Vaccine or not?

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0nelilreb said:
They better hope not even a tenth of that number is true . Skilled labor isn’t cheap and cheap labor isn’t skilled . It will cause more problems than we can deal with right now .
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Honestly, I wouldn’t be surprised if they have a plan to hire illegals and have them take as many jobs as they can.
 
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UT_VOLS13 said:
Fauci vague on changing definition of 'fully vaccinated': 'We might modify'
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There's a shock. They're getting ready to define fully vaccinated as being vaccinated over and over again on an ever-shortening time frame. When are the CDC and FDA going to come clean and admit the obvious. These are NOT vaccines. They are shots - no different than the flu shot. They don't necessarily prevent you from getting Covid, and they don't prevent you from spreading it. Just like the flu shot, there should be ZERO requirement to get these shots (and I don't agree with medical professionals being required by some organizations to get annual flu shots).
 
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Vol423 said:
Surprise! You won't find it searching with Google. They've suppressed it. I found it searching with DuckDuckGo.

FDA report finds all-cause mortality higher among vaccinated
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The FDA report, however, revealed a larger number of deaths by all causes in both groups, with 17 deaths among the control group and 21 in the vaccinated cohort.
The relative difference in all-cause deaths between the two cohorts amounts to 23.5%, though the absolute number of deaths was small – 38 total for all participants in the trial.”

Ahh so 38 total non COVID deaths among the 22,000 participants. 17 among placebo and 21 with the shots. So it’s just percentage based fear mongering about the vaccines. Kind of like the percentage fear mongering from the corona-bros about the “100% increase in covid deaths in nashville hospital” when it goes from 2 to 4
 
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Does anyone have any good data for some of the more traditional (inactivated virus) vaccines out there that are WHO approved? Side effects, effectiveness, etc.?
 
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ButchPlz said:
Does anyone have any good data for some of the more traditional (inactivated virus) vaccines out there that are WHO approved? Side effects, effectiveness, etc.?
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I’m going to offer this. The last vaccines I received at age 12 are still showing high immunity markers at 55. So either they are stellar 40 years ago or I’ve been exposed to measles, mumps, rubella and a multitude of other things to reboost my immunity. Figure that one out.
 
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NurseGoodVol said:
I’m going to offer this. The last vaccines I received at age 12 are still showing high immunity markers at 55. So either they are stellar 40 years ago or I’ve been exposed to measles, mumps, rubella and a multitude of other things to reboost my immunity. Figure that one out.
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We're considering one of the more normal ones while we're out of the country but I don't want to just blindly do that either.
 
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