Vaccine or not?

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n_huffhines said:
Unhinged anti-vaxxers: they're probably going to brand us just like the Jews, so everybody will know who we are and shun us.

Me: ....

Also Unhinged anti-vaxxers: [voluntarily wearing star of David]
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Unhinged? What is unhinged about wanting to keep anything out of my body of which I don't approve? What is unhinged about not wanting an experimental 'vaccine' for something that is well over 99% survivable... AND that I have already survived? You are unbelievable. I guess I could refer to you as a chickenshit little fool for being so worried about the flu.

Oh... and it rained here today. I went out and got wet because you weren't wearing a raincoat. There's no other explanation.
 
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Vol423 said:
I’m not celebrating or laughing about anyone’s death. However, nobody should be be coerced by the government or by their employer into getting these vaccines, and the venom from the left is incredibly toxic and destructive.
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It's not just the "left". A few traditional leftists have been speaking out against these mandates. Jimmy Dore, Alex Berenson, etc.

Then you have some conservatives over at National Review and other sites pushing these vaccines and demonizing people who don't get them.

Then you have these so called libertarians, moderates, and "centrists" who thinks it's okay for businesses to have vaccine mandates for their employees. Therefore, showing that these groups care more about the business than they do the right of the individual to make their own decisions. Goes to show how much those groups care about individual freedom.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Does it have to go that far for it to be obscene and unnecessary? Forcing people to choose between a jab or their jobs is unnecessary. having people to get a jab or be locked out of stores, arenas and other venues is unnecessary.

You know good and damn well that all of these are violations of a person's autonomy.
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Is he one of these "libertarians" of Volnation? I'm really glad I stopped identifying as libertarian several years ago.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Does it have to go that far for it to be obscene and unnecessary? Forcing people to choose between a jab or their jobs is unnecessary. having people to get a jab or be locked out of stores, arenas and other venues is unnecessary.

You know good and damn well that all of these are violations of a person's autonomy.
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It goes way beyond 'unnecessary'.
 
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For the medical professionals: is this a potential discovery that shows the vaccines really to be dangerous for people down the road?

 
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n_huffhines said:
Are there tiny little loosely related parallels? Sure, OK. Is this totally pathetic? Definitely.

It's amazing to me how people yearn for the highest levels of victimhood.
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You are also assuming the buck stops here. Precedents are being set. What are you going to do when you disagree with whatever is being mandated by a different president? What if it does become about something you personally view as unnecessary? Demands for freedom have to also include the people you disagree with or there is no freedom at all.

This is exactly why I think we spend way too much time on the atrocities of the Holocaust rather than how the German people got there in the first place. The Hungarian Jews had the same nonchalant attitude that you have until they were being round up. Even then, well into the Holocaust, the camps were merely rumors and scoffed at when millions have already perished. But no, lets allow the beginnings of similar government abuses so we can be dumbstruck about how it led to whatever it will in the future.

This is you:
First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
 
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Here's a statistic and "Science":

From the Pfizer EUA Amendment for ages 5-11:

"Under Scenario 3 (lowest incidence), the model predicts more excess hospitalizations due to vaccine-related myocarditis/pericarditis compared to prevented hospitalizations due to COVID-19 in males and in both sexes combined."

*Scenario 3 most closely represents the current rate of CV infection in the south.
 
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Mother declares she will never vaccinate her child, the poor kid gets hospitalized with COVID pneumonia

This is why we have to find a law that protects children of extremely dumb parents.
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Rasputin_Vol said:
The difference is that the unvaccinated are not out here advocating to remove people from their jobs or isolate them from society. All you got is an insult and a few harsh words and you are on here grandstanding.




Yes, just look at Australia. They are trying to move in the direction of at least isolating the nonvaccinated. Who knows if they are going to go as far as forced labor camps or gas chambers, but it is clear that the unvaccinated are being made into second class citizens through no fault of their own. We didn't ask for the virus to get here more than your side did. You all seem to enjoy vaccines (ineffective vaccines over time, but nevertheless). The unvaccinated are choosing to continue on with their regular lives. You all seem to to take that as a threat.
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Well he is a little bitch, evidenced by his humiliating career choice.
 
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Since the 1st world countries have vaccinated almost anyone that wanted it, why don't they send these jabs to the South American and African continents and make them take it.
 
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kiddiedoc said:
Here's a statistic and "Science":

From the Pfizer EUA Amendment for ages 5-11:

"Under Scenario 3 (lowest incidence), the model predicts more excess hospitalizations due to vaccine-related myocarditis/pericarditis compared to prevented hospitalizations due to COVID-19 in males and in both sexes combined."

*Scenario 3 most closely represents the current rate of CV infection in the south.
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Wasting your breath .. it doesn’t reply , only posts .
 
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