Vaccine or not?

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Big Orange#1 said:
Yes viruses are a common cause of cancer. Who knows the long term side effects from this gain of function bioweapon.
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I think his follow up question will be, "Then wouldn't be an argument to get vaccinated? If C-19 can be a source of cancers, than getting vaccinated can limit that risk."

What he doesn't realize is that the vaccine doesn't prevent infection from C-19, however.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
I think his follow up question will be, "Then wouldn't be an argument to get vaccinated? If C-19 can be a source of cancers, than getting vaccinated can limit that risk."

What he doesn't realize is that the vaccine doesn't prevent infection from C-19, however.
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Yeah there’s really no protection from the old Fauci flu possibly altering our dna 🧬
 
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VolinWayne said:
The FDA has asked a federal judge to make the public wait until the year 2076 to disclose all of the data and information it relied upon to license Pfizer’s COVID-19 vaccine. That is not a typo. It wants 55 years to produce this information to the public.

FDA Asks Federal Judge to Grant it Until the Year 2076 to Fully Release Pfizer’s COVID-19 Vaccine Data
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@mad4vols @luthervol @evillawyer

Any comments on this silly azz time line to release Pfizer data? That doesn't raise any red flags in your minds?
 
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Sea Ray said:
By all means, post a link here. I'd love to see that.

According to this that came out yesterday, "it's settled" that it came from an animal

COVID-19 Likely Started With A Vendor At Wuhan Animal Market, Says New Analysis
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So they found the first link from a bat cave 1500 miles from Wuhan to the wet market?? I didn’t see that in his report. He said he talked to a bunch of Chinese doctors who all said it came from the market. So did it get to the market from a bat 1500 miles away, or from some “asymptomatic” lab worker from a couple miles away?? Not exactly the strongest evidence. And when he was challenged on this evidence, he fired back that it was disrespectful to not believe the Chinese doctors.

I’m still open to either. But until China and WHO actually let independent investigators examine the lab and the research that was done, lab leak (accidental or otherwise) cannot be ruled out.
 
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newyorkvol said:
So they found the first link from a bat cave 1500 miles from Wuhan to the wet market?? I didn’t see that in his report. He said he talked to a bunch of Chinese doctors who all said it came from the market. So did it get to the market from a bat 1500 miles away, or from some “asymptomatic” lab worker from a couple miles away?? Not exactly the strongest evidence. And when he was challenged on this evidence, he fired back that it was disrespectful to not believe the Chinese doctors.

I’m still open to either. But until China and WHO actually let independent investigators examine the lab and the research that was done, lab leak (accidental or otherwise) cannot be ruled out.
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Why would any sane person believe any government or Big Pharma , their agencies or controlled organizations ( WHO, CDC, FDA,) , that have everything to gain by lying , and nothing to lose ? It amazes me that none of these entities have changed over time , but we have somehow gone from being leary of them to trusting that they have our best interests at heart now . Simply amazing .
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
@mad4vols @luthervol @evillawyer

Any comments on this silly azz time line to release Pfizer data? That doesn't raise any red flags in your minds?
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Wait what? FDA wants 55 years to process FOIA request over vaccine data
"But the FDA can’t simply turn the documents over wholesale. The records must be reviewed to redact “confidential business and trade secret information of Pfizer or BioNTech and personal privacy information of patients who participated in clinical trials,”
The FDA proposes releasing 500 pages per month on a rolling basis, noting that the branch that would handle the review has only 10 employees and is currently processing about 400 other FOIA requests.
To meet the plaintiffs’ proposed FOIA deadline, the FDA would have to process a daunting 80,000 pages a month."

I'm sure the FDA will receive additional money and man power in order to speed up the release.
 
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luthervol said:
Wait what? FDA wants 55 years to process FOIA request over vaccine data
"But the FDA can’t simply turn the documents over wholesale. The records must be reviewed to redact “confidential business and trade secret information of Pfizer or BioNTech and personal privacy information of patients who participated in clinical trials,”
The FDA proposes releasing 500 pages per month on a rolling basis, noting that the branch that would handle the review has only 10 employees and is currently processing about 400 other FOIA requests.
To meet the plaintiffs’ proposed FOIA deadline, the FDA would have to process a daunting 80,000 pages a month."

I'm sure the FDA will receive additional money and man power in order to speed up the release.
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This is the kind of crap that just adds fuel to the fire. Gov wants people vaccinated?? Providing this info would go a long way in allaying some of the more common reasons for vaccine hesitancy.
 
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newyorkvol said:
This is the kind of crap that just adds fuel to the fire. Gov wants people vaccinated?? Providing this info would go a long way in allaying some of the more common reasons for vaccine hesitancy.
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I agree. The info should be released as quickly as possible.
But the headlines make it sound like they want to wait 55 years until the year 2076 to release the data. That simply isn't true.
 
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newyorkvol said:
This is the kind of crap that just adds fuel to the fire. Gov wants people vaccinated?? Providing this info would go a long way in allaying some of the more common reasons for vaccine hesitancy.
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Plus, protecting their "confidential" business interests in a situation- wait, better word, "emergency"- where they are protected from every kind of liability reeks. If it's an emergency, and there is a need to get people the therapy, and they were given all the money they needed to put development into "warp speed", then they have virtually nothing they should be allowed to hide.
 
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newyorkvol said:
I had seen this letter someplace earlier. It’s interesting the part that says it’s <0.1% different than other CV’s. How many times have we heard reports of researchers finding other CV’s from bats in caves that are 95 or 98% similar to Covid??
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Notice that an entire team of experts found the genome "inconsistent with expectations from an evolutionary theory." Yet at the time, anyone suggesting publicly that it was lab-created was ridiculed and censored.
 
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508mikey said:
if the vax doesnt work neither will a booster - lot of people I know that got the vax are saying, Im done with this stuff
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I don't know if I shared here, but my mom had so many issues with #3 that she said "enough". She's still having side effects well over a month later.
 
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