out. Not so much about Hill if Keeton isn't playing. With Keeton it can be close and their "David heart" vs Goliath can help them beat us. If he isn't playing or he comes out timid then we should be fine. May not be a blow out but definitely knock the kinks out vs "the little engine that could" type of team.
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USU can't do that. He's the only really big play QB they have. Garretson doesn't seem to have very much upside but is sort of like our Worley has been, only against weaker teams than we play. Hence his success. I'm not as worried as some because I think it was demonstrated that while we may not have an All-SEC QB, we got four that now knows CBJ's system and can run it successfully. Three mobile guys who can pass and a game manager. You ask me, I think they have the problem of who to plan for. To top it off, The Butch is likely to play more than one QB to muddy the waters even more.

 

[WoodsmanVol]

If other USU fans came here with this attitude, there wouldnt really be any bickering. Its the guys that come in and say we suck because we havent been able to beat teams like Alabama, UF, UGA, Auburn, Oregon and others over the past few years. Something that very few teams could do.

Welcome to VN.

I'm sorry to say that you're wrong. Over the years, I have peeked into mostly non-SEC rival boards. Time and again, I see Vols fans (not many and it doesn't take many) go over spouting the same kind of foolery we've seen from ag4fr and MJA. Of course, this gets the natives stirred up and we end up with a few of their own nitwits coming in here to get even.

I've seen posts like YoungBloodAggie's before. Too often one or more of our nitwits shove the civility aside and commence to swiftly or gradually going into attack mode.

YoungBloodAggie, I enjoyed your post and think it has more plausibility than I'd like. The only hold back for me is I know The Butch will have his players playing like rabid hounds on the trail of the raccoon and possum gang that killed the pack's favorite puppy.

The boys already both know and feel they have so much to prove that I don't think they're in what you'd call a good mood already. The rough tackling, intra-squad fights, weight room battles, extra time players are putting in without being asked. They're nasty and getting nastier. Then when you have a true Neyland crowd egging them on, believe me, there's a reason the California kid years ago called Neyland a freak show.

Oh yeah, the guy on your site who watched the UT O&W game and questioned the wisdom of CBJ letting the QBs be live. Tell him The Butch doesn't fool around. When he wants a QB ready for game time, he puts them in the open field and tells them to survive or else. The defense's job is seek the QBs demise. The Butch doesn't fool around. You don't get a QB game ready by teaching him to play pattycake or letting your defense treat him like they'd do in letting their kid sister win at arm wrestling. The hits they will experience by NFL ready defenders in the SEC dictates you be man enough to take the hits, get up off the ground. Then in the words of one of worst performing QBs we ever had, the unflappable Matt Simms say, "I'm still here."

Finally, God bless Tennessee and Utah as you say. Bout time both fanbases remember we both are part of the good ole USA. We'll do the rumble on the river and the Sunday night shiver, then shake hands after we deliver.

 

[Orange_Crush]

He's easily the most delusional opposing fan that we (USU) have come across in a while. He literally thinks he knows more about our team than we do, and talks up your team like they will be in the Natty this year. He's just hot air, talking out of his ass. I only came over here because of the sh*t he was spouting over there.

I think both teams will be good (top 35ish teams), and the game will be a dogfight. :hi:

He has done neither. Either you are the one purposefully filling the forum with hot air, or you are delusional.

He has made observations while admitting you know your team better than he does. His observations seem pretty valid considering what we have had access to see, and none of your fans have actually been able to negate his observations.

He has pointed out the lack of talent via recruiting rankings, which you guys seem to gloss over or ignore.

He has gone into far more detail per quality of wins/losses than your fans are interested in hearing.

He has backed up his arguments pretty well, and you guys have gotten your magic underwear in a twist because someone on our site took the time to answer your arrogance on our site with well reasoned, statistical responses.

I finally ventured over to your site for a gander. Usually I won't do that-- especially with teams of lower caliber that we're just giving money to to come here and take their loss with dignity. You guys are delusional, and many of your are hypocrites. You talk butt-hurt about our comments here while being offended that anyone from here would show up and insult your team. You revel in trolling our board while claiming pity on us that we've fallen so low as to visit your site. You know what, when a Koala bear pokes a hornets nest, even the Koala bear gets stung.

I would recommend you stop poking the hornets nest and come to our home bearing a bit of honey instead. This had the potential to be a very productive and respectful meeting of two fanbases. It could still be that. The ball is in your court.

 

[WoodsmanVol]

He has done neither. Either you are the one purposefully filling the forum with hot air, or you are delusional.

He has made observations while admitting you know your team better than he does. His observations seem pretty valid considering what we have had access to see, and none of your fans have actually been able to negate his observations.

He has pointed out the lack of talent via recruiting rankings, which you guys seem to gloss over or ignore.

He has gone into far more detail per quality of wins/losses than your fans are interested in hearing.

He has backed up his arguments pretty well, and you guys have gotten your magic underwear in a twist because someone on our site took the time to answer your arrogance on our site with well reasoned, statistical responses.

I finally ventured over to your site for a gander. Usually I won't do that-- especially with teams of lower caliber that we're just giving money to to come here and take their loss with dignity. You guys are delusional, and many of your are hypocrites. You talk butt-hurt about our comments here while being offended that anyone from here would show up and insult your team. You revel in trolling our board while claiming pity on us that we've fallen so low as to visit your site. You know what, when a Koala bear pokes a hornets nest, even the Koala bear gets stung.

I would recommend you stop poking the hornets nest and come to our home bearing a bit of honey instead. This had the potential to be a very productive and respectful meeting of two fanbases. It could still be that. The ball is in your court.

Blast you, Orange Brush!!!! Dayum you!!! With such a ringing endorsement, I got to take sjt18 off my IGNORE list. Actually, had been contemplating that anyway while browsing without signing into VN. Had seen a number of his posts and enjoyed them despite myself. SIGH! Here goes.

 

[Orange_Crush]

Blast you, Orange Brush!!!! Dayum you!!! With such a ringing endorsement, I got to take sjt18 off my IGNORE list. Actually, had been contemplating that anyway while browsing without signing into VN. Had seen a number of his posts and enjoyed them despite myself. SIGH! Here goes.

I am the stick to the pot, my friend...

 

[KnoxRealtorVOL]

He's easily the most delusional opposing fan that we (USU) have come across in a while. He literally thinks he knows more about our team than we do, and talks up your team like they will be in the Natty this year. He's just hot air, talking out of his ass. I only came over here because of the sh*t he was spouting over there.

I think both teams will be good (top 35ish teams), and the game will be a dogfight. :hi:

MJA you're going to have to explain something to me. I keep seeing you mention things like "the players we lost in that position only played because of experience, the person starting in that position this year is way more talented!" For example:

1. We lost 3/5ths of our O-line, yes. Doesn't mean we lost "talent", the guys replacing them were all more highly rated recruits and most have 2+ years in the program. Our talent level overall has only increased.

You've said something similar about several positions. If the guys replacing your starters this year were, for sure, better players than the ones that started last year, then the better players should have been the starters last year. I'm not sure how you can justify saying "our new lineman is way more talented than the one we just lost, he just didn't play because he didn't have as much experience" That's not how football, or any other sport, works.

The only way you can use the "we have better talent this year than last year" argument is if you're referring to your latest recruiting class. And if we're going to base our predictions of the USU/UT game off of the latest recruiting class, then God help the poor Aggies.

 

[KBVol]

MJA you're going to have to explain something to me. I keep seeing you mention things like "the players we lost in that position only played because of experience, the person starting in that position this year is way more talented!" For example:



You've said something similar about several positions. If the guys replacing your starters this year were, for sure, better players than the ones that started last year, then the better players should have been the starters last year. I'm not sure how you can justify saying "our new lineman is way more talented than the one we just lost, he just didn't play because he didn't have as much experience" That's not how football, or any other sport, works.

The only way you can use the "we have better talent this year than last year" argument is if you're referring to your latest recruiting class. And if we're going to base our predictions of the USU/UT game off of the latest recruiting class, then God help the poor Aggies.

Well said Chatt. Logic is hard for some.

Just for giggles..... 2014 recruiting class rankings .....

Tennessee - #5, highlighted by 2 5stars and 16 4stars

Utah St - #106, highlighted by 0 4stars and 1 3star.

2013------
Tennessee - #21, highlighted by 3 4stars and 13 3stars

Utah St - #105, highlighted by 0 4stars and 3 3stars

 

[RiseToTheTop]

USU has signed 21 3-Star players since 2010. Only about 7 or 8 still remain on the team. All the others were 2's or unranked.

I'm not seeing where the whole "well we had better talent behind our starters " comes into play here.

In the SEC, UT has lacked talent. That situation has been gettin corrected sine Butch took over. There were still some highly rated guys remaining as well that can play ball. But just because we were lacking some in the SEC world does NOT mean we are lacking talent thats better than Utah State. Sure USU has found some gems in recruiting but for every low 2 star that pans out I can give you hundreds who didnt. The talent gap is huge here. You guys don't understand that though.

 

[Orange_Crush]

USU has signed 21 3-Star players since 2010. Only about 7 or 8 still remain on the team. All the others were 2's or unranked.

I'm not seeing where the whole "well we had better talent behind our starters " comes into play here.

In the SEC, UT has lacked talent. That situation has been gettin corrected sine Butch took over. There were still some highly rated guys remaining as well that can play ball. But just because we were lacking some in the SEC world does NOT mean we are lacking talent thats better than Utah State. Sure USU has found some gems in recruiting but for every low 2 star that pans out I can give you hundreds who didnt. The talent gap is huge here. You guys don't understand that though.

But you don't understand, those low-star players have gotten up for 4 quasi-good teams in the last four years. I mean, they still lost those games. But they got up to the 'sorta-competitive' level with four decent teams in four years. Their low-start players are better than our 3-4-5* players. Book it and assume the position.

 

[Madmartigan]

USU has signed 21 3-Star players since 2010. Only about 7 or 8 still remain on the team. All the others were 2's or unranked.

I'm not seeing where the whole "well we had better talent behind our starters " comes into play here.

In the SEC, UT has lacked talent. That situation has been gettin corrected sine Butch took over. There were still some highly rated guys remaining as well that can play ball. But just because we were lacking some in the SEC world does NOT mean we are lacking talent thats better than Utah State. Sure USU has found some gems in recruiting but for every low 2 star that pans out I can give you hundreds who didnt. The talent gap is huge here. You guys don't understand that though.

Aggie fan here- thanks for letting me post. I'm planning on being in Knoxville for the game and look forward to the fabled southern hospitality of the SEC schools I hear so much about. I am also looking forward to a world-class game experience and might sing along to Rocky Top a time or two to get in on it.

As for the scrimmage, game, and match up I'd like to weigh in as objectively as an USU alum can. Cleary UT has superior athletes. More stars, more highly sought after, however you want to put it that's a reality. I think Butch Jones is doing an admirable job though it hasn't yet shown in W-L record.

I think this game will be competitive. I don't think Utah State will win, but I don't think we'll be blown out. Our other money games have been discussed ad nauseum, but it's happened enough times in a row to show that USU will not roll over to bigger programs. I think both Tennessee and Utah State have question marks. It is easy for an UT fan to say, well we have better talent so we'll win easily: I think this is folly to assume. Tennessee did have a losing record last season after all. I know, I know it was in the mighty SEC, but still something to consider. As far as position groups go, I can give you the low-down from USU

QB: You probably have heard of Chuckie Keeton. When healthy, he is a dynamic play maker. He can run and throw accurately. His first game as a freshman was against Auburn and nearly led USU to a victory that day. He went out fifth game of the season with an ACL. Who knows how he'll be-- he's tough mentally and a hard worker. He will adjust his game the way he needs to be successful

OL: Very much a question mark. Replacing an NFL center and three other starters on the O-Line. Most of the guys on the line have some game experience, but only one has signifigant time logged. Big question mark here.

WR: Probably our deepest group. The three starters saw significant snaps last year and are starting to come into their own. They will be dynamic- USU hasn't had a play-making group here in some time. I think that changes this year

RB: Joe Hill will be the starter- he tore his ACL the game before Chuckie. I haven't seen enough of him to say that he'll have an outstanding year, but I do think he's a good back. USU had three NFL Runningbacks drafted the past two years so we're not unfamiliar with talent in this area. This is a group I worry about and was mediocre last year.

D-Line: We run a 3-4. We lose two starters from the line but rotate quite a bit. The starters all have signifigant experience

Linebacker: Our linebackers are quite good by lowly MWC standards. We return two all conference Linebackers. One of which is an NFL Talent- Kyler Fackrell who is 6'5" 250 and has great speed. This is a fast, aggressive, and deep group.

Secondary: We are replacing two NFL guys here. You are already familiar with Daniel Gray. Our other safety, Brian Suite was an all MWC performer. This position group very much remains a question mark.

I am looking forward to the game and some lively discussion before hand. Best of luck to your program.

 

[Orange_Crush]

Welcome, madmatigan. I hope your experience at the game is enjoyable and memorable. It's safe to say we're all looking forward to the season opener.

 

[sjt18]

He's easily the most delusional opposing fan that we (USU) have come across in a while. He literally thinks he knows more about our team than we do, and talks up your team like they will be in the Natty this year. He's just hot air, talking out of his ass. I only came over here because of the sh*t he was spouting over there.

I think both teams will be good (top 35ish teams), and the game will be a dogfight. :hi:

Speaking of delusional... I have never said I know more about your team than you do. I have only said that I know enough. And I'll add this... I know more about YOUR team than your fans know about UT's.

One of them stated that you have more speed. They cited a former two star, very small RB (Hill) as someone who runs a 4.3. Even taking that at face value, Hurd has posted a 4.37 40 at 6'3" and over 220. UT has speed and especially among its younger players.

If the game comes down to talent... it won't be a dogfight.

 

[MJA]

You come over here BECAUSE YOU CAN'T STAY AWAY!!!! :yu: Your site is spare GARBAGE....andsoareyou :focus:

SJT can be a whip sometimes but you earned his undivided attention by talking smack about us on your Atari server backed joke of a site....boasting about how fun it was to poke at us on OUR BOARD and encouraging the other ten goat breeders to follow suit...FUN HUH? :aggressive:

Message board smack? USUfans is far superior than this place :crazy:

 

[MJA]

Speaking of delusional... I have never said I know more about your team than you do. I have only said that I know enough. And I'll add this... I know more about YOUR team than your fans know about UT's.

One of them stated that you have more speed. They cited a former two star, very small RB (Hill) as someone who runs a 4.3. Even taking that at face value, Hurd has posted a 4.37 40 at 6'3" and over 220. UT has speed and especially among its younger players.

If the game comes down to talent... it won't be a dogfight.

You just spout the same thing over and over again. If it was about talent, USC wouldn't have only beat us by 3 at home, Wisconsin by 2 on a last second FG, Auburn on a miracle 10 point comeback with under 2 mins left. All 3 of those teams had 4/5 star guys, and more success than Tennessee in recent years.

If it was about scouting site star rankings, you guys would've beaten USA by more than a touchdown. And not lost to Oregon by 45 points (you probably have more 4 star guys than them), Vandy by 4, Missouri by 28.

Keep spouting out about all that talent (it's not getting you anywhere), sue USU fans if we aren't shaking in our boots before playing such a great 5-7 SEC team!

 

[MustafaRasta]

You just spout the same thing over and over again. If it was about talent, USC wouldn't have only beat us by 3 at home, Wisconsin by 2 on a last second FG, Auburn on a miracle 10 point comeback with under 2 mins left. All 3 of those teams had 4/5 star guys, and more success than Tennessee in recent years.

If it was about scouting site star rankings, you guys would've beaten USA by more than a touchdown. And not lost to Oregon by 45 points (you probably have more 4 star guys than them), Vandy by 4, Missouri by 28.

Keep spouting out about all that talent (it's not getting you anywhere), sue USU fans if we aren't shaking in our boots before playing such a great 5-7 SEC team!

You would be 0-8 in the SEC and the only 4 wins you would have would be the 4 OC games you would schedule. You could schedule really weak opponents , like ones from the WAC.

I never saw such a goober come on and brag about close wins or know so little about football that he thinks Wisconsin gets 4-5 star guys. Take a look at the yearly classes, let me know when Wisconsin cracks top 25. That same Wisconsin team you are bragging on that went 6-6 regular season? Yea they were a powerhouse. You do understand 6 is just 1 more than 5 which is what we have been averaging, and yes I know it's garbage.

Nice LOSS to a regular season 7-5 Auburn team also.

You guys had one good year, and now you have 1 good player. He will graduate and you will be left with your 121st ranked classes playing in your half empty 35,000 seat stadium and back to your usual 3-4 wins per year. Watch out for those tough road games like @ Hawaii and Colorado ST.

You play in a powder puff joke league where your toughest schedule run could be 2-3 games, you play less top ten teams in your history than Tennessee does in 1 season. I read you team board and another of your delusional fans said"I can't believe they don't respect the nations 6th best conference" (By the way, the decimated AAC is probably still better than the WAC) Seriously, you guys...go beat Fresno St 1st.

 

[WoodsmanVol]

Speaking of delusional... I have never said I know more about your team than you do. I have only said that I know enough. And I'll add this... I know more about YOUR team than your fans know about UT's.

One of them stated that you have more speed. They cited a former two star, very small RB (Hill) as someone who runs a 4.3. Even taking that at face value, Hurd has posted a 4.37 40 at 6'3" and over 220. UT has speed and especially among its younger players.

If the game comes down to talent... it won't be a dogfight.

Don't dismiss that Hill guy. Remember that little Asian guy on the Montana team? I have never seen an Asian move so fast outside of a martial arts mat. Guy was little but could scoot. Scored on us, you recall?
Heat and humidity are a factor but I think the USU boys breathe air at a higher altitude. So they'll have access to more oxygen in Knoxville. Just saying don't assume too much, it can whirl around and bite off your nose. But don't worry, The Butch will have our boys taking out a lot of frustrations and more first game day.

==Sung to the tune of I heard it on the Grapevines==

"People say believe half of what you see,
son, and none of what you hear.
I can't help bein' confused"

--Marvin Gaye--

 

[butchna]

Message board smack? USUfans is far superior than this place :crazy:

Whiff...at least you're going to inherit the Earth. :angel:

 

[KBVol]

Message board smack? USUfans is far superior than this place :crazy:

Ok, now you're just letting your emotions get the best of you. If you believe this to be true, you'd be done here and spend all your time on that board.

 

[KnoxRealtorVOL]

Don't dismiss that Hill guy. Remember that little Asian guy on the Montana team? I have never seen an Asian move so fast outside of a martial arts mat. Guy was little but could scoot. Scored on us, you recall?
Heat and humidity are a factor but I think the USU boys breathe air at a higher altitude. So they'll have access to more oxygen in Knoxville. Just saying don't assume too much, it can whirl around and bite off your nose. But don't worry, The Butch will have our boys taking out a lot of frustrations and more first game day.

==Sung to the tune of I heard it on the Grapevines==

"People say believe half of what you see,
son, and none of what you hear.
I can't help bein' confused"

--Marvin Gaye--

And how did that game turn out?

 

[VOLout8]

Tennessee is far more talented than USU. Problem has been that hasn't translated much over the past few years even when we play no body teams like USU. I don't care if they have gotten love for the top 25. Tennessee should be able to handle these guys by a comfortable margin. If we don't then it's on coaching.

 

[Madmartigan]

Tennessee is far more talented than USU. Problem has been that hasn't translated much over the past few years even when we play no body teams like USU. I don't care if they have gotten love for the top 25. Tennessee should be able to handle these guys by a comfortable margin. If we don't then it's on coaching.

You know that whole adage about talent losing to hard work and desire? It can and does translate in college football. Not saying it will in this game, but it's something to consider. Tennessee certainly is the more physically gifted group of the two.

 

[sjt18]

You just spout the same thing over and over again.

And... if you keep spouting the same ignorance... I'll keep giving you the same answer. If you keep evading dealing with this one, primary point... then I'll keep challenging you with it until you answer it or disappear. The main issue in this game for you isn't tradition, stadiums, crowds, etc though all of that is nice and a small factor. The main issue for USU is that both teams replace many starters from last year... and UT replaces them with more talented players than USU does.

If it was about talent, USC wouldn't have only beat us by 3 at home,

If Jones' seat is as hot as Kiffins' was and if he's lost his team somehow by the 1st game of the season... then this will be relevant.

Wisconsin by 2 on a last second FG,

Didn't watch the game and find Big 10 football so boring that I seldom watch it. The only thing I DO know about that particular Wisconsin team is that in 8 games, they beat YOU (a mid-major), Nebraska, an FCS team, and 5 teams with losing records and a combined record of 21-41... IOW's, there's very little proof that they were a very good Wisconsin team.

Auburn on a miracle 10 point comeback with under 2 mins left.

An Auburn team that had lost Newton... who gave them their success? An Auburn team coached by Chizik whose only success came riding Newton's and Malzahn's coatails? He was one of the most incompetent coaches the SEC has seen in about 40 years.

All 3 of those teams had 4/5 star guys, and more success than Tennessee in recent years.

Wisconsin doesn't sign alot of 4/5* players. In the 4 classes previous to your game with them, they had signed 13 total. Jones has signed 23 in his first two classes plus the holdovers.

You keep bringing up recent success which is the least relevant of all the arguments being made. Both teams have had coaching changes. Both teams will have many new starters. In addition to that, UT has played a FAR more difficult schedule than YOU or Wisconsin for that matter.

If it was about scouting site star rankings, you guys would've beaten USA by more than a touchdown. And not lost to Oregon by 45 points (you probably have more 4 star guys than them), Vandy by 4, Missouri by 28.

True... but still little relevance to how your DB's match up against UT's CURRENT WR corps or O in the second year in Jones' system...

Keep spouting out about all that talent (it's not getting you anywhere), sue USU fans if we aren't shaking in our boots before playing such a great 5-7 SEC team!

As long as you keep trying to dismiss or evade the talent disparity... and keep trying to set up strawmen... I'll be here.

 

[sjt18]

Don't dismiss that Hill guy. Remember that little Asian guy on the Montana team? I have never seen an Asian move so fast outside of a martial arts mat. Guy was little but could scoot. Scored on us, you recall?
Heat and humidity are a factor but I think the USU boys breathe air at a higher altitude. So they'll have access to more oxygen in Knoxville. Just saying don't assume too much, it can whirl around and bite off your nose. But don't worry, The Butch will have our boys taking out a lot of frustrations and more first game day.

==Sung to the tune of I heard it on the Grapevines==

"People say believe half of what you see,
son, and none of what you hear.
I can't help bein' confused"

--Marvin Gaye--

Don't mistake me dismissing their fans' delusion for dismissing their players. I am aware that USU has players that can hurt UT and especially if the coaches don't plan effectively for them. But the raw, in your face, bald truth is that UT has better athletes and more of them. These guys keep trying to dance around that fact... And you know me. If someone starts evading points of fact, I have a hard time letting go.