Vaccine or not?

There is an option to either require vaccination or provide weekly testing. So yes, it is up to the employer to require vaccination or not assuming they have more than 100 employees. If they have less than 100 they are unaffected as of now.
Is Joe going to provide these tests for these companies?
 
There is an option to either require vaccination or be tested weekly. So yes, it is up to the employer to require vaccination or not assuming they have more than 100 employees. If they have less than 100 they are unaffected as of now.

Why 100? Why not 10? or 25? And, why again should the vaccine be required at all?
 
Why 100? Why not 10? or 25? And, why again should the vaccine be required at all?
What are you sure about? What are you sure the vaccine does and why is it necessary to the point of being mandated by employers?
These questions have already been answered by various posters in this thread, some of which not even an hour ago where you were involved in the conversation. Feel free to review.
 
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The vast majority of people aren't going to quit their jobs or risk getting fired over this. When it gets to nut cutting time people comply.

Wow. No f***ing s***. You threaten someone’s livelihood, they’ll comply? Next you’ll tell me if you put a gun up to someone’s head they’ll comply, too.
 
Aw naw, they haven't been answered. Coconut up and answer them. You.

You are wasting your time. Durden loves big government. He creamed himself when Obama said ordinary men and women are too small minded to govern their own affairs. I mean he like ELs posts that use the term freedumb instead of freedom. You are arguing with a loser Marxist troll.
 
Honest question to the obvious recipients: why is there no mention of those with naturally-acquired immunity?

There is no doubt, at this point, that recovery from natural infection offers better protection against mutated strains of the virus. Why would a person with laboratory-confirmed antibodies against multiple SARS-CoV-2 targets be required to be reimmunized in order to receive the special privileges that we have all enjoyed for the past 245 years?
 
Honest question to the obvious recipients: why is there no mention of those with naturally-acquired immunity?

There is no doubt, at this point, that recovery from natural infection offers better protection against mutated strains of the virus. Why would a person with laboratory-confirmed antibodies against multiple SARS-CoV-2 targets be required to be reimmunized in order to receive the special privileges that we have all enjoyed for the past 245 years?

Because it torpedoes their BS narrative that vaccines are the only path forward. Only an absolute idiot would make a case for the vaccine vs. natural immunity.
 
Honest question to the obvious recipients: why is there no mention of those with naturally-acquired immunity?

There is no doubt, at this point, that recovery from natural infection offers better protection against mutated strains of the virus. Why would a person with laboratory-confirmed antibodies against multiple SARS-CoV-2 targets be required to be reimmunized in order to receive the special privileges that we have all enjoyed for the past 245 years?

That's what I've been wondering. Of the 80 million vilified nonvaxers, how many have natural immunity? Seems that should be the required testing.
 
There is an option to either require vaccination or be tested weekly. So yes, it is up to the employer to require vaccination or not assuming they have more than 100 employees. If they have less than 100 they are unaffected as of now.
So that's a long way of saying it's not. Stop being stupid. "You can not follow our guidance and we will screw you in the ass. But don't complain."
 
On a personal note: my wife got shot #2 today and is sick as hell tonight. Fever and terrible body aches. Praying it will be a brief vaccine reaction. I know that for most people it passes in 24 hours.
 
So that's a long way of saying it's not. Stop being stupid. "You can not follow our guidance and we will screw you in the ass. But don't complain."
I posted right before the Pfizer vax got full FDA approved about how life for the un-vaxxxed was about to get more and more difficult. And here we are.

They are not being forced to get it, but civilized society is moving on without them. They can choose whatever route they want.
 
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Next, will the same orders apply to all of the coming variants and boosters? My Grandad would say this is no way to run a railroad.
Mine would have had a few other *choice* words for the current political situation.

But, then again, he DID actually fight against tyrannical powers for our freedom in WW2.
 
I posted right before the Pfizer vax got full FDA approved about how life for the un-vaxxxed was about to get more and more difficult. And here we are.

They are not being forced to get it, but civilized society is moving on without them. They can choose whatever route they want.
Am I "uncivilized?"
 
I don't know you personally, but based on our interactions and what I've seen you post I would say ignorant is an applicable description.
I have laboratory evidence from two weeks ago that my circulating anti-spike protein IgG level is double what would be expected after two mRNA vaccines. I also have confirmed presence of circulating antibodies to the SARS-CoV-2 nucleocapsid protein -- a protection not offered by vaccination.

In addition, I diagnose and treat several kids every day with COVID-19.

Therefore, you are either a) just not very smart, b) woefully uneducated on this subject, or c) intentionally misrepresenting what is scientifically-proven.

Which is it?
 
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I have laboratory evidence from two weeks ago that my circulating anti-spike protein IgG level is double what would be expected after two mRNA vaccines. I also have confirmed presence of circulating antibodies to the SARS-CoV-2 nucleocapsid protein -- a protection not offered by vaccination.

In addition, I diagnose and treat several kids every day with COVID-19.

Therefore, you are either a) just not very smart, b) woefully uneducated on this subject, or c) intentionally misrepresenting what is scientifically-proven.

Which is it?
A- completely possible
B- I've never claimed to be a doctor, but have urged people to follow CDC and FDA guidelines. Those guidelines say the vaccine is the absolute best option to prevent the infection and spread of COVID. From my personal experience and everyone I know to be vaccinated that is 100% true.
C- On the subject of COVID that is you. You consistently go against what the overwhelming majority of the medical community advises. All you do is relay the unfounded right wing medical advice of the day. Masks don't work, the vaccine is unproven, the vaccine isn't safe, take ivermectin instead. I've seen you do all of it.
 
Those guidelines say the vaccine is the absolute best option to prevent the infection and spread of COVID. From my personal experience and everyone I know to be vaccinated that is 100% true.
Better than naturally-acquired immunity? Demonstrate, then.

From your "personal experience," you know more people who have documented reinfection after recovery from CV19 than those who have had breakthrough infection after vaccine? I know of at least 50 people from families close to me with breakthrough infections, and one is currently fighting for his life. Zero reinfections.
 

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