UT under potential NCAA investigation for NIL

[SayUWantAreVOLution]

If the use of a plane was a donation to Spyre, then it’s all legal.

This is 100% the NCAA’s fault. They refused to issue any guideline. Im sure people with close athletic department connections, know better than me, but I was told we reached out to the NCAA for guidance and they didn’t respond.

I don't doubt for a second that the NCAA left it vague or misled the AD. The AD does these visits routinely, so I'm sure they avoid issues.

The underlying issue is who is talking, who is bringing things up to the NCAA, etc. That needs to be dealt with.

As for the flight being a donation to Spyre and that making it legal, there'd better be a solid trail showing that donation.

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

Sankey will never support Tn in any way because he is under complete control by the Alabama mafia,

Wrong. He was in our side with Pruitt and he wil
Be on our side in this. Sankey has never been controlled by Bama.

 

[supersmo18]

Was that Jack Sparrow at 0:20?

I was too busy listening to what she said and didn’t even notice that, that is hilarious

 

[BP4Prez]

Nothing like grown men throwing out racist comments on live radio.

 

[DaddyChad]

Nothing like grown men throwing out racist comments on live radio.

I mean I could see them getting some heat for that but let’s be honest no one gives a damn about Wetzel or Forde enough to bother. Dellenger looked real uncomfortable during that little bit of audio.

 

[DaddyChad]

After hearing the TN AG on some programs we can say this isn’t going away. This basically is the NCAA’s hill they’ve chosen to die on. NCAA wants athletes to be forced to sign with a program then negotiate NIL afterwards.

 

[chuckiepoo]

Did Donde and Boyd invest in Dr. Pepper’s transfer portal commercial?

 

[chuckiepoo]

After hearing the TN AG on some programs we can say this isn’t going away. This basically is the NCAA’s hill they’ve chosen to die on. NCAA wants athletes to be forced to sign with a program then negotiate NIL afterwards.

Yes sir. Thats definitely a restrictive practice.

 

[kcvols1]

I was too busy listening to what she said and didn’t even notice that, that is hilarious

IKR?!?

Was there a production of Pirates of Penzance today?

Is he in some sort of club?

Is his Optimist moored at Volunteer Landing?

So many questions!!

 

[DaddyChad]

I was too busy listening to what she said and didn’t even notice that, that is hilarious

No doubt coming to offer the NCAA’s opinion

 

[supersmo18]

IKR?!?

Was there a production of Pirates of Penzance today?

Is he in some sort of club?

Is his Optimist moored at Volunteer Landing?

So many questions!!

I read someone’s comment earlier that he goes by “The Pirate Nick” and always stays in character, goes around campus each day like this

 

[Volbrando]

One question we also need to answer in all of this, who is out to get TN because I guarantee you go to most if not all top 25 college football teams and will find the same things

 

[cherokeeeVOL]

One question we also need to answer in all of this, who is out to get TN because I guarantee you go to most if not all top 25 college football teams and will find the same things

The NCAA is going after the big fish in NIL and UT happens to be one of them. Georgia, Ohio State, Bama and others didn't get out on the forefront of NIL because they still had their good ole boy system of old to pay their players or whatever they've always done in the background.

 

[strkr]

The NCAA is going after the big fish in NIL and UT happens to be one of them. Georgia, Ohio State, Bama and others didn't get out on the forefront of NIL because they still had their good ole boy system of old to pay their players or whatever they've always done in the background.

Yea under the table crap. Everything is on the table these days and that is why nickie threw his hissy fit against Jimbo and ya see where nick is now. He gone.

 

[rjd970]

You are wrong. It has nothing to do with NIL activity.

It has to do with UT scheduling recruiting activities on an unofficial visit that was not paid for by a recruit’s family or legal guardian. Nico could have visited campus and that would have been fine. But once UT scheduled recruiting activities, it was against NCAA rules.

As I said, if he had a paid for choir competition in Knoxville, UT could not schedule recruiting activities. Unofficial visits have to be paid for by the recruit’s family. Otherwise it is an official visit. And Nico had an official visit two weeks later. Recruits can have only one official visit per school.

Has it been proven it was a “scheduled” visit by UT? Perhaps Nico called and said “I’m going to be in town next week, the collective I’m in talks with is flying me in and I would like to stop by for a discussion and tour”.

What is UT supposed to do, say no? Would Bama, UGA, Michigan, etc do anything different? Why isn’t the NCAA doing the same to them or any other school where this is standard operating practice?

At the end of the day there isn’t going to be any paper trail or proof, just like with any other school that bends the rules just enough without breaking them. This feels very selective and targeted, and if the NCAA wants to flex its muscles we are simply saying the courts are going to arbitrate this. Again, as DP said, we are open and honest and have proven to be the model of cooperation by the NCAA’s own words.

In this case UT is saying we haven’t done a thing wrong and if you disagree you will have to legally prove it, so lawyer up.

 

[jasonvol18]

Wrong. He was in our side with Pruitt and he wil
Be on our side in this. Sankey has never been controlled by Bama.

Exactly! I've said this numerous times. The business he's in, it doesn't benefit him to side with 1 team. He needs all the SEC Bluebloids to be good. People saying he is a bammer and is against TN are idiots.

 

[JoeMiltonsAgent]

Nothing like grown men throwing out racist comments on live radio.

And these jackasses expect us to take anything they say or print as serious journalism?

 

[rjd970]

Wrong. He was in our side with Pruitt and he wil
Be on our side in this. Sankey has never been controlled by Bama.

Yet, Sankey is still silent on this to my knowledge. Would love for this to be true and he come out and say it publicly.

 

[Dadof2Vols]

The simple fact is, the NCAA has always been powerless to prevent people from entering into contracts. They basically for years tried to rake in billions and pay nothing. It blew up in their face in the 9-0 ruling and the Kavanaugh letter let them know how future rulings would go with them trying to prevent people from earning money.

The next step after this is collective bargaining and salary caps as member institutions have to divide the pie with players.

But salary caps won’t stop NIL.

You LEGALLY can’t set a cap on NIL, show me one Pro sport that does it?

NIL is owned by players and they can sell their NIL for whatever they want, read 9-0 SCOTUS ruling.

I do not get why people keep suggesting a cap when it ain’t LEGAL and won’t change the NIL mess unless STUPID players agree to it.

You can set a cap on pay in a collective bargaining situation but you would still have an uncapped NIL.

 

[Dadof2Vols]

I don't doubt for a second that the NCAA left it vague or misled the AD. The AD does these visits routinely, so I'm sure they avoid issues.

The underlying issue is who is talking, who is bringing things up to the NCAA, etc. That needs to be dealt with.

As for the flight being a donation to Spyre and that making it legal, there'd better be a solid trail showing that donation.

Funny/sad thing in this is the NCAA set the whole stage for violations by saying the universities were not suppose to be talking to collectives.

Therefore if you can’t coordinate how was AD supposed to prevent infractions by collectives.

 

[CAVPUT]

One question we also need to answer in all of this, who is out to get TN because I guarantee you go to most if not all top 25 college football teams and will find the same things

I'm on the conspiracy theory's wall of fame so take my comments with a grain of unadulterated sea salt.

The NCAA can't be this stupid. They know the courts will side with the schools and the athletes so what's the real goal here? The real goal. When I look at Nico's recruiting and who his favorites were, I see a familiar name....Alabama. They just lost their legendary coach. Kids are bailing right and left. What a boost to their program and the new coach if they were able to be the landing spot if Nico were ruled ineligible or if things were so unsettled after the spring that he decided just to move on and transferred to bama. You know they'd pay him at least as much as we are right now if he'd listen. It would cripple us next year and vault them back into prominence. What bammer wouldn't give his left testicle for such a deal?

Now let's assume that's too far out in left field and just plain silly. You know what else it does? It puts the same old negative spotlight right back on our program in recruiting AND if we have players worried enough, it tempts them with the spring portal. Even if the NCAA gets spanked in court, where does the lasting damage fall? Not on the NCAA. No, it's meant to harm our recruiting and weaken our roster. Hell, the NCAA could do that as a favor to bama and face virtually nothing in terms of cost especially if they just manage to drag this whole thing out through the next portal window and into the summer. Until the court date, it doesn't bother the NCAA one little bit to sit back and let this whole thing simmer. UT coaches are busy coaching and recruiting which is tough enough. Now they have to go back to putting out the negative recruiting fires as well.

No, this wasn't just UT being low hanging fruit. This has bama influence written all over it. Yeah, I'm an OG and go back to the real slim filled days, but bama is still bama and while they aren't catching UGA anytime soon, they'll certainly be focused on taking any team within arms reach on the pecking order down if they can.

 

[Carp]

After hearing the TN AG on some programs we can say this isn’t going away. This basically is the NCAA’s hill they’ve chosen to die on. NCAA wants athletes to be forced to sign with a program then negotiate NIL afterwards.

Yeah, that isn't going to happen. Especially in states where NIL is already legalized for high school athletes. There is literally no difference in a high school athlete signing a NIL deal with Nike and signing a NIL deal with Spyre.

Now perhaps the NCAA can end these "partnerships" that schools have NILs, but that isn't really going to do anything either. Everyone already knows which NIL collective is associated with each school.

 

[joevol33]

 

[Carp]

I'm on the conspiracy theory's wall of fame so take my comments with a grain of unadulterated sea salt.

The NCAA can't be this stupid. They know the courts will side with the schools and the athletes so what's the real goal here? The real goal. When I look at Nico's recruiting and who his favorites were, I see a familiar name....Alabama. They just lost their legendary coach. Kids are bailing right and left. What a boost to their program and the new coach if they were able to be the landing spot if Nico were ruled ineligible or if things were so unsettled after the spring that he decided just to move on and transferred to bama. You know they'd pay him at least as much as we are right now if he'd listen. It would cripple us next year and vault them back into prominence. What bammer wouldn't give his left testicle for such a deal?

Now let's assume that's too far out in left field and just plain silly. You know what else it does? It puts the same old negative spotlight right back on our program in recruiting AND if we have players worried enough, it tempts them with the spring portal. Even if the NCAA gets spanked in court, where does the lasting damage fall? Not on the NCAA. No, it's meant to harm our recruiting and weaken our roster. Hell, the NCAA could do that as a favor to bama and face virtually nothing in terms of cost especially if they just manage to drag this whole thing out through the next portal window and into the summer. Until the court date, it doesn't bother the NCAA one little bit to sit back and let this whole thing simmer. UT coaches are busy coaching and recruiting which is tough enough. Now they have to go back to putting out the negative recruiting fires as well.

No, this wasn't just UT being low hanging fruit. This has bama influence written all over it. Yeah, I'm an OG and go back to the real slim filled days, but bama is still bama and while they aren't catching UGA anytime soon, they'll certainly be focused on taking any team within arms reach on the pecking order down if they can.

It's more likely that Alabama will be implicated in this as well, which could be a reason why Saban decided he was done with all of it.

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

So this is one of the tool bags who got this crap started? Low life trash. And to think these are supposed to be respected reporters. Makes me sick. I hope Pat Forde gets sexually violated by an angry moose.