Vaccine or not?

[OutofStateFan]

Which I addressed and you couldn't back up so you moved to the vaccines. There are no studies showing the drugs you listed are effective.

You just want to repeat talking points that you heard on one podcast

Trust me, I have read MANY articles, viewed the official databases, and listened to many podcasts and interviews and the DC panel.

Which I addressed and you couldn't back up so you moved to the vaccines. There are no studies showing the drugs you listed are effective.

You just want to repeat talking points that you heard on one podcast

Please see the articles posted. Not trying to be contentious. I just truly believe that early treatment and a stoked immune system (Vit D, C, K2, zinc, Quercetin, and maybe melatonin) are key to preventing deaths.

 

[AdoptedVOL]

I've listened to the entire thing when it came out. I've also read the critiques posted here which question his version of the facts. Have you read those as well?

I did read something challenging McCulloughs interview that was posted on this thread. It was not very good from some Dr Z with questionable credentials (in fact I didn’t see his creds listed in the article).

Again McCullough does a great job presenting research and studies. It’s not his version of facts. It’s science. He has impeccable creds.

 

[AdoptedVOL]

Let’s please remember the best defense against Covid is good general health. Many deaths have been the result of obesity and other co-morbidities.

honestly, if someone is over weight and comes at me because I’m not wearing a mask or haven’t been vax’d I get in their face and tell them to come back after they’ve lost a few.

 

[lawgator1]

Florida had 78k cases yesterday.

 

[VolStrom]

Florida had 78k cases yesterday.

How many were snow birds?

 

[AdoptedVOL]

Florida has shown great leadership.

Interesting how the narrative has moved away from deaths.

 

[utvolpj]

Florida had 78k cases yesterday.

What's the 7 day average?

 

[hog88]

Florida had 78k cases yesterday.

How many died?

 

[utvolpj]

Please see the articles posted. Not trying to be contentious. I just truly believe that early treatment and a stoked immune system (Vit D, C, K2, zinc, Quercetin, and maybe melatonin) are key to preventing deaths.

Do you also believe the lack of early use of Hydroxichloriquin and ivermectin has killed hundreds of thousands? That was what I disagreed with wrt early treatment. I think that claim is ludicrous

 

[AdoptedVOL]

What's the 7 day average?

Column B is cases and column C is deaths (7 day average).

 

[AdoptedVOL]

Column B is cases and column C is deaths (7 day average).

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And TN

 

[OutofStateFan]

Do you also believe the lack of early use of Hydroxichloriquin and ivermectin has killed hundreds of thousands? That was what I disagreed with wrt early treatment. I think that claim is ludicrous

I think lack of early treatments, some deaths classified incorrectly (lots of co-morbidities, etc.), and approaches taken in hospitals (I.e., ventilators, remdesivir (known to cause organ shutdown)) all contributed. I wouldn’t claim a number… but I think the number was significant!!

 

[NurseGoodVol]

Megan's advice is: being vaccinated is the safest approach to COVID her "feelings" about natural immunity? I have no idea.

You’ve never discussed it?

 

[AshG]

Again McCullough does a great job presenting research and studies. It’s not his version of facts. It’s science. He has impeccable creds.

He does a great job of presenting the research and studies that back up his position. You don't get fired from and a restraining order against you by a major hospital without sufficient cause.

 

[NurseGoodVol]

Do you also believe the lack of early use of Hydroxichloriquin and ivermectin has killed hundreds of thousands? That was what I disagreed with wrt early treatment. I think that claim is ludicrous

Well PJ we won’t really ever know. Hcq was shut down early by cdc recommendations and ivermectin has been put on the political cross.

 

[hog88]

Well PJ we won’t really ever know. Hcq was shut down early by cdc recommendations and ivermectin has been put on the political cross.

How would you know? Come on who the F do you think you are? A front line nurse that has treated hundreds if not thousands of Covid patients? PJ is a the expert here, he reads science!

 

[aurabass]

Right answer. I have my clinic picked out when needed. Unfortunately the Biden admin does not seem to agree and is dialing back allocation of monoclonal antibodies to states.

McMullough and other docs are communicating across the world and continue to dial in treatments. It’s too bad more leaders haven’t tuned into McCullough.

The lack of early use of Hydroxichloriquin and ivermectin has killed hundreds of thousands.

See my brother in Sevierville - he is the Monoclonal master. Dr Charles H. Bozeman

 

[AdoptedVOL]

See my brother in Sevierville - he is the Monoclonal master. Dr Charles H. Bozeman

Of the John M Bozeman clan I presume? I know John M had roots in GA. If so, very cool.

 

[aurabass]

You’ve never discussed it?

We discussed the efficacy of vaccination for me. 2 brothers, sis in law Megan & 2 more Docs in the family
At 75 having just experienced a recent stroke with 10 days in hospital the consensus was get the Vaccine
My brother hit me with the Moderna on the way to the hospital on Sept 3 and Mac's pharmacy hit me with #2 on Oct 6 along with a flu shot. Now I'm one Shingx short of a full boat on vaccines. My daughter is convinced the natural immunity route is best for her.
At my age in a hospital setting the vaccine was best for me.

 

[aurabass]

Of the John M Bozeman clan I presume? I know John M had roots in GA. If so, very cool.

We are among the closest living relatives - my great X 5 grandfather was John M.'s father's younger brother but he was only 2 years older than John Merin BOZEMAN GENEOLOGY - BOZEMANIA THE BOZEMAN BLOG JOHN MERIN'S FATHER WILLIAM AND MY GREAT X5 GRANDFATHER WERE SON'S OF AMOS AND NANCY TARBUTTON BOZEMAN from Cherokee Co. Ga - Ballground, Tate, Marblehill area

JOHN M BOZEMAN MARKER - BOZEMAN MONTANA

favorite image of daughter with reflections of John M Bozeman at Museum of the Rockies

 

[AdoptedVOL]

We are among the closest living relatives - my great X 5 grandfather was John M.'s father's younger brother but he was only 2 years older than John Merin BOZEMAN GENEOLOGY - BOZEMANIA THE BOZEMAN BLOG JOHN MERIN'S FATHER WILLIAM AND MY GREAT X5 GRANDFATHER WERE SON'S OF AMOS AND NANCY TARBUTTON BOZEMAN from Cherokee Co. Ga - Ballground, Tate, Marblehill area

JOHN M BOZEMAN MARKER - BOZEMAN MONTANA

Very very cool. I just finished a podcast series (Legends of the Old West) that talked about the Bozeman Road, Little Big Horn, and you know the story well. We’re planning a trip next fall to visit SD, ND, MT, ID.

You’re fortunate to be able to trace your heritage to such a great piece of history.

 

[NorthDallas40]

Florida had 78k cases yesterday.

Worldmeter says you’re fake news.

 

[aurabass]

Very very cool. I just finished a podcast series (Legends of the Old West) that talked about the Bozeman Road, Little Big Horn, and you know the story well. We’re planning a trip next fall to visit SD, ND, MT, ID.

You’re fortunate to be able to trace your heritage to such a great piece of history.

You might enjoy this THE BOZEMAN TRAIL PBS DOC it became known as The Bloody Bozeman
on my parents 60th anniversary we flew to Boulder to join my daughter & family with all the brothers and drove north to Cheyenne and up the path of the trail to Sheridan Wyoming and across some of the most spectacular roads in the USA The Chief Joseph Highway to the place where

this sign sits and this one

The trail up the Powder River valley was on Cheyenne reservation land and The Fetterman Massacre happened as a result along with Sand Creek - Little Big Horn and other atrocities. The gold in Montana was more important.
The Gateway to Yellowstone is a cool little town where Montana State provides students who have art galleries, bars and restaurants. It is now becoming overcrowded with California refugees from fire. I often wish I had moved there years ago since no Bozeman's live in Bozeman
Check out The Chief Joseph Scenic Byway if you are driving across Wyoming to Montana - spectacular

 

[AdoptedVOL]

You might enjoy this THE BOZEMAN TRAIL PBS DOC it became known as The Bloody Bozeman
on my parents 60th anniversary we flew to Boulder to join my daughter & family with all the brothers and drove north to Cheyenne and up the path of the trail to Sheridan Wyoming and across some of the most spectacular roads in the USA The Chief Joseph Highway to the place where

this sign sits and this one

The trail up the Powder River valley was on Cheyenne reservation land and The Fetterman Massacre happened as a result along with Sand Creek - Little Big Horn and other atrocities. The gold in Montana was more important.
The Gateway to Yellowstone is a cool little town where Montana State provides students who have art galleries, bars and restaurants. It is now becoming overcrowded with California refugees from fire. I often wish I had moved there years ago since no Bozeman's live in Bozeman
Check out The Chief Joseph Scenic Byway if you are driving across Wyoming to Montana - spectacular

Thanks for sharing and I’ll save that byway recommendation. Funny thing is, my interest in the west and Indian culture actually started in the early 70s with a song by JD Blackfoot called the Song of Crazy Horse. A lot of accurate history in those lyrics.

If needed, you can have the last word. We totally hi-jacked this thread.

 

[AdoptedVOL]

We discussed the efficacy of vaccination for me. 2 brothers, sis in law Megan & 2 more Docs in the family
At 75 having just experienced a recent stroke with 10 days in hospital the consensus was get the Vaccine
My brother hit me with the Moderna on the way to the hospital on Sept 3 and Mac's pharmacy hit me with #2 on Oct 6 along with a flu shot. Now I'm one Shingx short of a full boat on vaccines. My daughter is convinced the natural immunity route is best for her.
At my age in a hospital setting the vaccine was best for me.

And we all need reliable information so we can make decisions about our own health. The key to Covid is doing what we can to stay healthy and out of the hospitals.