UT under potential NCAA investigation for NIL

[Volfan2012]

 

[aRmo]

we need Greg Sankey to make a statement on our side... he's too quiet

Im sure thats coming. Once he says "The SEC stands with Tennessee" thats a wrap.

 

[Volbrando]

Im sure thats coming. Once he says "The SEC stands with Tennessee" thats a wrap.

That’s why he needs to come out

 

[volbound1700]

Wow Josh Pate really sh1t on the NCAA in this video.

 

[AllThingsTN]

Sorry if already posted. Here’s what Josh Pate had to say about this:

 

[Godfatha]

The NCAA is just hastening their own demise, and I love it. That corrupt, selective enforcing, hypocritical organization needs to go away.

 

[Volbrando]

I hope other schools stand with us cause the ncaa will be coming for them too

 

[butchna]

They can, and probably will, but that doesn't address the elephant in the room.

That committee, if it doesn't compensate players, will be in violation of Federal Antitrust Law.

That committee, if it does compensate players, will be a pro sports league.

Minutiae covering all the bases can be worked out in a nanosecond. There may be a lawyer in the whole bunch.

 

[Zues1]

I hope other schools stand with us cause the ncaa will be coming for them too

They'll probably sit and watch to see how this falls out.
If Tennessee gets castrated the next school will pull other schools into the fray.

 

[SayUWantAreVOLution]

Maybe college football finally gets recognized as what it really is G-league for the NFL.

The sad thing is: lots of colleges cannot afford to pay football and basketball players, much less when other sports sue to be treated equally and paid also.

Athletes won't have scholarship opportunities if other sports are dropped because schools can't afford non-revenue sports. Non elite athletes won't be able to play football because how is a small school going to be able to pay them?

Removing the revenue sports from the colleges removes UT Vols to the Knoxville Vols, who rent Neyland, the Power T, etc from the school.

Does that sound wonderful? Not to me.

 

[midtnvol2]

NCAA in a desperate attempt to hang on to some level of power and control. We need to file a major law suit back at the NCAA

 

[jp1]

That’s why he needs to come out

He needs Alabama to tell him it's okay first.

 

[SayUWantAreVOLution]

Minutiae covering all the bases can be worked out in a nanosecond. There may be a lawyer in the whole bunch.

If it could, the NCAA and/or SEC, B1G, etc would have worked it out.

I'm skeptical there's a solution. It's VERY MUCH in the NCAA's financial interest and the financial interest of schools making huge media money to get this worked out ASAP.

Yet, no one has suggested a solution that isn't a pro-lite league formation.

 

[butchna]

If it could, the NCAA and/or SEC, B1G, etc would have worked it out.

I'm skeptical there's a solution. It's VERY MUCH in the NCAA's financial interest and the financial interest of schools making huge media money to get this worked out ASAP.

Yet, no one has suggested a solution that isn't a pro-lite league formation.

Money isn’t dependent on the NCAA swooping in and threatening Steve Alford’s eligibility because he participated in a charity calendar. Big 10 could have ruled on that and shot it where it belongs without the spectacle. The SEC suspended Bruce Pearl from the first six games of the season outside of the NCAA’s behest…easy speazy. And it was the CONFERENCE that investigated Jauan Jennings for that sideline scrum against Vandy which led to him missing the first part of the bowl game. Conferences have the mainframe and structure to make their own unfair decisions. They don’t need the stuffed suits in Indianapolis.

 

[butchna]

They can, and probably will, but that doesn't address the elephant in the room.

That committee, if it doesn't compensate players, will be in violation of Federal Antitrust Law.

That committee, if it does compensate players, will be a pro sports league.

You seriously believe they’ve been Joe Colleges from ole State U?

 

[HooahVol]

I am watching the stages of grief here. First, Denial. Now:

Next should be bargaining.

 

[BigALWiLson]

I am watching the stages of grief here. First, Denial. Now:

Next should be bargaining.

LOL UT wont be bargaining on this. The NCAA really showed their stuipidity in this case. When you have State AG's filing lawsuits your ass is on a silver platter

 

[ButchPlz]

I am watching the stages of grief here. First, Denial. Now:

Next should be bargaining.

Tell me you can't read without telling me you can't read.

 

[DooleyOrangePants]

I think they are trying to use this to get Congress to move on legislation that will benefit them. They know after SCOTUS they are in no man’s land.

Congress can pass legislation on this stuff, but if you’ve read the SCOTUS decisions and some of the justices comments, particularly Kavanaugh,any attempt to legislate around this is as good as dead on arrival. 9-0 on the Alston case, so it’s not a split decision down ideological lines. You can’t mess with antitrust and interstate commerce and that’s exactly what the NCAA is trying to do. It’s a non-starter.


Maybe they want Congress to do something symbolic, but you are talking about a Congress that is not going to upset their constituents by sticking their nose in this mess. You want to talk about a landscape shift - let them get involved and it screw a university that has a lot of support and fan base or moreover a conference as a whole - there will be a tidal shift from incumbents to newcomers on either side of the aisle for those that think it’s a good idea to meddle in this.

 

[SayUWantAreVOLution]

Money isn’t dependent on the NCAA swooping in and threatening Steve Alford’s eligibility because he participated in a charity calendar. Big 10 could have ruled on that and shot it where it belongs without the spectacle. The SEC suspended Bruce Pearl from the first six games of the season outside of the NCAA’s behest…easy speazy. And it was the CONFERENCE that investigated Jauan Jennings for that sideline scrum against Vandy which led to him missing the first part of the bowl game. Conferences have the mainframe and structure to make their own unfair decisions. They don’t need the stuffed suits in Indianapolis.

The problem remains: interstate commerce is controlled by Federal Antitrust Law. If TN never plays outside of the state, sure...... abide by state laws and let's go.

If TN plays vs GA, the players become subject to Federal Antitrust jurisdiction. Alston v NCAA already suggested the entire "student-athlete" model isn't workable and will lose in court. The SEC is just as subject to Federal law as the NCAA.

Without that, GA can just pass laws that paying players is fine, players staying until they're 35-40yo is fine, etc and the SEC can't do anything either. It's chaos to allow each state to have vastly different laws when it comes to commerce because each state just tries to "out screw" the other states.

 

[I4Vols]

He will actually conference knows where this goes and it’s not just after Tennessee

I'm not so convinced he will unless a sacred cow is in the NCAA's sights.

The NCAA is not going to look into Texas or Texas A&M given the risk of really big money backing those schools. And you cannot compare the fever of that backing with the Big10 and even Michigan, although we basically saw Harbaugh say screw you NCAA.

 

[SayUWantAreVOLution]

You seriously believe they’ve been Joe Colleges from ole State U?

No. Not at all. It's been dirty for decades. Players have been being paid for a long time.

The problem is the SCOTUS is about to be involved and declare players employees.

That destroys the athletic department at small schools, most schools actually, and essentially forces a switch to a pro league.

UT and others are faced with the questions: Do we want to own a pro sports organization? Should a college own a pro sports organization? How are we going to pay the tennis team? Is this worth the trouble? Aren't we an educational institution?

 

[butchna]

The problem remains: interstate commerce is controlled by Federal Antitrust Law. If TN never plays outside of the state, sure...... abide by state laws and let's go.

If TN plays vs GA, the players become subject to Federal Antitrust jurisdiction. Alston v NCAA already suggested the entire "student-athlete" model isn't workable and will lose in court. The SEC is just as subject to Federal law as the NCAA.

Without that, GA can just pass laws that paying players is fine, players staying until their 35-40yo is fine, etc and the SEC can't do anything either. It's chaos to allow each state to have vastly different laws when it comes to commerce because each state just tries to "out screw" the other states.

Conference agreements trump all that. You’re interjecting doomsday scenarios when there’s billions of dollars that says sanity prevails.

 

[Halph66]

we need Greg Sankey to make a statement on our side... he's too quiet

Snakey ain’t gonna get involved until we win. Then he’ll beat his chest.

 

[DaddyChad]

I'm not so convinced he will unless a sacred cow is in the NCAA's sights.

The NCAA is not going to look into Texas or Texas A&M given the risk of really big money backing those schools. And you cannot compare the fever of that backing with the Big10 and even Michigan, although we basically saw Harbaugh say screw you NCAA.

Again you’re not seeing the end here. This isn’t about Tennessee it’s about NIL. Tennessee is just the highest profile target that the NCAA had the most leverage on. It does not end with Tennessee. Any program that benefitted from nil is a target.