Vaccine or not?

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#12,481
n_huffhines said:
COVID-19 vaccine gives 5 times the protection of 'natural immunity,' data show
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The researchers looked at data from nine states on 201,269 hospitalizations for COVID-like illness from Jan 1 to Sep 2, 2021. Of these, 94,264 previously had molecular testing for SARS-CoV-2, and 7,348 (7.8%) had had at least one other SARS-CoV-2 test result 14 or more days before hospitalization and were thus included in the study.
Among that group, 1,020 hospitalizations were among previously infected and unvaccinated people, and 6,328 cases were among fully vaccinated people who were not previously infected. A recent lab-confirmed COVID-19 infection was found in 324 (5.1%) of the fully vaccinated people and in 89 (8.7%) of the unvaccinated, previously infected people.

Can some brilliant person explain how this makes sense? Where do they get the 5X the protection from? Serious question
 
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#12,484
825VOL said:
From the article
The researchers looked at data from nine states on 201,269 hospitalizations for COVID-like illness from Jan 1 to Sep 2, 2021. Of these, 94,264 previously had molecular testing for SARS-CoV-2, and 7,348 (7.8%) had had at least one other SARS-CoV-2 test result 14 or more days before hospitalization and were thus included in the study.
Among that group, 1,020 hospitalizations were among previously infected and unvaccinated people, and 6,328 cases were among fully vaccinated people who were not previously infected. A recent lab-confirmed COVID-19 infection was found in 324 (5.1%) of the fully vaccinated people and in 89 (8.7%) of the unvaccinated, previously infected people.

Can some brilliant person explain how this makes sense? Where do they get the 5X the protection from? Serious question
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When I got my test, it only asked if I was vaxxed. Didn't ask if I had it before. Where would they get that data?
 
#12,486
#12,486
825VOL said:
From the article
The researchers looked at data from nine states on 201,269 hospitalizations for COVID-like illness from Jan 1 to Sep 2, 2021. Of these, 94,264 previously had molecular testing for SARS-CoV-2, and 7,348 (7.8%) had had at least one other SARS-CoV-2 test result 14 or more days before hospitalization and were thus included in the study.
Among that group, 1,020 hospitalizations were among previously infected and unvaccinated people, and 6,328 cases were among fully vaccinated people who were not previously infected. A recent lab-confirmed COVID-19 infection was found in 324 (5.1%) of the fully vaccinated people and in 89 (8.7%) of the unvaccinated, previously infected people.

Can some brilliant person explain how this makes sense? Where do they get the 5X the protection from? Serious question
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It is a very strange methodology that skews numbers to look a certain way, but that isn't representative of the real world.
 
#12,492
#12,492
825VOL said:
From the article
The researchers looked at data from nine states on 201,269 hospitalizations for COVID-like illness from Jan 1 to Sep 2, 2021. Of these, 94,264 previously had molecular testing for SARS-CoV-2, and 7,348 (7.8%) had had at least one other SARS-CoV-2 test result 14 or more days before hospitalization and were thus included in the study.
Among that group, 1,020 hospitalizations were among previously infected and unvaccinated people, and 6,328 cases were among fully vaccinated people who were not previously infected. A recent lab-confirmed COVID-19 infection was found in 324 (5.1%) of the fully vaccinated people and in 89 (8.7%) of the unvaccinated, previously infected people.

Can some brilliant person explain how this makes sense? Where do they get the 5X the protection from? Serious question
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Leftist math
 
#12,495
#12,495
LouderVol said:
I think it's fair to say the "science" has been inconsistent this entire time, so it's not surprising.
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It isn't inconsistent. Look at the conflict of interest disclosure on the study that was linked about how these shots that require infinite boosters outperform natural immunity.

The "science" is designed to serve the Church of Big Pharma that these people love.
 
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volfanhill said:
No. It's brought to you by doctors and scientists who submitted their findings to the CDC.
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The science never has been that way ever. It's an absolute lie being perpetuated by the CDC. Doctors in other countries are not discounting natural immunity. All doctors in this country aren't either.
 
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ButchPlz said:
It isn't inconsistent. Look at the conflict of interest disclosure on the study that was linked about how these shots that require infinite boosters outperform natural immunity.

The "science" is designed to serve the Church of Big Pharma that these people love.
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It was funded by the CDC and Kaiser. Many of the authors receive support from Pfizer or Kaiser or other pharma companies. It doesn’t necessarily mean it’s bad data, but typically studies with this type of potential bias are treated skeptically, not instantly made dogma.
 
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