Vaccine or not?

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Orangeslice13 said:
There’s hardly a consensus on narrative.
And to give all credit to ivermectin is false when he’s also taking other treatments know to be more effective.
How about we start reporting and repeating the entire truth instead of what fits your narrative. (You in the general since not you personally) and I’d like to remind you (general sense of anyone who feels the need to respond) that I’ve called out both sides of this debate regularly.
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In this particular case, true.

But again, the narrative is that this is a dangerous drug that only affects rednecks and yahoos.
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
If you don’t see the difference between the CDC who sources and can be easily checked and a partisan site that writes mostly unsourced opinion then your part of the problem
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It was your criteria of what's a valid source. Don't get bitter because it got called out as insufficient.
 
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Velo Vol said:
Why do people push it? Because it's an easily transmitted disease. Just a brief encounter with the air surrounding a stranger is enough catch it. That's how your choice impacts us.
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That wasn’t the case with the original strain and it was still pushed.
 
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0nelilreb said:
This is why I don’t trust any government agencies reporting statistics regardless of if it goes with or against what I believe . They all have too much to gain / lose and it’s never just honest facts .
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I don’t trust anyone.
Peer reviewed data is about as good as you can expect. Even that has to be sifted through at times.
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
Good for you. You’re learning. Now apply that to your side of the argument. In fact abandon a side and just check everything for truth.

Edit: hold on. You’re upset that the CDC corrected their numbers when it was pointed out that they were wrong?
And by wrong they were divided by 2 instead of 3 but the total for the week was correct? Oh the horror.
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My point isn't pro the other site. It's that even the CDC has flaws so the criteria you have is inconsistent in practice. I agree with checking source material. I agree the other site is suspect but so is the CDC. That's all. That's not the only time CDC figures were corrected. I just provided one.

I'm not upset at all.
 
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utvols88 said:
My point isn't pro the other site. It's that even the CDC has flaws so the criteria you have is inconsistent in practice. I agree with checking source material. I agree the other site is suspect but so is the CDC. That's all. That's not the only time CDC figures were corrected. I just provided one.

I'm not upset at all.
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Well if you’d like I will be happy to pick the CDC apart for you. Especially when it comes to Lyme Disease. They are easily 3 years behind on data and information.
 
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VolStrom said:
You need to read this article and comment on it.

One Hospital Denies Oklahoma Doctor's Story of Ivermectin Overdoses Causing ER Delays for Gunshot Victims
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  • Dr. McElyea should be fired by his associated hospitals for misrepresenting their conditions, and possibly sued for damages
  • A patient's treatment is between a doctor and the patient. If a doctor prescribes ivermectin, that's their business. If a licensing board disagrees with the decision, that's their business.
  • Self medicating with any product can lead to long term illness or death. Brazil is already seeing issues related to people trying to intentionally be bitten by the viper in the article I linked. Desperation breeds bad decisions.
 
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'It was too late': Henderson man and firefighter dies from COVID-19; family urges community to get vaccinated

She and her husband were strongly against the COVID-19 vaccine and masks as recently as three weeks ago.

"I thought it was a political game... I didn't think it could happen to us," Christina Lowe said.

Christina said their views on the virus changed completely in the days leading up to his death. She opted to get the vaccine while in the hospital setting.

Now, she is not allowing his death to be in vain. Just as Mike did in his firefighting career. She's working to save lives by speaking out about the importance of getting vaccinated.

We asked her how the southern Nevada community can honor his legacy moving forward.

"By getting vaccinated, by wearing your masks. I understand some of you believe that this political-- and it might be, it could be political, I don't know that it's not," Christina said. "I do know that because of that decision of my husband believing it was political, that was why he did not want to wear a mask, he did not want to get vaccinated. He didn't trust them. It cost him his life."
 
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mad4vols said:
'It was too late': Henderson man and firefighter dies from COVID-19; family urges community to get vaccinated

She and her husband were strongly against the COVID-19 vaccine and masks as recently as three weeks ago.

"I thought it was a political game... I didn't think it could happen to us," Christina Lowe said.

Christina said their views on the virus changed completely in the days leading up to his death. She opted to get the vaccine while in the hospital setting.

Now, she is not allowing his death to be in vain. Just as Mike did in his firefighting career. She's working to save lives by speaking out about the importance of getting vaccinated.

We asked her how the southern Nevada community can honor his legacy moving forward.

"By getting vaccinated, by wearing your masks. I understand some of you believe that this political-- and it might be, it could be political, I don't know that it's not," Christina said. "I do know that because of that decision of my husband believing it was political, that was why he did not want to wear a mask, he did not want to get vaccinated. He didn't trust them. It cost him his life."
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Are you going to post a link every time somebody dies? Post the links of all the unvaccinated who have “survived” since January 2020; that list is about 39.5M individuals longer.
 
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