Vaccine or not?

[tnmarktx]

How about after it has gone through the usual approval process?

And even then, I didn't get the flu vaccine so I likely wouldn't get these even if they were optional instead of mandatory.

Some in the medical field do not consider mRNA vaccines effective at all.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

What is the point of asking me if I thought it will convince people?

It was in response to you saying you figured your Twitter post wouldn't convince me.

Yeah, I never figured this would scare you or change your mind.

Was it supposed to convince anyone?

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Yep, the one good thing about Covid is it has taken the mask off a lot of people.

Family, friends, neighbors, co-workers...

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Holy smokes, I think you've stumbled onto a subject where we'd get along quite nicely.

When I lived in the Cleveland 'burbs last year, we had four hardwired internet carrier options, plus Verizon and TMobile home internet via cell. Every option was fast and cheap.

Now we're in Western Maryland with only one choice and it's slow and expensive, even though we're living in an equally dense population area. Drives me batty.

We live in a complex world. There are going to be occasions when venn diagrams intersect.

 

[Orangeslice13]

I’m confused.
which side currently doesn’t trust the CDC?
I’m having trouble keeping up.

 

[VolStrom]

I’m confused.
which side currently doesn’t trust the CDC?
I’m having trouble keeping up.

Is Fauci with the CDC or the NIH? We need more 3 letter acronyms for the .gov

 

[DynaLo]

Is Fauci with the CDC or the NIH? We need more 3 letter acronyms for the .gov

I’d like to suggest SOB or POS.

 

[Septic]

That's scattered over a 40+ year period. We're looking at about half that number since the vaccines came out this year. That represents either a cluster or a coincidence.

This isn't an exhaustive list, just notables. As was pointed out by another poster, fit people die all the time while exerting themselves.

Trying to tie it to a narrative without evidence is expected from you nutty anti vaxxers but it's still not convincing.

 

[Septic]

How about after it has gone through the usual approval process?

And even then, I didn't get the flu vaccine so I likely wouldn't get these even if they were optional instead of mandatory.

It's fully approved isn't it, not just emergency use authorized?

Does that mean you trust it?

 

[NorthDallas40]

It's fully approved isn't it, not just emergency use authorized?

Does that mean you trust it?

So from reading on what vax’s are available in the US the FDA approved ones are basically non existent in the US as they aren’t granted liability immunity. So what is still available is the EUA versions only which they are still protected from liability on.

 

[kiddiedoc]

Just heard that 96 NFL players tested positive today and are in the "COVID protocol." Guess they need another booster!

 

[kiddiedoc]

So from reading on what vax’s are available in the US the FDA approved ones are basically non existent in the US as they aren’t granted liability immunity. So what is still available is the EUA versions only which they are still protected from liability on.

Correct. It's a legal formality, and a sneaky one, at that.

 

[Sandman 423]

Is your employer not paying you for every minute you’re clocked in?

@tnmarktx sounds like a guy that spends a lot of time in the bathroom. We call them TK’s.

 

[tnmarktx]

It's fully approved isn't it, not just emergency use authorized?

Does that mean you trust it?

So big pharma lost their pass from liability?

 

[kiddiedoc]

So big pharma lost their pass from liability?

They have not.

 

[NorthDallas40]

Correct. It's a legal formality, and a sneaky one, at that.

Yep I thought I remembered reading a judicial ruling on it and found this. The FDA went to the trouble to explicitly state Comirnaty was legally distinct from the EUA version regardless of formulation. Doesn’t exactly build confidence.

Federal Judge Rejects DOD Claim That Pfizer EUA and Comirnaty Vaccines Are ‘Interchangeable’

 

[tnmarktx]

They have not.

It's suppose to be totally safe. What's the need for the pass?

 

[tnmarktx]

@tnmarktx sounds like a guy that spends a lot of time in the bathroom. We call them TK’s.

I get paid for what I know, not what I do?

 

[kiddiedoc]

It's suppose to be totally safe. What's the need for the pass?

"Supposed to be" is unacceptable for many people.

 

[tnmarktx]

"Supposed to be" is unacceptable for many people.

I wonder why those arguing how safe it is, do not question why they need this pass?

 

[NorthDallas40]

"Supposed to be" is unacceptable for many people.

Nor is it legally binding.

 

[tnmarktx]

Nor is it legally binding.

So they can be sued?

 

[NorthDallas40]

So they can be sued?

Only on the FDA approved PFizer Comirnaty version. All others are still under EUA with liability protection.

And no just because you’re getting PFizer now doesn’t mean it’s Comirnaty in fact there’s a very high likelihood it isn’t.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

I’m confused.
which side currently doesn’t trust the CDC?
I’m having trouble keeping up.

And that right there is the problem... you just put your finger squarely on it.

If you have zero credibility to the point where neither side of the debate believes you, who is to blame for that?

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

It's fully approved isn't it, not just emergency use authorized?

Does that mean you trust it?

It was approved in a rushed manner. You know this. We have no long term data on what this nonsense will do 5 years down the line.