Vaccine or not?

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InVOLuntary said:
Don't forget the RSV. They're pushing that now too.
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Hold on…..
My 22 year old was born 10 weeks early he was high risk RSV and received the vaccine as a child. He was freaking bulletproof as a kid. Anecdotal evidence but he’s never been sick. Not a cold….not the flu….nothing. Never.

All Vaccines are not bad.
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
Hold on…..
My 22 year old was born 10 weeks early he was high risk RSV and received the vaccine as a child. He was freaking bulletproof as a kid. Anecdotal evidence but he’s never been sick. Not a cold….not the flu….nothing. Never.

All Vaccines are not bad.
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I agree but I'm not sure this is the same vaccine. They're pushing it on older adults now. It's by Pfizer so I question anything by Pfizer. I'm not sure it's the dead virus now. I could be wrong though. I'm not antivax but I'm anti mRNA.
 
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InVOLuntary said:
I agree but I'm not sure this is the same vaccine. They're pushing it on older adults now. It's by Pfizer so I question anything by Pfizer. I'm not sure it's the dead virus now. I could be wrong though. I'm not antivax but I'm anti mRNA.
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Ya,
Im going to do some research on this.
I’ll tag you with what I find out.

To support you suspicions the vaccine for my son was very expensive 20 years ago. Like 1500$ a dose expensive
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
Hold on…..
My 22 year old was born 10 weeks early he was high risk RSV and received the vaccine as a child. He was freaking bulletproof as a kid. Anecdotal evidence but he’s never been sick. Not a cold….not the flu….nothing. Never.

All Vaccines are not bad.
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This is a new long- lasting monoclonal antibody vaccine and looks better than Synagis (the once a month antibody RSV shot that has been around for two decades).

Not a real "vaccine" per the usual definition, but the studies look good.
 
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kiddiedoc said:
I vaguely recall driving down to the kroger on Chapman highway for applesauce one day because I thought I was starving to death.
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One week after my surgery I had a buddy call me. He's a booster, car dealer. He asked me if I wanted to deliver the new Vol football head coach's complementary vehicle to campus. We didn't know who it was at the time but he was due in in just a couple of hours. I said sure and he was to meet me at my facility. He saw me and said "Are you sure you are ok?" I said "hell yeah, let's go!" Got to campus and stood around waiting with Jim Chaney and Lance Thompson, They claimed they didn't know who it was either. Then it started to leak that it was Dooley. So I take some of the blame for the Dooley debacle because I delivered him his new car.
 
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Certain Scientists, Journals Pose 'Potential Threats To Vaccine Confidence': CDC

Mr. Bernatzky has sociology degrees and has written that the "anti-vaccine movement is arguably one of the more concerning social movements to have surfaced during the first two decades of the current century." He has also alleged that support for former President Donald Trump is linked to "hate material."

The CDC regularly publishes and promotes papers that have not been peer-reviewed in its quasi-journal, Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report. In the full set of emails, which were obtained through the Freedom of Information Act, officials on multiple occasions used those papers to craft guidance to the public on COVID-19 vaccine safety.

The journals Vaccines and Food and Chemical Toxicology, which the CDC singled out for criticism, did not return requests for comment.
 
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EXCLUSIVE: Demand for 'Unvaxxed' Sperm spikes: Women are turning to shady Facebook groups looking for Donors Who Refused To Get the Covid Shot​


Anti-vaccine sentiment has infected almost every part of America after the Covid pandemic - from academia to politics.

But the anti-vax movement appears to have now have infiltrated the world of online sperm donation, where wannabe mothers seek out samples from men who refused to take the Covid shot.

Jonathan David Rinaldi, dubbed 'The Sperminator', was a prolific donor for years on the Facebook group Sperm Donation USA, the largest sperm donation group in America.

But after seeing a 'massive increase' in requests for sperm from unvaccinated donors, he broke off and started his own splinter group exclusively for the anti-vax.


The group has almost 250 members and has helped many people successfully start families. The members range from young professionals, gay couples to single women from both the US and the UK. Most offer their sperm for free.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Women turning to Facebook groups to find unvaccinated sperm donors

The anti-vax movement appears to have now have infiltrated the world of online sperm donation, where wannabe mothers seek out samples from men who refused to take the Covid shot.
www.dailymail.co.uk www.dailymail.co.uk
 
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Sgt_Nick_Fury said:
www.thegatewaypundit.com

Killer Jab: Nearly a Quarter of Americans Say They Know Someone Who Died From COVID-19 Shot | The Gateway Pundit | by Jim Hᴏft

A recent survey has revealed that nearly a quarter of Americans believe someone they know succumbed to side effects from the COVID-19 vaccine.
www.thegatewaypundit.com www.thegatewaypundit.com
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A guy I know loosely from online died a couple months ago at 37. He (and his doctors) insisted he had COVID-induced heart issues, but he didn't get COVID until after he started having symptoms of heart issues (palpitations, shortness of breath, etc.) just a week or so after his booster. I'm fairly sure he continued to get boosters up until right around his death from a massive heart attack.
 
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ButchPlz said:
A guy I know loosely from online died a couple months ago at 37. He (and his doctors) insisted he had COVID-induced heart issues, but he didn't get COVID until after he started having symptoms of heart issues (palpitations, shortness of breath, etc.) just a week or so after his booster. I'm fairly sure he continued to get boosters up until right around his death from a massive heart attack.
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The absolute denial by some people is unreal! I am absolutely open to the idea of the actual virus being the cause in some of these cases but how can any sane person say that the spike protein from covid is harmful and the vaccine is perfectly safe when it's a known fact that the vaccines have the same harmful spike protein. What happens when a vaccinated person gets covid? Are they getting a double dose of the spike protein?? It's also pretty telling that the majority of the time when you hear about a perfectly healthy individual "suddenly dying" 9 times out of 10 they have taken at least one dose of the covid vaccine.
 
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Carl Pickens said:
insurancenewsnet.com

‘Excess mortality’ continuing surge causes concerns

Life insurance executives and actuaries believe excess mortality rates are alarming and could continue to drag earnings for years to come.
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BigOrangMojo has mentioned insurance premiums as evidence that there is no increase in excess mortality (or something along those lines.) While we have vastly different opinions in regards to the safety of the MRNA Covid vaccine. @BigOrangeMojo I do respect your opinion given your expertise and I'd love to know your thoughts on this article. Apparantly there still is an increase in excess mortality and we are way past the pandemic now.

From the article:

From a life insurer's standpoint, and those dealing in retirement and long-term care solutions, there's a larger conversation at hand. Can the industry handle a sudden spike in claims? The surge in excess deaths caught carriers off guard, and our aging population is becoming more susceptible to illnesses or passing due to natural causes.”
Chow said there’s a real question of whether the insurance industry can sustain the enormous payouts the excess mortality rates will dictate.
“The real concern for life insurers lies in preparing for an unexpected wave of death claims and the impact on their assets under management,” she said. “Do they have enough reserves to weather these outflows, given the excess deaths? It's not just about death or health. It is about the industry's ability and readiness to manage this monumental outflow.”


Capgemini just published its World Life Insurance Report that revealed the upcoming largest inter-generational wealth transfer in history that is expected to cause a massive outflow of nearly 40% of life insurers’ assets under management (AUM), totaling $7.8 trillion, by 2040.
“When we factor in the rise of payouts on death claims, the magnitude of the situation demands urgent attention by the industry,” the report said.
 
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VolinWayne said:
BigOrangMojo has mentioned insurance premiums as evidence that there is no increase in excess mortality (or something along those lines.) While we have vastly different opinions in regards to the safety of the MRNA Covid vaccine. @BigOrangeMojo I do respect your opinion given your expertise and I'd love to know your thoughts on this article. Apparantly there still is an increase in excess mortality and we are way past the pandemic now.

From the article:

From a life insurer's standpoint, and those dealing in retirement and long-term care solutions, there's a larger conversation at hand. Can the industry handle a sudden spike in claims? The surge in excess deaths caught carriers off guard, and our aging population is becoming more susceptible to illnesses or passing due to natural causes.”
Chow said there’s a real question of whether the insurance industry can sustain the enormous payouts the excess mortality rates will dictate.
“The real concern for life insurers lies in preparing for an unexpected wave of death claims and the impact on their assets under management,” she said. “Do they have enough reserves to weather these outflows, given the excess deaths? It's not just about death or health. It is about the industry's ability and readiness to manage this monumental outflow.”


Capgemini just published its World Life Insurance Report that revealed the upcoming largest inter-generational wealth transfer in history that is expected to cause a massive outflow of nearly 40% of life insurers’ assets under management (AUM), totaling $7.8 trillion, by 2040.
“When we factor in the rise of payouts on death claims, the magnitude of the situation demands urgent attention by the industry,” the report said.
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I’ve been in meetings where this was discussed as well. It’s definitely a concern.
 
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@VolinWayne

A couple of comments

Overall, I have long had the opinion that the social impacts (murder, drugs, suicide) from lockdowns would kill more people under 50 than COVID (or vax) ever would. As detailed below, the numbers bear this out.

Ive long held that financial statement actuarial impacts, premium increase, and stock price would be best indicator of long-term vax issue. These companies are still trading near all-time highs, there has been no widespread actuarial adjustments (you are seeing some very targeted ones as detailed below) and premium increases are pretty much neglible.

Now to the article:

1. The point about payouts being 15 billion higher in 22 vs 19 is missing a couple key pieces of context. One, there was a half trillion increase in face value of policies. More policies = More payouts. Second, you had 250K CoVID deaths in 22 that you didn't have in 19. Those two items explain the increase in payouts.

2. As stated in the article, there is no standard for excess mortality. Both myself and Stirling, the anti vax guy, both calculated something close to 6.5%-7% over 2019 baseline for first 5 months of 2023 (it was nice to get to same figure). A couple things to point out about that. One, about half of that can be explained away due to COVID deaths. Second, this rate has decreased as 2023 has progressed; however, decrease in excess mortality is due to decrease in COVID deaths.

3. Even after taking out the COVID deaths, you still have about a 2.5-3% excess death rate in 23 vs 19 baseline. Taking it further, pretty much, this entire excess death rate is between ages 15-49. You will be looking at roughly 65-75k excess deaths in 23 over 19 baseline. So, what is causing that?

4. Murders and suicides are up. That's a small part of it. Drug overdoses are way up. From 2015-2019, fatal drug overdoses were 50-70K per yeae. In 2021 and 2022, it was 110K per year. This likely explains most of the excess deaths in 23.

5. In states with overdose problems (especially if underwriting a blue collar workforce), life insurance premiums finally nudged up in 2023 for those between 18-45. Still far less than inflation but a 1-2% nudge up nonetheless.
 
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