Vaccine or not?

[newyorkvol]

What’s to bad is that you were actually right , this time , but still managed to miss at the same time . What’s being politicized is that age group getting the jab .

From the article from an FDA voter….

He said he voted yes "because I want to make sure the children who really need the vaccine — primarily the black and brown children in our country — get the vaccine."

 

[Wafflestomper]

So you were trying hard to sell that you have property use rights on your vehicle. Which you do it’s your property. But you don’t have a usage right on public roads. We just don’t.

Your end game was to play that since the government can limit your property usage rights on your car on public roads they can also limit your rights to not be forced to take the jab. It was visible coming over the hill. They are not equivalent.

No, they're not equivalent--you're right. But then again, they're not forcing anyone to take the jab. You won't lose your freedom or be held down and inoculated if you refuse it. So that's not what we're comparing either.

 

[Wafflestomper]

Try speeding down the freeway without a driver's license. When the cop pulls you over for speeding, he's also going to issue you a ticket for driving without a license. That is support for the fact that driving is a privilege, not a right.

By that same logic, if you can't keep your job because you don't follow the vaccine mandate then your job is a privilege. Thanks, government, for allowing me to have a job!

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

From the article from an FDA voter….

He said he voted yes "because I want to make sure the children who really need the vaccine — primarily the black and brown children in our country — get the vaccine."

So nothing at all to do with science...

 

[Vol423]

So nothing at all to do with science...

No real surprise there. The FDA, CDC, FBI, CIA and IRS are nothing more than political enforcement agencies of the Democratic party at this point.

 

[NorthDallas40]

No, they're not equivalent--you're right. But then again, they're not forcing anyone to take the jab. You won't lose your freedom or be held down and inoculated if you refuse it. So that's not what we're comparing either.

Not buying that either. People will lose their jobs which was your next play. You already headed that way. That is not reasonable accommodation. Vaccine mandates from the Fed executive branch are over reach plain and simple. They have no such power. The only entities that can claim that power over individuals would be a state Governor or legislative body. And thank goodness I live in a state that views them as over reach.

If it can be taken from you it isn’t a right.

 

[Wafflestomper]

Not buying that either. People will lose their jobs which was your next play. You already headed that way. That is not reasonable accommodation. Vaccine mandates from the Fed executive branch are over reach plain and simple. They have no such power. The only entities that can claim that power over individuals would be a state Governor or legislative body. And thank goodness I live in a state that views them as over reach.

Whoa, so now you're acknowledging that government does have this power but are quibbling over where it resides?

If it can be taken from you it isn’t a right.

So if Hillary suicides you then you don't have a right to live. Got it.

 

[0nelilreb]

From the article from an FDA voter….

He said he voted yes "because I want to make sure the children who really need the vaccine — primarily the black and brown children in our country — get the vaccine."

These are the people and their reasons for approving an emergency use vax for an age group that’s largely unaffected? I should have bought Pfizer stock in 2009 . After their huge fine . I’m ashamed at all the missed opportunities I’ve had to become a multimillionaire.

 

[kiddiedoc]

There is an emergency amongst the 5-11 year olds?

Yes. There have been a total of zero admissions at Children's Hospital in the past week, and a total of zero deaths in the entire Knox County service area among those 18 and under since the start of the pandemic.

But, let's vaccinate them after trying it in less than 2000 kids this summer, while we study this myocarditis thing and try to figure out what's going on with young women's menstrual cycles.

 

[NorthDallas40]

Whoa, so now you're acknowledging that government does have this power but are quibbling over where it resides?



So if Hillary suicides you then you don't have a right to live. Got it.

Nope. I’m doing no such thing. The only entity that can exercise any power directly over individuals is the state legislature or governor. Even then as far as I’m concerned it’s over reach with regards to forcing a vaccination against their will with no reasonable accommodation. The idiot in chiefs EO’s are garbage.

Sure I have a right to live. She just violated it. That’s why it’s illegal. This isn’t that hard.

 

[NorthDallas40]

Yes. There have been a total of zero admissions at Children's Hospital in the past week, and a total of zero deaths in the entire Knox County service area among those 18 and under since the start of the pandemic.

But, let's vaccinate them after trying it in less than 2000 kids this summer, while we study this myocarditis thing and try to figure out what's going on with young women's menstrual cycles.

Clearly a vaccine is needed then. Thank you for your support on this issue.

 

[DynaLo]

Natural immunity hasn't been ignored. It's been researched and tested.

COVID-19 natural immunity versus vaccination

I posted this in a reply to @NurseGoodVol a short while ago... and it is about the science, and you should trust it.

So what exactly makes my natural immunity to Covid different from my natural immunity to other viruses like measles, mumps and chicken pox?
Is it because those three are not lab created and Covid is?

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Yes. There have been a total of zero admissions at Children's Hospital in the past week, and a total of zero deaths in the entire Knox County service area among those 18 and under since the start of the pandemic.

But, let's vaccinate them after trying it in less than 2000 kids this summer, while we study this myocarditis thing and try to figure out what's going on with young women's menstrual cycles.

Pediatric COVID Hospitalizations Plunge As Schools Reopen, Baffling Experts | ZeroHedge

 

[DynaLo]

I've even been asked several times how I can be sure that they aren't disguising the CV19 vaccine as flu shots to get people to take it. I know that sounds crazy, but some people have become extremely distrustful of.gov

That may partially be because of reports that people going in for flu vaccines have accidentally been given the Covid shot.

 

[BP4Prez]

Death of vaccinated man raises concerns for West Tennessee family - WBBJ TV

Story out of West TN

Yeah let’s rush to vaccinate those 10 year olds.

 

[tnmarktx]

So what exactly makes my natural immunity to Covid different from my natural immunity to other viruses like measles, mumps and chicken pox?
Is it because those three are not lab created and Covid is?

Natural immunity to covid is better than vaccinated immunity. This is simply more lies and misinformation.

 

[phoenixvol]

Equivalency of Protection from Natural Immunity in COVID-19 Recovered Versus Fully Vaccinated Persons: A Systematic Review and Pooled Analysis

It's a pre-print, but should at least as reputable as NebraskaMed.

 

[kiddiedoc]

Equivalency of Protection from Natural Immunity in COVID-19 Recovered Versus Fully Vaccinated Persons: A Systematic Review and Pooled Analysis

It's a pre-print, but should at least as reputable as NebraskaMed.

This should be such an obvious conclusion.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

This should be such an obvious conclusion.

What's the latest you heard about the UK study showing the vaccinated acquiring immune deficiency?

 

[Vol423]

I've even been asked several times how I can be sure that they aren't disguising the CV19 vaccine as flu shots to get people to take it. I know that sounds crazy, but some people have become extremely distrustful of.gov

That’s stunning news since the government is so trustworthy.

 

[newyorkvol]

This should be such an obvious conclusion.

It seems like that’s the way most viral immunity worked until 2020.

 

[House of Neyland]

Got my booster last week other than a sore arm I had no side effects. I felt worse after the flu shot actually. But if people don’t want to get it they shouldn’t be forced to get it should be personal choice

 

[kiddiedoc]

What's the latest you heard about the UK study showing the vaccinated acquiring immune deficiency?

Nothing in reputable medical literature that I've seen

 

[Wafflestomper]

Nope. I’m doing no such thing. The only entity that can exercise any power directly over individuals is the state legislature or governor. Even then as far as I’m concerned it’s over reach with regards to forcing a vaccination against their will with no reasonable accommodation. The idiot in chiefs EO’s are garbage.

Again, that isn't what is happening. I can see an advantage to keep pressing this for the sake of your argument but it's an important distinction. There is a choice, even if it's not a good one. No one's bodily sovereignty is being violated.

Sure I have a right to live. She just violated it. That’s why it’s illegal. This isn’t that hard.

If the government can change what rights you have, or decide you've forfeited them, there isn't a functional difference between rights and privileges.

 

[NorthDallas40]

Again, that isn't what is happening. I can see an advantage to keep pressing this for the sake of your argument but it's an important distinction. There is a choice, even if it's not a good one. No one's bodily sovereignty is being violated.



If the government can change what rights you have, or decide you've forfeited them, there isn't a functional difference between rights and privileges.

LMAO. “You have a choice… comply or lose you job, livelihood, and home”. Clown

Again if it can be taken it isn’t a right. Another clown comment.