UTAD cutting band funding/involvement? (Merged)

#526
#526
Orange Blazer said:
Your point is irrelevant because nothing significant is changing with the band. The reasons you mentioned for loving college football, the pageantry, aren't changing at Tennessee. You would be the one continuing to argue for no reason.
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The point I made, if you read the post, was that the experience you had in Neyland on Saturday was not exclusive to games with piped in music. It was a rebuttal to your notion that Saturday was awesome because of the music and the lack of music has been the issue recently.

In reality, the stadium has rocked for far longer in the 80's, 90's, and the early 2000's. Before the change in music.

If you've read my posts instead of arguing just for the sake of it, you would see that I actually agree with much of what you were saying.
 
#527
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Nashvol2 said:
The point I made, if you read the post, was that the experience you had in Neyland on Saturday was not exclusive to games with piped in music. It was rebuttal to your notion that Saturday was awesome because of the music and the lack of music has been the issue recently.

In reality, the stadium has rocked for far longer in the 80's, 90's, and the early 2000's. Before the change in music.

If you've read my posts instead of arguing just for the sake of it, you would see that I actually agree with much of what you were saying.
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Ok pumpkin.
 
#528
#528
DC Vol said:
Well, she had some spelling issues in there (threated) and inconsistencies of capitalization (capitalizing Vol Walk, PotS but not Athletic Department). The AD is an organization and deserves just as much recognition as the PotS does, certainly. That's bad, at least in my book, if you're trying to draft up something that gets a large amount of attention... especially if you're doing so as the Drum Major representing a national University. It looks thrown together and unchecked.

Apart from that, this thing is laced with hyperbole. No actual facts are presented... just conjecture. It honestly reads like a "FW: FW: FW: FW: FW: FW: FW: FW:" e-mail that has a lot of pomp and no circumstance.

And yes, that was a pun.
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Oh I agree that it wasn't well written. I was just curious as to why you thought it was unprofessional. Other than the fact that it was poorly written.
 
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#529
#529
Orange Blazer said:
How many "fans" would come to see them play without football?
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My thoughts exactly.... "Band concert next Saturday, expected attendance 100k"..... ... Sure, I like the music on the airwaves more than what the band plays.... But Saturday games in k-town wouldn't seem right without the band blaring rocky top all day.
 
#530
#530
UTAD: We're going to have to cut your travel expenses some. Taking the entire 330-member band and their equipment on road trips is no longer financially doable. Additionally, the SEC is deciding if even pep bands are allowed.

BAND: THEY'RE CUTTING OUR FUNDING ENTIRELY!

UTAD: Not really, but okay. Also, we'd like you to change up your music selection some. We got a lot of positive feedback from the team/visitors about the more modern selection of music. Your constant repetitions of the Gladiator theme and Livin' on a Prayer (which is more patronizing to our own team than anything else) are completely stale. Time to change things some.

BAND: THEY WANT TO KILL OUR TRADITIONS.

UTAD: Wait, what? We didn't say that. Finally, we will have a DJ play small selections of music. This is by request of the team and is done around many programs. This is an effort to keep ourselves abreast of the changing times.

BAND: WE'RE BEING REPLACED! DRUM MAJOR! TIME TO TAKE THIS TO THE INTERNET!

UTAD: We're keeping up with SEC mandates and the times as well as trying to find new ways to monetize our brand. We're in dire straights, we need money.

BAND: ROCKY TOP YOU'LL ALWAYS BE HOME SWEET HOME TO ME! SMOKEY MOUNTAINS! FOOTBALL! EMOTIONAL TIES THAT HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH YOUR MEMO!

UTAD: FML.
 
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DC Vol said:
UTAD: We're going to have to cut your travel expenses some. Taking the entire 330-member band and their equipment on road trips is no longer financially doable. Additionally, the SEC is deciding if even pep bands are allowed.

BAND: THEY'RE CUTTING OUR FUNDING ENTIRELY!

UTAD: Not really, but okay. Also, we'd like you to change up your music selection some. We got a lot of positive feedback from the team/visitors about the more modern selection of music. Your constant repetitions of the Gladiator theme and Livin' on a Prayer (which is more patronizing to our own team than anything else) are completely stale. Time to change things some.

BAND: THEY WANT TO KILL OUR TRADITIONS.

UTAD: Wait, what? We didn't say that. Finally, we will have a DJ play small selections of music. This is by request of the team and is done around many programs. This is an effort to keep ourselves abreast of the changing times.

BAND: WE'RE BEING REPLACED! DRUM MAJOR! TIME TO TAKE THIS TO THE INTERNET!

UTAD: We're keeping up with SEC mandates and the times as well as trying to find new ways to monetize our brand. We're in dire straights, we need money.

BAND: ROCKY TOP YOU'LL ALWAYS BE HOME SWEET HOME TO ME! SMOKEY MOUNTAINS! FOOTBALL! EMOTIONAL TIES THAT HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH YOUR MEMO!

UTAD: FML.
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To be fair, DeerPark, within the AD, has said that it is going to be a very drastic change to the amount of playing time during the game.
 
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DC Vol said:
Well, she had some spelling issues in there (threated) and inconsistencies of capitalization (capitalizing Vol Walk, PotS but not Athletic Department). The AD is an organization and deserves just as much recognition as the PotS does, certainly. That's bad, at least in my book, if you're trying to draft up something that gets a large amount of attention... especially if you're doing so as the Drum Major representing a national University. It looks thrown together and unchecked.

Apart from that, this thing is laced with hyperbole. No actual facts are presented... just conjecture. It honestly reads like a "FW: FW: FW: FW: FW: FW: FW: FW:" e-mail that has a lot of pomp and no circumstance.

And yes, that was a pun.
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Bingo.

Plus, there are no facts listed, i.e., references. It feels like a political propaganda commercial. Show me proof of the allegations. #1 (no bands travelling) is an SEC deal, not a Tennessee deal, if it's even true. #2 is hearsay; show me where the AD is proposing Rocky Top and only Rocky Top. #3 is an entitlement issue -- Aw, the Pride wants to be the ONLY music entity in the stadium. Sorry, but even I (a 4-year member and 2-year squad leader) can agree that the Pride can share the dead-ball periods with a can of music or more jumbotron videos.

To the students: Maybe if they would show up to the game en masse currently, their ticket allottment might not be in jeopardy.

To the Alumni: Show me where the AD is taking away the Alma Mater from halftime.

To the Fans: "the band is there before the team arrives and after the team leaves" -- The band is where? The stadium? Nope. Pre-game practice? Doubt it, even for the 6am saturday morning rehearsals. After the team leaves the stadium? Nope, there's a party to get to.

I just think, like DC said, if you're going to represent the University, and the Pride, especially as the leadership symbol of the Pride as the Drum Major, and you're going to solicit signatures on a petition, you better come harder than this, with indisputable facts.

It's just a poor effort, and I'll say, even as a alum, I did not sign it.
 
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crusse10 said:
To be fair, DeerPark, within the AD, has said that it is going to be a very drastic change to the amount of playing time during the game.
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So instead of hearing the gladiator theme 15x we'll now only hear it 5x?

That's a win in my book.

Until the UTAD cuts out the pre-game (Vol Walk, running through the T, etc) and actually does want them to cut out FVF and DTF... they can cut the "tradition" crap.

Their overplayed and tired songlist is not a UT tradition.
 
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DC Vol said:
UTAD: We're going to have to cut your travel expenses some. Taking the entire 330-member band and their equipment on road trips is no longer financially doable. Additionally, the SEC is deciding if even pep bands are allowed.

BAND: THEY'RE CUTTING OUR FUNDING ENTIRELY!

UTAD: Not really, but okay. Also, we'd like you to change up your music selection some. We got a lot of positive feedback from the team/visitors about the more modern selection of music. Your constant repetitions of the Gladiator theme and Livin' on a Prayer (which is more patronizing to our own team than anything else) are completely stale. Time to change things some.

BAND: THEY WANT TO KILL OUR TRADITIONS.

UTAD: Wait, what? We didn't say that. Finally, we will have a DJ play small selections of music. This is by request of the team and is done around many programs. This is an effort to keep ourselves abreast of the changing times.

BAND: WE'RE BEING REPLACED! DRUM MAJOR! TIME TO TAKE THIS TO THE INTERNET!

UTAD: We're keeping up with SEC mandates and the times as well as trying to find new ways to monetize our brand. We're in dire straights, we need money.

BAND: ROCKY TOP YOU'LL ALWAYS BE HOME SWEET HOME TO ME! SMOKEY MOUNTAINS! FOOTBALL! EMOTIONAL TIES THAT HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH YOUR MEMO!

UTAD: FML.
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You forgot to "Woo."
I guess that no one else noticed that UGA only bought maybe 40 band members to the game Saturday???
I did, that's why I posted this.
Carry on.
 
#545
#545
crusse10 said:
For years, you could look at the Pride in the stands at Neyland and feel the apathy. There was no caring. Half-assed, cappy hornflashes by half of the band during half of the crappy songs for upwards of a decade? Sit there acting apathetic for that long and suddenly the AD is gonna have to make a change to put life back into the music in Neyland.
The Pride shows that it doesn't care about in-stand playing for years, then suddenly cares so much once that privilege is revoked. Devote more time and more effort to playing better in the stands: better songs with more excitement, less apathy, and more flashes.
THAT'S how you save the Pride. Raise the bar. Excite the fans. Don't ride the coattails of the fans that are excited in spite of you.
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I will rehash this from earlier today. This doesn't go into effect until next year. If the Pride wants to stop the between-play revocation, get better. Be exciting. Make the AD understand, by your enthusiasm, that this is the wrong decision. Give Neyland the feel of Death Valley's interaction between the Golden Band and their fans and this decision will be reversed.
 
#546
#546
Does our stadium have the acoustics to play speaker music well? I know when I was there last year our sound system sounded like it was still back in 1950. As long as we are still marching through the T and have Rocky Top after big plays I am cool with it.
 
#547
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AndyMizunogolfer said:
Does our stadium have the acoustics to play speaker music well? I know when I was there last year our sound system sounded like it was still back in 1950. As long as we are still marching through the T and have Rocky Top after big plays I am cool with it.
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I think they are still using Sparkomatic speakers from 1985.
 
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DC Vol said:
UTAD: We're going to have to cut your travel expenses some. Taking the entire 330-member band and their equipment on road trips is no longer financially doable. Additionally, the SEC is deciding if even pep bands are allowed.

BAND: THEY'RE CUTTING OUR FUNDING ENTIRELY!

UTAD: Not really, but okay. Also, we'd like you to change up your music selection some. We got a lot of positive feedback from the team/visitors about the more modern selection of music. Your constant repetitions of the Gladiator theme and Livin' on a Prayer (which is more patronizing to our own team than anything else) are completely stale. Time to change things some.

BAND: THEY WANT TO KILL OUR TRADITIONS.

UTAD: Wait, what? We didn't say that. Finally, we will have a DJ play small selections of music. This is by request of the team and is done around many programs. This is an effort to keep ourselves abreast of the changing times.

BAND: WE'RE BEING REPLACED! DRUM MAJOR! TIME TO TAKE THIS TO THE INTERNET!

UTAD: We're keeping up with SEC mandates and the times as well as trying to find new ways to monetize our brand. We're in dire straights, we need money.

BAND: ROCKY TOP YOU'LL ALWAYS BE HOME SWEET HOME TO ME! SMOKEY MOUNTAINS! FOOTBALL! EMOTIONAL TIES THAT HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH YOUR MEMO!

UTAD: FML.
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Bravo! :clapping::good!::clapping::thumbsup::salute:
 
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