Vaccine or not?

[C-south]

You are truly a fool. Now you are going for seatbelts. Apples and Oranges.... Why don't you talk about saving American lives and pulling together as Americans to be the strongest country on the planet?? No you want to talk about "seatbelts"

And you don’t see how stupid it is to push for people to get a vaccine they don’t need so the vaccine will work for the people who got it. It either works or it doesn’t. If you feel you need it then get. If you feel like everyone else has to get for it to work for you then you may want to question what it is you really believe.

 

[GoDucks349]

And you don’t see how stupid it is to push for people to get a vaccine they don’t need so the vaccine will work for the people who got it. It either works or it doesn’t. If you feel you need it then get. If you feel like everyone else has to get for it to work for you then you may want to question what it is you really believe.

This is not about "YOU" or "ME" this is about humanity, America and doing what's right. You just don't get it. In my opinion, you are just a self centered individual who doesn't care about America. You ever been in the military? Vets care about America and all vets have earned the right to have their own opinions as American Patriots. We all certainly don't agree on everything, but we've earned that right to have our opinions. Still the fundamental belief among Vets is that they want what is best for America

 

[VolinWayne]

Twitter has been slammed for fact-checking the obituary of a Seattle mother that attributed her death to blood clots brought on by the COVID-19 vaccine after she was forced to get the shot due to “heavy-handed” state mandates.

The online obituary for 37-year-old Jessica Berg Wilson, who died Sept. 7, was marked as “misleading” by the social media giant over the weekend, according to Twitter users.

Twitter slammed after flagging COVID vaccine death obit as 'misleading'

 

[MG1968]

This is not about "YOU" or "ME" this is about humanity, America and doing what's right. You just don't get it. In my opinion, you are just a self centered individual who doesn't care about America. You ever been in the military? Vets care about America and all vets have earned the right to have their own opinions as American Patriots. We all certainly don't agree on everything, but we've earned that right to have our opinions. Still the fundamental belief among Vets is that they want what is best for America

Patriotism is minding your own ****ing business and letting other people live their lives.

 

[kiddiedoc]

The unvaccinated do not have the knowledge or right to make decisions...

WOW.

 

[GoDucks349]

WOW.

That quote is totally out of context and has been reported

 

[hog88]

So what's my problem? I'm an American patriot who's served my country and I am proud to be an American who's willing to do what's right for America, including getting a shot(s) that will help protect those I served in the military (SSgt USAF 1966-70). Getting a shot in the arm is one hell of a lot easier and certainly a lot safer than getting your a** shot off by some one out to destroy the USA.

If you were ever in the military and doing something other than "riding a desk" (or maybe a second lieutenant clerk) you got plenty of shots to protect you. That was the Government protecting it's "assets" such as GIs.

We were talking about you wearing a mask outside on your porch. I have no problem with you doing what you thinks best, I just think it’s asinine to do that.

Off topic but something I’ve noticed, the ones I see touting their military service and questioning the service of others along with bringing up and questioning patriotism are the REMFs or non-combat arms types. Not the guys who actually had their ass in the grass.

 

[InVOLuntary]

That's simply not true. The unvaccinated do not have the knowledge or right to make decisions about the possibility that they might infect others or take up hospital space because they were careless and unthinking. Item #2 is an Unamerican act.

But if you're vaccinated you can still give it to others. Sometimes you can spread it not knowing you have it. So vaccinated people are more dangerous to others than unvaccinated.

 

[Orangeslice13]

But if you're vaccinated you can still give it to others. Sometimes you can spread it not knowing you have it. So vaccinated people are more dangerous to others than unvaccinated.

Meh
The amount of people vaccinated and spreading it is minuscule. It’s true that it can happen but the way it’s presented as common is misleading.

 

[InVOLuntary]

Meh
The amount of people vaccinated and spreading it is minuscule. It’s true that it can happen but the way it’s presented as common is misleading.

Never said it's common but a spreader that doesn't know he's got it is more dangerous than someone who's symptomatic that knows to stay home.

 

[OHvol40]

And you don’t see how stupid it is to push for people to get a vaccine they don’t need so the vaccine will work for the people who got it. It either works or it doesn’t. If you feel you need it then get. If you feel like everyone else has to get for it to work for you then you may want to question what it is you really believe.

Me thinks you don’t understand. Please see Tdap boosters for adults that are going to be around infants. The Tdap shot isn’t for the adult getting it, it’s for the vulnerable amongst them. This idea isn’t new, only the politicizing of it is.

 

[kiddiedoc]

That quote is totally out of context and has been reported

No it isn't. Those were your exact words, and what follows is irrelevant. Who are you to assume that unvaccinated people have not read, done research, discussed with their doctors, or had enough personal experience to be "educated" on whether or not they should take the vaccine? And, since when do we not have rights to choose or decline medical treatments?

 

[Orangeslice13]

Never said it's common but a spreader that doesn't know he's got it is more dangerous than someone who's symptomatic that knows to stay home.

No, I get what you’re saying but it’s kinda like the black mold problem that people freak out over. In reality it’s not a common problem

 

[InVOLuntary]

No, I get what you’re saying but it’s kinda like the black mold problem that people freak out over. In reality it’s not a common problem

Do we really know though? How do you go about coming up with real data? If we have people that have been vaccinated, many who think they're immune to Covid, have either no symptoms or very mild like a runny nose. Never get tested. It seems to me that it would be difficult to put a real number on asymptomatic vaxxed spreaders.

 

[NurseGoodVol]

That's simply not true. The unvaccinated do not have the knowledge or right to make decisions about the possibility that they might infect others or take up hospital space because they were careless and unthinking. Item #2 is an Unamerican act.

Yay, another troll account.

 

[LouderVol]

That's simply not true. The unvaccinated do not have the knowledge or right to make decisions about the possibility that they might infect others or take up hospital space because they were careless and unthinking. Item #2 is an Unamerican act.

Guess what, you vaxxed can still infect others. So what about your decision making? Do you have the right to be 50% more stupid because you have a vax?

It's going to be funny when I start getting tested weekly, come back negative 9(9)/10(0) and will be able to say I know I am safer than the based vax. Because of the test I will know if I am sick or not. The vaxxed will keep going around believing they are safe while they silently deliver death to grandma's everywhere.

 

[LouderVol]

This is not about "YOU" or "ME" this is about humanity, America and doing what's right. You just don't get it. In my opinion, you are just a self centered individual who doesn't care about America. You ever been in the military? Vets care about America and all vets have earned the right to have their own opinions as American Patriots. We all certainly don't agree on everything, but we've earned that right to have our opinions. Still the fundamental belief among Vets is that they want what is best for America

Some how humanity made it this far without vaccines. Especially vaccines against a disease with a 1.6% case fatality rate.

You know our population, America, and world wide, still went up in 2020, and will again in 2021. You fear mongering about the humanity is completely misplaced. We arent dying anywhere close enough to worry about humanity.

 

[NurseGoodVol]

Will have results for covid antibodies by Friday. I found it interesting labcorp does not track positive antibody screens unless you are in a study group. Why wouldn’t the cdc be latching into this information as it is basic to herd immunity?

 

[Caculator]

'Not Supposed To Happen': US State With Highest Vaxx Rate Sees Record Surge In COVID Cases
BY TYLER DURDEN
TUESDAY, OCT 05, 2021 - 11:14 AM
Authored by Ivan Pentchoukov via The Epoch Times,
Vermont, the state with the highest vaccination rate in the United States, is experiencing a CCP virus surge at levels not seen since the pandemic’s peak last winter.


The number of cases in Vermont is at a record level, hospitalizations are close to the records notched last winter, and the state recorded the deadliest day and the second deadliest month of the pandemic in September.

“I think it’s clearly frustrating for all of us,” Michael Pieciak, the commissioner of the Vermont Department of Financial Regulation who monitors CCP (Chinese Communist Party) virus statistics for the state.​

More than 69 percent of Vermont’s population has been fully vaccinated against COVID-19 as of Sept. 24, according to the CDC, far above the national rate of 56 percent.
The state recorded the highest rate of hospitalizations per 100,000 residents on Sept. 30, breaching a record set on Jan. 31 last year. Eight people died of the CCP virus in Vermont on Sept. 13, the highest grim total recorded since the outbreak of the virus.
In late August, four of ten cases of COVID-19 in Vermont were among vaccinated people, according to a letter signed by 90 employees of the Vermont Health Department, including state Epidemiologist Patsy Kelso.
Gov. Phil Scott (R) lifted the state of emergency in Vermont in June when 80 percent of the population had received at least one shot of the vaccine. He has since indicated he is wary of reimposing the state of emergency.
“We can’t be in a perpetual state of emergency,” Scott said this week.
The four states which follow Vermont in terms of the highest vaccination rates in the nation are also experiencing alarming signs.
The head of UMass Memorial Health, the largest health system in central Massachusetts, said recently that regional hospitals were seeing nearly 20 times more COVID-19 patients than in June and there isn’t an ICU bed to spare. Massachusetts has the fifth-highest vaccination rate in the nation.
In Connecticut, the second most vaccinated state in the U.S., the legislature recently extended the governor’s emergency powers to make it easier to cope with the latest wave of the pandemic.
On Sept. 22, Maine, the third most-vaccinated U.S. state, had nearly 90 people in intensive care units, a pandemic peak for the state.

Dear Dr.Fauci, please explain...

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

Has happened a few times at my hospital.

My 80 y.o. step mom got it yesterday.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

Will have results for covid antibodies by Friday. I found it interesting labcorp does not track positive antibody screens unless you are in a study group. Why wouldn’t the cdc be latching into this information as it is basic to herd immunity?

Because they don't gas about herd immunity

 

[RockyTop85]

No it isn't.

It really is.

 

[MG1968]

'Not Supposed To Happen': US State With Highest Vaxx Rate Sees Record Surge In COVID Cases
BY TYLER DURDEN
TUESDAY, OCT 05, 2021 - 11:14 AM
Authored by Ivan Pentchoukov via The Epoch Times,
Vermont, the state with the highest vaccination rate in the United States, is experiencing a CCP virus surge at levels not seen since the pandemic’s peak last winter.


The number of cases in Vermont is at a record level, hospitalizations are close to the records notched last winter, and the state recorded the deadliest day and the second deadliest month of the pandemic in September.

“I think it’s clearly frustrating for all of us,” Michael Pieciak, the commissioner of the Vermont Department of Financial Regulation who monitors CCP (Chinese Communist Party) virus statistics for the state.​

More than 69 percent of Vermont’s population has been fully vaccinated against COVID-19 as of Sept. 24, according to the CDC, far above the national rate of 56 percent.
The state recorded the highest rate of hospitalizations per 100,000 residents on Sept. 30, breaching a record set on Jan. 31 last year. Eight people died of the CCP virus in Vermont on Sept. 13, the highest grim total recorded since the outbreak of the virus.
In late August, four of ten cases of COVID-19 in Vermont were among vaccinated people, according to a letter signed by 90 employees of the Vermont Health Department, including state Epidemiologist Patsy Kelso.
Gov. Phil Scott (R) lifted the state of emergency in Vermont in June when 80 percent of the population had received at least one shot of the vaccine. He has since indicated he is wary of reimposing the state of emergency.
“We can’t be in a perpetual state of emergency,” Scott said this week.
The four states which follow Vermont in terms of the highest vaccination rates in the nation are also experiencing alarming signs.
The head of UMass Memorial Health, the largest health system in central Massachusetts, said recently that regional hospitals were seeing nearly 20 times more COVID-19 patients than in June and there isn’t an ICU bed to spare. Massachusetts has the fifth-highest vaccination rate in the nation.
In Connecticut, the second most vaccinated state in the U.S., the legislature recently extended the governor’s emergency powers to make it easier to cope with the latest wave of the pandemic.
On Sept. 22, Maine, the third most-vaccinated U.S. state, had nearly 90 people in intensive care units, a pandemic peak for the state.

Dear Dr.Fauci, please explain...

I have no love or respect for Fauci, but I doubt he’s going to respond to a news satire site similar to the Babylon Bee.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

That's simply not true. The unvaccinated do not have the knowledge or right to make decisions about the possibility that they might infect others or take up hospital space because they were careless and unthinking. Item #2 is an Unamerican act.

LOL

 

[DynaLo]

I’ll say it again.
From the CDC, the 2019 total US deaths: 2,854,838
Number of deaths for leading causes of death:

Heart disease: 659,041
Cancer: 599,601

Heart disease and cancer are the top two causes and just those two health issues alone in 2019 accounted for 1,258,642 deaths in the US. The total numbers for Covid deaths in the US since they started counting is nowhere near the combined numbers for just heart disease and cancer in the year before covid.

So one of two things is happening, Covid cured deaths from heart disease and cancer or there is a serious fear and propaganda campaign being pushed on everyone by government and their MSM tools to force sketchy shots and unquestioning compliance on Americans. Take your pick.