Vaccine or not?

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DynaLo said:
What you refuse to understand is that getting these shots is a personal decision based on individual circumstances. It is not, should not be and will never be a one size fits all circumstance.

If someone ends up making a wrong decision for themselves, then so be it, it happens on the daily around the globe for various reasons. They still exercised their god given free will of choice.

It’s not like the shots do anything at all to mitigate the spread of Covid to others. They might reduce symptoms in someone vaxxed, but now you just have someone with little to no symptoms thinking they are safe, because of the the associated propaganda, out spreading the virus.
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It’s a free country nobody is forcing anyone to get a shot, of course it’s your choice. The country is divided on the issue. It’s okay, to have a different opinion.
 
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MurphyVol said:
Like Trump, Biden is way too liberal for me.

I'm just pointing out that Trump is in on the conspiracy (whatever it is this week) with everyone else.

Frankly, I couldn't care less who takes the shot.
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Mmmmkay. And what person mentioned above is trying to force people to get 'vaxxed'? Biden is far more evil, and is actually worthy of outrage.
 
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mad4vols said:
Wanting people to not die or end up in the ER is not an agenda. You guys get tiring. If I post someone who was stubborn and promoting antivax info dies of Covid while their family was begging them to get vaccinated you guys say I’m celebrating death . While I’m simply trying to tell you this is real, it’s not all left vs right etc.
Here is an example even though I know I’ll get roasted, because that’s the point, discredit anything anyone with another viewpoint says by saying I celebrate death.



Anyways, if it makes you feel better that you won the argument, great, enjoy it.
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It’s not about roasting, you are down right ghoulish with this crap.
 
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mad4vols said:
It’s a free country nobody is forcing anyone to get a shot, of course it’s your choice. The country is divided on the issue. It’s okay, to have a different opinion.
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Some sure as hell are trying real hard to force it by creating rock and a hard place choices, which aren’t truly a choice when “No thanks, I’ll pass” should be reason enough for refusal based on personal choice.

Those scenarios are when it exits the realm of a health safety issue and becomes purely a societal control issue. Creating the fear and neurosis required to “other” a segment of society is in itself a health safety issue for a myriad of reasons. Have we learned nothing of divisiveness from history?
 
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kiddiedoc said:
Hope y'all recover quickly and uneventfully.
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I had symptoms earlier this week that are basically gone, so I assume I showed it first. Wife has a fever that's pretty high but otherwise none of the other symptoms. She's just bundled up in bed resting. The doctor told her not to worry about it, just stay away from other people.
 
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mad4vols said:
It’s a free country nobody is forcing anyone to get a shot, of course it’s your choice. The country is divided on the issue. It’s okay, to have a different opinion.
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Except for all the mandates and all the people losing their jobs for refusing the shot. Don't winter vacation in the heart of Washington State. They fired all their snow plow drivers for not vaccinating. Don't have enough drivers to keep roads clear right now. Oh, and the WSU football coach. And the needed healthcare workers and nurses that have lost their jobs for their "freedom of choice." Boy the appreciation for their front line work soured quick didn't it?
 
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ButchPlz said:
My wife has COVID, and is unvaxxed, and I probably have it too. The sad thing is if something happens to either of us he'd be in here celebrating another unvaxxed person down.
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On a positive note, you both just got immunized. More good than his vax memes will ever produce.

I now have both the vax and natural immunity. Acquired my natural immunity cause the vax ain't worth sh**. Didn't even know I was self-immunizing. And I'm 56 with a history of Bronchitis and Rhino virus and felt nothing whatsoever. Bring on the crazed meme guy.
 
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GVF said:
On a positive note, you both just got immunized. More good than his vax memes will ever produce.
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Agree, that's why I am way good with this. She was a little nervous but the doctor literally told her at her age and health she has zero to worry about- just stay hydrated and rest up.
 
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DynaLo said:
Some sure as hell are trying real hard to force it by creating rock and a hard place choices, which aren’t truly a choice when “No thanks, I’ll pass” should be reason enough for refusal based on personal choice.

Those scenarios are when it exits the realm of a health safety issue and becomes purely a societal control issue. Creating the fear and neurosis required to “other” a segment of society is in itself a health safety issue for a myriad of reasons. Have we learned nothing of divisiveness from history?
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Or we all live in a society during a pandemic and it’s as simple as that.
 
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GVF said:
Except for all the mandates and all the people losing their jobs for refusing the shot. Don't winter vacation in the heart of Washington State. They fired all their snow plow drivers for not vaccinating. Don't have enough drivers to keep roads clear right now. Oh, and the WSU football coach. And the needed healthcare workers and nurses that have lost their jobs for their "freedom of choice." Boy the appreciation for their front line work soured quick didn't it?
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Dos you ever see me discussing the mandates, nope.
 
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ButchPlz said:
Agree, that's why I am way good with this. She was a little nervous but the doctor literally told her at her age and health she has zero to worry about- just stay hydrated and rest up.
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Glad ya'll got a mild case.

I was looking for my dilution of Ivomec I used for my dogs. Rub a little on my forearm. could find it. But it was really old dilution probably over 10 years atleast. Not sure if it expires since I couldn't find it. Maybe I tossed it. I bet I get a few good blasts from that revelation.
 
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mad4vols said:
Dos you ever see me discussing the mandates, nope.
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Duh! You can't discuss mandates and proclaim freedom of choice and being OK to have different opinions in the same universe. But, dang if you don't make a solid attempt.
 
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mad4vols said:
Or we all live in a society during a pandemic and it’s as simple as that.
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Society doesn’t engage in a total group think consensus about anything. Dividing society in order to dictate any forms of governance over what is granted by the Creator is heading towards a slippery slope with a dangerous ending.
 
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So the democrat high priest Fauci said to disinvite the unvaccinated for Christmas. Democrats really do love segregation.
 
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The Trump counties are also more rural. The vaccination rates look like they are about 76% and 56%, so not a gigantic difference, yet people from the latter group are almost 3x as likely to die.

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