Vaccine or not?

[luthervol]

What was the mortality rate of polio versus Covid?

The case fatality ratio for paralytic polio is generally 2% to 5% among children and up to 15% to 30% among adolescents and adults.

So good decision on forced vaccination?

 

[0nelilreb]

I don’t want the government mandating vaccination at all, have said so explicitly, and have never said that I did.

So you only want the employed people mandated to be vaccinated? Didnt I ask this already ?

 

[RockyTop85]

I know what it does. Jack squat. Come on, man. Here's your chance. Problem is, you've got nothing and you know it.

Buddy, if you think it does Jack squat, you don’t know what it does. That’s been the whole point from the beginning.

And I’ve had “my chance” to discuss this with people who weren’t too dumb and/or inarticulate to acknowledge the benefits and still make their case for not getting it. It probably happened in this thread, but if you’re too lazy to ask your doctor or even use Google, I suspect you’re not going to read through this thread.

 

[0nelilreb]

Bfd about testing. It's still not a requirement to get the jab.

Get it?

Google is your friend . Get it ?

 

[C-south]

The case fatality ratio for paralytic polio is generally 2% to 5% among children and up to 15% to 30% among adolescents and adults.

So good decision on forced vaccination?

Considering Covid is virtually a non issue for kids and for every other healthy person then yes.

 

[0nelilreb]

Allow me to moderate........
They are mandating a choice, not the vaccine.

He mandated two choices , not 3-4-5 . He gave from his office a mandate to employers . The number of choices or what you choose does not matter .

 

[Septic]

Google is your friend . Get it ?

Critical thinking at logic and reading comprehension is not your friend.

 

[luthervol]

Considering Covid is virtually a non issue for kids and for every other healthy person then yes.

Yes what? The forced polio vaccination was appropriate?

 

[0nelilreb]

Critical thinking at logic and reading comprehension is not your friend.

Google it and show us what every MSM and the White House itself is calling it you bonehead . I’ll wait .

 

[kiddiedoc]

I mean, I’m a “left leaning” person… but common sense and evidence based practice is what it is.

Even with our differing views, I'm pretty sure we could actually get along quite well in actual life. Unless you like crappy beer or bro country.

 

[C-south]

Yes what? The forced polio vaccination was appropriate?

If Covid was killing kids or anyone else at the same rate there wouldn’t need to be a mandate.

 

[Septic]

He mandated two choices , not 3-4-5 . He gave from his office a mandate to employers . The number of choices or what you choose does not matter .

Take a lap dude.

It's not a vaccine "mandate" if getting the vaccine is optional.

Read that sentence again.

Watching you flail so badly is starting to get cringy.

 

[luthervol]

He mandated two choices , not 3-4-5 . He gave from his office a mandate to employers . The number of choices or what you choose does not matter .

We've had mandated choices regarding vaccinations for decades.....for the betterment of society.

 

[0nelilreb]

Take a lap dude.

It's not a vaccine "mandate" if getting the vaccine is optional.

Read that sentence again.

Watching you flail so badly is starting to get cringy.

I’m waiting on you to provide me with links mr critical thinker . Google isn’t that hard to use .

 

[Septic]

Google it and show us what every MSM and the White House itself is calling it you bonehead . I’ll wait .

Lol, you need the media to shape this for you? You're telling on yourself.

 

[kiddiedoc]

Why is an infectious disease specialist hard on you about your diet? Do you trust medical professionals outside of their given specialty?

I would actually applaud that ID doc. What's the most significant risk factor for severe COVID-19 disease?

It might surprise many of you how much some doctors (including me) really do care about our patients.

 

[C-south]

We've had mandated choices regarding vaccinations for decades.....for the betterment of society.

You mean vaccines that weren’t mandated initially, proven safe, were 99-100% effective, and for viruses that actually had high mortality rates?

 

[Septic]

I’m waiting on you to provide me with links mr critical thinker . Google isn’t that hard to use .

Stop deflecting.

Its not a vaccine "mandate" if getting the vaccine is optional.

Looks like this is where you keeping getting confused.

"BuT the MeDiA" lol

 

[luthervol]

If Covid was killing kids or anyone else at the same rate there wouldn’t need to be a mandate.

Sure there would. Just as with the polio vaccine.

 

[Offset Eye]

Buddy, if you think it does Jack squat, you don’t know what it does. That’s been the whole point from the beginning.

And I’ve had “my chance” to discuss this with people who weren’t too dumb and/or inarticulate to acknowledge the benefits and still make their case for not getting it. It probably happened in this thread, but if you’re too lazy to ask your doctor or even use Google, I suspect you’re not going to read through this thread.

It does squat. I live with a doctor. She read your banality and thinks you're clueless too. What else you got?

 

[0nelilreb]

We've had mandated choices regarding vaccinations for decades.....for the betterment of society.

I’m not arguing that buddy , I’m arguing with a Billy goat that it is being called a vaccine mandate by everyone with a microphone on both sides of the aisle . He issued a mandate from his position today to employers to either force the jab or force the test as a condition of employment under heavy penalties from the federal government. They were both mandates

 

[C-south]

Sure there would. Just as with the polio vaccine.

So why is there no flu vaccine mandate?

 

[NurseGoodVol]

I’m still in disbelief on how many people are misinformed into thinking the vaccine does nothing in regards to prevention of obtaining the virus. While efficacy and immunity has decreased over time, there is plenty of evidence showing that the vaccines still express a decent amount of protection from acquiring the virus, and of course drastically decreasing the likelihood of severe symptoms.

I have heard from countless people that the vaccine does not work and is simply “therapy” because it’s efficacy is essentially not 100%. No vaccine has ever had 100% resistance to a virus. That’s not what defines a vaccine. A vaccine is defined by being a substance used to stimulate your immune system into something that can recognize and fight off the future pathogen that it was provided information about. Sometimes those numbers can be as effective as >90%, and sometimes those numbers can be around 40-60% (the flu vaccine year to year). Regardless, they will all theoretically provide some protection to catching the virus, and as well as ensuring your symptoms if you do catch it are milder than if you had not had it at all.

I can only assume a grown adult who thinks the vaccine is not in their best interest has had to have received some crazy amount of misinformation to get to that point.

Or had a stellar case of covid and natural immunity.

 

[kiddiedoc]

Sure there would. Just as with the polio vaccine.

That's obviously a ridiculous comparison.

 

[0nelilreb]

Stop deflecting.

Its not a vaccine "mandate" if getting the vaccine is optional.

Looks like this is where you keeping getting confused.

"BuT the MeDiA" lol

Soooo I’m not getting that “it’s not being called a vaccine mandate “ link from you . am I ?