Vaccine or not?

[Rasputin_Vol]

Well, ole Fauci was a Trumpie cabinet member, so he must have learned lying from the master liar. Darn good student, wasn't he?

He was lying in the 1980s and 1990s about AIDS... so he had someone else tutoring him before Trump.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Huge win this week in the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals.

Judge Collins, in his concurring opinion states “a competent person has a constitutionally protected liberty interest in refusing unwanted medical treatment.”

The 9th Circuit today overturned a lower court decision that applied Jacobson. It said this:

Addressing the merits, the panel held that the district court misapplied the Supreme Court’s decision in Jacobson v. Massachusetts, 197 U.S. 11 (1905), in concluding that the Policy survived rational basis review. Jacobson held that mandatory vaccinations were rationally related to preventing the spread of smallpox. Here, however, plaintiffs allege that the vaccine does not effectively prevent spread but only mitigates symptoms for the recipient and therefore is akin to a medical treatment, not a “traditional” vaccine. Taking plaintiffs’ allegations as true at this stage of litigation, plaintiffs plausibly alleged that the COVID-19 vaccine does not effectively “prevent the spread” of COVID-19. Thus, Jacobson does not apply.

9th Circuit Rules Against LAUSD Vaccine Mandate

9th Circuit Court of Appeal rules against LAUSD, reopening lawsuit challenging COVID-era vaccine mandates, religious liberty

purposedrivenlawyers.com

Remember when people were suspended from Twitter for claiming that the mRNA jabs were not vaccines but were more like therapeutics. Yeah that really happened.

Some Are Claiming Covid-19 Vaccines Are Not Vaccines

Writer Alex Berenson recently tweeted out the following about the Covid-19 vaccines: “don’t think of it as a vaccine.”

www.forbes.com

For those that do not know, the map showing the 9th Circuit (or what was at one time called the 9th Circus). Very significant ruling.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

 

[ButchPlz]

The thing that baffles me is that we had so many people saying the mRNA treatment would stop the virus. Look in this thread. A cursory glance at data from states with high rates of application showed literally no difference (sometimes worse) in COVID rates.

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

I agree with this assessment. Firing Fauci would have done nothing. All that would have done is made him available for CNN/MSNBC to just give him unlimited airtime and made him a martyr.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

 

[BigOrangeMojo]

I agree with this assessment. Firing Fauci would have done nothing. All that would have done is made him available for CNN/MSNBC to just give him unlimited airtime and made him a martyr.

100% agree

 

[utvolpj]

I agree with this assessment. Firing Fauci would have done nothing. All that would have done is made him available for CNN/MSNBC to just give him unlimited airtime and made him a martyr.

He didn't have to fire Fauci. He just needed to not let him broadcast nightly on national TV from behind the presidential seal. Trump basically introduced him every night which essentially made Fauci's policies the WH policy. It was an absolute failure in leadership

 

[VolinWayne]

This analogy of the mRNA COVID vaccine is spot on

 

[VolinWayne]

History shows us that ignoring scientific evidence and quashing dissent isn’t good for technical advancement; something that a professor who also labels himself a “science warrior” on his own homepage probably ought to already know.

100 Reasons Why Ivermectin Works

Send this to everyone who still doubts the undeniable truth.

vigilantnews.com

 

[VolinWayne]

‘People’s Vaccine Inquiry’ Launched by Medics

A group of medics and professionals due to testify at the UK COVID-19 Inquiry says the public should not have to wait for safety information.

link.theepochtimes.com

Statements – Peoples Vaccine Inquiry

peoplesvaccineinquiry.co.uk

 

[85SugarVol]

Huge win this week in the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals.

Judge Collins, in his concurring opinion states “a competent person has a constitutionally protected liberty interest in refusing unwanted medical treatment.”

The 9th Circuit today overturned a lower court decision that applied Jacobson. It said this:

Addressing the merits, the panel held that the district court misapplied the Supreme Court’s decision in Jacobson v. Massachusetts, 197 U.S. 11 (1905), in concluding that the Policy survived rational basis review. Jacobson held that mandatory vaccinations were rationally related to preventing the spread of smallpox. Here, however, plaintiffs allege that the vaccine does not effectively prevent spread but only mitigates symptoms for the recipient and therefore is akin to a medical treatment, not a “traditional” vaccine. Taking plaintiffs’ allegations as true at this stage of litigation, plaintiffs plausibly alleged that the COVID-19 vaccine does not effectively “prevent the spread” of COVID-19. Thus, Jacobson does not apply.

9th Circuit Rules Against LAUSD Vaccine Mandate

9th Circuit Court of Appeal rules against LAUSD, reopening lawsuit challenging COVID-era vaccine mandates, religious liberty

purposedrivenlawyers.com

Remember when people were suspended from Twitter for claiming that the mRNA jabs were not vaccines but were more like therapeutics. Yeah that really happened.

Some Are Claiming Covid-19 Vaccines Are Not Vaccines

Writer Alex Berenson recently tweeted out the following about the Covid-19 vaccines: “don’t think of it as a vaccine.”

www.forbes.com

Nice look back.

It would appear the author was quoting the “old” CDC definition of Vaccine.

The CDC defines a vaccine as, “a product that stimulates a person’s immune system to produce immunity to a specific disease, protecting the person from that disease.”

 

[hUTch2002]

He didn't have to fire Fauci. He just needed to not let him broadcast nightly on national TV from behind the presidential seal. Trump basically introduced him every night which essentially made Fauci's policies the WH policy. It was an absolute failure in leadership

Unfortunately any POTUS likely would’ve done the same. Trump definitely had missteps but it was a new situation that was a no-win situation.

 

[Sgt_Nick_Fury]

New Congressional Report Exposes Dr. Fauci's Department for Concealing Plans to Engineer Mutant Monkeypox Virus, Risking Another Global Pandemic | The Gateway Pundit | by Jim Hᴏft

A new congressional report has uncovered disturbing details about a research project conducted at the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID), led by Dr.

www.thegatewaypundit.com

"New Congress Report Exposes Dr. Fauci’s Department for Concealing Plans to Engineer Mutant Monkeypox Virus, Risking Another Global Pandemic"

 

[volfanhill]

Did he have to give him an award on his last day in office?

 

[VolinWayne]

Remember when vaccines were pulled if they caused only a handful of deaths.

Number Of Children Who Died After COVID Shots Much Higher Than VAERS Reports Indicate, Analyst Says - Connecticut Centinal

Fetal deaths and miscarriages, sudden cardiac arrest, sudden death and suicides — these are some of the causes of death listed in reports submitted to the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) on children who received a COVID-19 vaccine.

connecticutcentinal.com

 

[Sgt_Nick_Fury]

Much bigger deal then most realize.

9th Circuit Court of Appeals Acknowledges Plaintiffs' Claim that COVID-19 mRNA Jab is NOT a Vaccine, But a Therapeutic | The Gateway Pundit | by Jim Hᴏft

In a contentious case involving the Health Freedom Defense Fund and other plaintiffs versus the Los Angeles Unified School District (LAUSD), the court acknowledged the plaintiffs’ claim that the COVID-19 mRNA vaccines do not meet the traditional definition of vaccines because they do not prevent...

www.thegatewaypundit.com

THis means every government agency, and private company that forced people into this experimental medication is in violation of the Nuremburg Code. Their entire defense was but this is a "vaccine" No. No it wasn't. It never was. Most companies will pass the buck to what they were told by this agency or that but the buck must stop somewhere. We still do not know how much damage has been done. It may never be able to be proven but the spike in cancer, the weakened immune systems, myocarditus and blood clots all run very highly in corralation. There's not a doctor out there so uneducated as not to have understood that an MRNA injection IS NOT A VACCINE. It was a experiemental theraputic that did not even work, nor lesson the effects as we were told. Billions were made by a drug with an unknown track record and more people have died from this and been handicapped from this then 9/11 and all the death in Gaza and Israel combined.... Sooner or later someone must be held accountable.

 

[marcusluvsvols]

Glad to see you carrying water for Trump now. Balance is good turbo.

Lmao. Good job.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

He didn't have to fire Fauci. He just needed to not let him broadcast nightly on national TV from behind the presidential seal. Trump basically introduced him every night which essentially made Fauci's policies the WH policy. It was an absolute failure in leadership

It still wouldn't have mattered. By April 2020/within the first two weeks of "flattening the curve", he would have been on CNN or MSNBC or wherever with the same bully pulpit.

 

[VolinWayne]

He didn't have to fire Fauci. He just needed to not let him broadcast nightly on national TV from behind the presidential seal. Trump basically introduced him every night which essentially made Fauci's policies the WH policy. It was an absolute failure in leadership

I do agree with you about this......it is hard to believe that a sitting President of the United States could be this unaware and naive about the people he was getting advice from. And to be honest, he was the one who was pushing for the vaccines to be approved so quickly. I guess that beats being locked down for 4 years though (except for the poor innocent souls who have suffered from adverse reactions, some fatal)

 

[jmacvols1]

 

[Orangeburst]

I wish someone would sue China..trillions.

 

[kiddiedoc]

I wish someone would sue China..trillions.

Maybe Joy Behar will lead the cause

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

Rules for thee ..... but Not for ME...