Vaccine or not?

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Sea Ray said:
I’m merely throwing it out there for discussion. I encourage health professionals to weigh in. From the sound of it, you needed a prescription for such a dose. That tells me that such a regime should not be done Willy nilly but would require medical supervision
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But that's always been the argument that people at lower risk should get vitamin d checked and if low get it into normal levels before taking extreme steps like the vax. Normal otc supplements I now take for it are 2-5k per day. If that's truly dangerous they wouldn't have thousands of bottles for sale at every retailer in the country
 
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utvolpj said:
But that's always been the argument that people at lower risk should get vitamin d checked and if low get it into normal levels before taking extreme steps like the vax. Normal otc supplements I now take for it are 2-5k per day. If that's truly dangerous they wouldn't have thousands of bottles for sale at every retailer in the country
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I’m with you for the most part but…..Phenylpropanolamine was on the market forever OTC and then ….ooops, it’s killing a lot of people. 2nd) potassium is available OTC but you should never take that without guidance. Now I’m a big time health nut and a fan of preventative maintenance like eating healthy and supplements but it should not be taken lightly.
 
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Measles is just one of the old time childhood ailments returning courtesy of the anti-vaxxers. Scarlet fever, mumps, chicken pox and more. You ain't seen nothing yet. The upside (MAYBE) is that the elitists' goal to reduce the world population to 500 million will be easier to achieve. Laugh as much as you want. You might, might, just might want to learn more about elite secret organizations such as Bohemian group. Want to talk New World Order? Conspiracy? Start with this group, though aren't the sole one, there's at least five similar groups sharing the same goals.
a. Inside the secretive elite men's society Bohemian Club that has rich and famous members who want to relive their wild college days
b. The Secret Society At “Bohemian Grove” Uncovered & Unmasked
 
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utvolpj said:
But that's always been the argument that people at lower risk should get vitamin d checked and if low get it into normal levels before taking extreme steps like the vax. Normal otc supplements I now take for it are 2-5k per day. If that's truly dangerous they wouldn't have thousands of bottles for sale at every retailer in the country
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2-5K/day is a totally different animal. Do we need to just have normal levels of Vit D in our blood or do we need much more in order to protect us from Covid?
 
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Sea Ray said:
2-5K/day is a totally different animal. Do we need to just have normal levels of Vit D in our blood or do we need much more in order to protect us from Covid?
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So 4200 vs 35000 is fine and not a different animal? At what level does the animal show its teeth?

What were the levels of the study participants? I'd start there
 
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Sea Ray said:
2-5K/day is a totally different animal. Do we need to just have normal levels of Vit D in our blood or do we need much more in order to protect us from Covid?
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I’m curious how many people actually know what is going on in their own body?
I have family history issues so I’m staying in front of everything. Blood work every 3 months and adjusting meds/vits accordingly. I’m willing to bet almost nobody else is doing that.
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
I’m curious how many people actually know what is going on in their own body?
I have family history issues so I’m staying in front of everything. Blood work every 3 months and adjusting meds/vits accordingly. I’m willing to bet almost nobody else is doing that.
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I have for the last 8 yrs because of thyroid issues

But what medical information is/was required to get the vax and boosters? Any special consultations, tests, etc?
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
I’m curious how many people actually know what is going on in their own body?
I have family history issues so I’m staying in front of everything. Blood work every 3 months and adjusting meds/vits accordingly. I’m willing to bet almost nobody else is doing that.
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I'm definitely not doing that. I do bloodwork about once a year.
 
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utvolpj said:
I have for the last 8 yrs because of thyroid issues

But what medical information is/was required to get the vax and boosters? Any special consultations, tests, etc?
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I don’t think there were. Just like the rest of the otc, each person should seek a qualified Dr they trust and make their own decisions. I’m positive that most who took the vaccine did not.
 
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utvolpj said:
So 4200 vs 35000 is fine and not a different animal? At what level does the animal show its teeth?

What were the levels of the study participants? I'd start there
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I'm not following where you got 35,000. Your earlier post referred to 80K:

Why would a single dose of 80000 be so concerning?
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I'm not qualified to give medical advice but we're missing a lot of details. Are we suggesting 80K or 35K? How often? Is the goal to bring you to normal Vit D blood levels or are we shooting for a much higher level? Do you know the answers to these questions? I don't
 
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Sea Ray said:
I'm not following where you got 35,000. Your earlier post referred to 80K:



I'm not qualified to give medical advice but we're missing a lot of details. Are we suggesting 80K or 35K? How often? Is the goal to bring you to normal Vit D blood levels or are we shooting for a much higher level? Do you know the answers to these questions? I don't
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You used the govt number and I used the available otc dose of 5k/day.

I took 50k for weeks with no issues and the study was a single dose of 80k. All are safer and more beneficial for the vast majority than the vax. Neither required any discussion with a dr
 
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utvolpj said:
You used the govt number and I used the available otc dose of 5k/day.

I took 50k for weeks with no issues and the study was a single dose of 80k. All are safer and more beneficial for the vast majority than the vax. Neither required any discussion with a dr
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OK, so you were referring to 35K in one week, not a bolus dose. That wasn't clear.

I'm sure a single dose of 80K requires a Rx, which would require a doctor's involvement.

As for this study that initiated our discussion, it referred to a bolus dose of 80K but I couldn't tell what to take out of it. How much do we need to show a statistically significant protection from Covid?

Personally I am under the age of 65 and in great health. When I'm going to be exposed (examples are long flights and festivals with crowds like an Oktoberfest) I take a gummy vitamin of Vit D, Zinc and Vit C (about a USDA daily recommended dose) a week before, plus some hydrogen peroxide rinses. Other than that, I'm relying on my immune system and that's fine with me. I'm done with Covid vaxes unless they prevent infection, which they don't currently. I'm also not anxious to take a mega dose of Vit D that's one or two hundred times a daily recommended amount
 
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Sea Ray said:
This is an interesting study but look at the doses they're talking about:



NIH recommends 600 IU of Vit D per day. Do the math and 80,000 is over 100x the daily recommended dosage. Who among you are going to be comfortable taking that kind of megadose and for how long? Even at 5,000 IU you're talking nearly 10X the daily recommended dose. I ain't doing that. How 'bout you?
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I was taking 10,000 IU of vitamin D daily from the summer of 2021 until this past December's doctor visit. I told him how much I was taking and he said it wouldn't hurt to double my dosage.
 
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Sea Ray said:
This is an interesting study but look at the doses they're talking about:



NIH recommends 600 IU of Vit D per day. Do the math and 80,000 is over 100x the daily recommended dosage. Who among you are going to be comfortable taking that kind of megadose and for how long? Even at 5,000 IU you're talking nearly 10X the daily recommended dose. I ain't doing that. How 'bout you?
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I take 5k per day. 600 does nothing.
 
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utvolpj said:
But that's always been the argument that people at lower risk should get vitamin d checked and if low get it into normal levels before taking extreme steps like the vax. Normal otc supplements I now take for it are 2-5k per day. If that's truly dangerous they wouldn't have thousands of bottles for sale at every retailer in the country
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What I take...

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Sea Ray said:
This is an interesting study but look at the doses they're talking about:



NIH recommends 600 IU of Vit D per day. Do the math and 80,000 is over 100x the daily recommended dosage. Who among you are going to be comfortable taking that kind of megadose and for how long? Even at 5,000 IU you're talking nearly 10X the daily recommended dose. I ain't doing that. How 'bout you?
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@kiddiedoc, how does the body metabolize vitamin D? Does it shed the excess or is it poison after to much?

I read a little. Hypercalcemia. That sounds like encouraging kidney stones to me. Not interested in that at all.
 
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