Vaccine or not?

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tpsdave said:
Really wish people would stop using Zero Hedge as a source. It's a really tilted web site.
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It is but if the MSM won't report on these things then where else are we to turn if we want to hear other points of view? The media will only report studies that show vaccination>natural immunity. They won't show you the studies that say the opposite. That's just one example
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
So the unvaccinated have a .8497% chance of dying vs the vaccinated having a .0262% chance of dying.

I still like my odds...
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It's likely I am an idiot, but I don't understand the "age adjusted" meaning. If I were to catch COVID as a healthy, relatively fit young adult, the rate of survival has stayed pretty consistent at 99.99ish%. Is the vaccine going to keep me more alive than that somehow?
 
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NurseGoodVol said:
Here’s a point of view with references…found this very interesting. Long read though.
Here is The Spartacus Covid Letter That Everyone is Talking About | Tech News | Startups News
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They make some very interesting points. Below is an insert of the summary for some who may be to lazy to open the link that was provided. I think the 2 things that have raised huge red flags for me since the beginning is the way they absolutely deny the scientific fact of natural immunity as well as any treatment that doesn't involve big Pharma. These 2 simple facts screams there is something more going on then what we see on the surface.

Summary:
  • COVID-19 is a blood and blood vessel disease. SARS-CoV-2 infects the lining of human blood vessels, causing them to leak into the lungs.
  • Current treatment protocols (e.g. invasive ventilation) are actively harmful to patients, accelerating oxidative stress and causing severe VILI (ventilator-induced lung injuries). The continued use of ventilators in the absence of any proven medical benefit constitutes mass murder.
  • Existing countermeasures are inadequate to slow the spread of what is an aerosolized and potentially wastewater-borne virus, and constitute a form of medical theater.
  • Various non-vaccine interventions have been suppressed by both the media and the medical establishment in favor of vaccines and expensive patented drugs.
  • The authorities have denied the usefulness of natural immunity against COVID-19, despite the fact that natural immunity confers protection against all of the virus’s proteins, and not just one.
  • Vaccines will do more harm than good. The antigen that these vaccines are based on, SARS-CoV- 2 Spike, is a toxic protein. SARS-CoV-2 may have ADE, or antibody-dependent enhancement; current antibodies may not neutralize future strains, but instead help them infect immune cells. Also, vaccinating during a pandemic with a leaky vaccine removes the evolutionary pressure for a virus to become less lethal.
  • There is a vast and appalling criminal conspiracy that directly links both Anthony Fauci and Moderna to the Wuhan Institute of Virology.
  • COVID-19 vaccine researchers are directly linked to scientists involved in brain-computer interface (“neural lace”) tech, one of whom was indicted for taking grant money from China.
  • Independent researchers have discovered mysterious nanoparticles inside the vaccines that are not supposed to be present.
  • The entire pandemic is being used as an excuse for a vast political and economic transformation of Western society that will enrich the already rich and turn the rest of us into serfs and untouchables.
 
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ButchPlz said:
It's likely I am an idiot, but I don't understand the "age adjusted" meaning. If I were to catch COVID as a healthy, relatively fit young adult, the rate of survival has stayed pretty consistent at 99.99ish%. Is the vaccine going to keep me more alive than that somehow?
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You don't understand the talking points. It's not about you, it's about me. I've been vaccinated and if you don't get vaccinated you can kill me, which makes you a murderer. Does it make sense now?
 
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ButchPlz said:
It's likely I am an idiot, but I don't understand the "age adjusted" meaning. If I were to catch COVID as a healthy, relatively fit young adult, the rate of survival has stayed pretty consistent at 99.99ish%. Is the vaccine going to keep me more alive than that somehow?
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I think the vaccine is more about reducing spread than anything else.
 
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rjd970 said:
I think the vaccine is more about reducing spread than anything else.
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Yeah but it's not doing a real great job at that either. I posted charts of highly and not-so-highly vaccinated states without listing their names side by side earlier in the thread and the different states are nearly indistinguishable- there's a mix of heavy outbreaks/hospitalizations/deaths on both sides of the coin.
 
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VolStrom said:
You don't understand the talking points. It's not about you, it's about me. I've been vaccinated and if you don't get vaccinated you can kill me, which makes you a murderer. Does it make sense now?
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About as much as me having to wear a diaper to prevent Joe Biden from *****ing himself.
 
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So after threats that 10,000 cops would Quit the force over NYC vaccine mandates.
The numbers are in.
34 Cops are out on unpaid leave.
So close 🤣😂🤣
 
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mad4vols said:
So after threats that 10,000 cops would Quit the force over NYC vaccine mandates.
The numbers are in.
34 Cops are out on unpaid leave.
So close 🤣😂🤣
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Have you got your new pagan idol picked out yet to replace the hypodermic needle, death cult Homer? Better get on that since your religion is winding down 😂🤡
 
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ButchPlz said:
Did you read the rest of the tweet you got this from or are you just spewing headlines as usual?
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I swear Mad is posting more and more like EL everyday . Posts big bold articles , doesn’t bother to read them , doesn’t argue the facts or reply . Trolls right onto the next one .
 
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