Vaccine or not?

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evillawyer said:
Get dramatic much?
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You want to see drama? Take your whiny-assed mouth to the black neighborhoods with low vaccination rates, as suggested above, and tell them they are being a-holes. Or, come knock on Bubba in East Tennessee's door and tell him you have his 12 year old daughter's mandatory vaccine.

There are plenty of us willing to stand for Freedom, individual liberty, and the other rights guaranteed to us in the Constitution. The fight will only be as dramatic as people like you are willing to endure.
 
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kiddiedoc said:
You want to see drama? Take your whiny-assed mouth to the black neighborhoods with low vaccination rates, as suggested above, and tell them they are being a-holes. Or, come knock on Bubba in East Tennessee's door and tell him you have his 12 year old daughter's mandatory vaccine.

There are plenty of us willing to stand for Freedom, individual liberty, and the other rights guaranteed to us in the Constitution. The fight will only be as dramatic as people like you are willing to endure.
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All the ones that have been advocating fire the firing of those that make their own healthcare choices will suffer as well. This will perhaps be the point of no return.
 
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evillawyer said:
Yeah, I'll go with what the SCOTUS said as opposed to the freedumb scholars on VN.

"The liberty secured by the Constitution of the United States does not import an absolute right in each person to be at all times, and in all circumstances, wholly freed from restraint, nor is it an element in such liberty that one person, or a minority of persons residing in any community and enjoying the benefits of its local government, should have power to dominate the majority when supported in their action by the authority of the State. It is within the police power of a State to enact a compulsory vaccination law, and it is for the legislature, and not for the courts, to determine In the first instance whether vaccination is or is not the best mode for the prevention of smallpox and the protection of the public health."
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I see the word State in there a lot. Not fed. Or POTUS. In fact I don't see the words legislative or executive at all. Wonder why.
 
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Jxn Vol said:
Wrong
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Just wait and see. We don’t reside in a free country anymore. We are gonna be given ultimatums. Either get vaccinated or else. That’s not a choice. With what Biden said today, I have come to the conclusion that the fundamental ideologies that have made this country the greatest this planet has ever known are gone.
 
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evillawyer said:
Yeah, I'll go with what the SCOTUS said as opposed to the freedumb scholars on VN.

"The liberty secured by the Constitution of the United States does not import an absolute right in each person to be at all times, and in all circumstances, wholly freed from restraint, nor is it an element in such liberty that one person, or a minority of persons residing in any community and enjoying the benefits of its local government, should have power to dominate the majority when supported in their action by the authority of the State. It is within the police power of a State to enact a compulsory vaccination law, and it is for the legislature, and not for the courts, to determine In the first instance whether vaccination is or is not the best mode for the prevention of smallpox and the protection of the public health."
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Notice it says legislature and not the president.
 
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volfanhill said:
I see the word State in there a lot. Not fed. Or POTUS.
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States have inherent police power to do it, which easily trumped any claim of personal freedumb. The crucial holding here is that claims of personal freedumb aren't gonna get you very far if the state/feds have the power to legislate/regulate in a particular area. Well established that feds can regulate workplace safety.
 
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evillawyer said:
Yeah, I'll go with what the SCOTUS said as opposed to the freedumb scholars on VN.

"The liberty secured by the Constitution of the United States does not import an absolute right in each person to be at all times, and in all circumstances, wholly freed from restraint, nor is it an element in such liberty that one person, or a minority of persons residing in any community and enjoying the benefits of its local government, should have power to dominate the majority when supported in their action by the authority of the State. It is within the police power of a State to enact a compulsory vaccination law, and it is for the legislature, and not for the courts, to determine In the first instance whether vaccination is or is not the best mode for the prevention of smallpox and the protection of the public health."
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Thank you for at least finally showing that you prefer 1940’s Germany over the United States. Just like Obama said, the average man and woman are to small minded to govern their own affairs. So the government should do it for them.
 
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evillawyer said:
States have inherent police power to do it, which easily trumped any claim of personal freedumb. The crucial holding here is that claims of personal freedumb aren't gonna get you very far if the state/feds have the power to legislate/regulate in a particular area. Well established that feds can regulate workplace safety.
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Do they only regulate workplace safety of business of 100 or more?
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
Just wait and see. We don’t reside in a free country anymore. We are gonna be given ultimatums. Either get vaccinated or else. That’s not a choice. With what Biden said today, I have come to the conclusion that the fundamental ideologies that have made this country the greatest this planet has ever known are gone.
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Probably a good time for you to find another country and move on.
 
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