Vaccine or not?

[SpaceCoastVol]

So if someone is fully vaccinated, why is there a need to get tested again?

So if someone is unvaccinated, but actually had the China flu, why is there a need to test us either?

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

Exactly. Glad we can agree Fauci is a hack and a moron.

No, he is a calculating Nazi style government official. There is nothing incompetent or stupid about him.

 

[508mikey]

So if someone is unvaccinated, but actually had the China flu, why is there a need to test us either?

because of good government bs

 

[NorthDallas40]

Senate Republicans to formally challenge Biden OSHA vaccine mandate

 

[LouderVol]

Ugh….

"I happen to believe as an immunologist and infectious disease person, that a third shot boost for an mRNA is likely -- should be part of the actual standard regimen, where a booster isn't a luxury; a booster isn't an add on; and a booster is part of what the original regimen should be -- so that when we look back on this, we're going to see that boosters are essential for an optimal vaccine regimen," Fauci said

I see a big push coming in the future for all vaccines to be mRNA types. $$$$

 

[C-south]

No, he is a calculating Nazi style government official. There is nothing incompetent or stupid about him.

Ah yes, I see it now.

 

[508mikey]

US offering investment to boost COVID-19 vaccine capacity

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Ugh….

"I happen to believe as an immunologist and infectious disease person, that a third shot boost for an mRNA is likely -- should be part of the actual standard regimen, where a booster isn't a luxury; a booster isn't an add on; and a booster is part of what the original regimen should be -- so that when we look back on this, we're going to see that boosters are essential for an optimal vaccine regimen," Fauci said

Will the "normies" every start to question at what point will this end? Will they ever question the effectiveness of these vaccines and boosters? The fact that we are now having to recommend boosters should be an indication that the original rollout was not effective.

 

[Sea Ray]

Senate Republicans to formally challenge Biden OSHA vaccine mandate

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The Congressional Review Act (CRA) can be used by Congress to overturn certain federal agency regulations and actions through a joint resolution of disapproval. If a CRA joint resolution of disapproval is approved by both houses of Congress and signed by the president, or if Congress successfully overrides a presidential veto, the rule at issue is invalidated.

Odds on that happening? I'm glad that Republicans are united in being against this but I don't see this going anywhere

 

[hog88]

Odds on that happening? I'm glad that Republicans are united in being against this but I don't see this going anywhere

No, it surely won't pass both houses.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Senate Republicans to formally challenge Biden OSHA vaccine mandate

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Good luck with this maneuver...

The Congressional Review Act (CRA) can be used by Congress to overturn certain federal agency regulations and actions through a joint resolution of disapproval. If a CRA joint resolution of disapproval is approved by both houses of Congress and signed by the president, or if Congress successfully overrides a presidential veto, the rule at issue is invalidated.

 

[NorthDallas40]

Odds on that happening? I'm glad that Republicans are united in being against this but I don't see this going anywhere

Oh I think it’s an uphill battle but it’s a simple majority in both chambers of congress. All 50 GOP Senators will vote to revoke. Just takes one to forget to vote who doesn’t want to go on record. Similarly just a handful of vunerable Dems in the House.

Worst case it’s more campaign fodder for 2022

 

[Sea Ray]

It's definitely a campaign issue for 2022 and a good one at that

 

[NorthDallas40]

Good luck with this maneuver...

That won’t happen agreed. But again it’s more fodder for 2022 and lends support to SCOTUS to overturn. Clearly this concept lies within Congress’s purview and if they decline then SCOTUS has even more basis to revoke.

SCOTUS will ultimately define whether all this bull **** over reach stands or not. This is just more ammo to help reach that point.

 

[RikidyBones]

Good luck with this maneuver...

At the very least it makes them put their name to it with midterms arriving.

 

[vols4sure]

Oh I think it’s an uphill battle but it’s a simple majority in both chambers of congress. All 50 GOP Senators will vote to revoke. Just takes one to forget to vote who doesn’t want to go on record. Similarly just a handful of vunerable Dems in the House.

Worst case it’s more campaign fodder for 2022

Sounds like a great strategy. Force the representatives to make a stand one way or the other.

 

[NorthDallas40]

Sounds like a great strategy. Force the representatives to make a stand one way or the other.

Yep. This BS is highly unpopular across party lines. Have the bastards choose their constituents or their party fealty

 

[TheDeeble]

Are there any other vaccines that require an unknown amount of shots to be effective? We're up to what now.....3 shots in 8 months with more about to be recommended?

 

[hog88]

That won’t happen agreed. But again it’s more fodder for 2022 and lends support to SCOTUS to overturn. Clearly this concept lies within Congress’s purview and if they decline then SCOTUS has even more basis to revoke.

SCOTUS will ultimately define whether all this bull **** over reach stands or not. This is just more ammo to help reach that point.

I don't even know if SCOTUS can intervene on the Federal employee and contractor mandate.

 

[RikidyBones]

COVID-19 Vaccination and Testing ETS | Occupational Safety and Health Administration

OSHA suspends implementation officially. Granted it's a court order

 

[NorthDallas40]

I don't even know if SCOTUS can intervene on the Federal employee and contractor mandate.

Sure they can. It gets back to whether these mandates are within the powers conveyed on the Executive Branch by the Constitution.

For many of the DoD contractors the vehicle they used to implement this over reach were contract mods (from what I’ve heard at my company) A contract mod doesn’t replace each citizens rights that, if determined to be infringed on by these mandates, then the mod is deemed unenforceable.

 

[hog88]

Sure they can. It gets back to whether these mandates are within the powers conveyed on the Executive Branch by the Constitution.

For many of the DoD contractors the vehicle they used to implement this over reach were contract mods (from what I’ve heard at my company) A contract mod doesn’t replace each citizens rights that, if determined to be infringed on by these mandates, then the mod is deemed unenforceable.

There's a lot of contract mods that infringe on individual rights in .gov contracts.

 

[NorthDallas40]

There's a lot of contract mods that infringe on individual rights in .gov contracts.

Indeed it is. If anything your federal government is very efficient at generating mass amounts of useless policy and legislation

oh and make no mistake common sense never enters into the generation or negotiations on fed contracts.

 

[hog88]

Indeed it is. If anything your federal government is very efficient at generating mass amounts of useless policy and legislation

oh and make no mistake common sense never enters into the generation or negotiations on fed contracts.

Every .gov bid pack I get even at the local level has 20-30 (or more) pages of EEOC, various divestiture disclosures, yada, yada, yada before you ever get to the actual bid.

 

[NorthDallas40]

Every .gov bid pack I get even at the local level has 20-30 (or more) pages of EEOC, various divestiture disclosures, yada, yada, yada before you ever get to the actual bid.

I don’t doubt it.