Vaccine or not?

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aurabass said:
Yeah no what? I simply passed on advice from a leader in the field of Epidemiology available to me as a relative. Personally I'll take the advice of my Harvard educated Harvard medical staff professor who worked on the vaccines from the beginning. And my UT Medical educated brother who is on the front lines in Sevierville where travelers and residents present significant problems and data to bolster his experience - Vaccines are effective and safer than the alternative, and my Public Health doctorate holding brother whose job it is to track the efficacy of various treatments for epidemic virus outbreaks. You can take it or leave it. I like the advice of professionals - particularly relatives.
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Good for you. I’ll take my natural immunity and the few days of drowsiness that came with it. Your medically educated family should know then that it poses a serious risk to a select few subsets of the population and little risk to everyone not in those groups. If they can’t acknowledge that, then they’re disingenuous or blind to what’s actually happening in the world.
 
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AdoptedVOL said:
Thanks for sharing and I’ll save that byway recommendation. Funny thing is, my interest in the west and Indian culture actually started in the early 70s with a song by JD Blackfoot called the Song of Crazy Horse. A lot of accurate history in those lyrics.

If needed, you can have the last word. We totally hi-jacked this thread. 😀
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I don't "need" the last word but I would call this a scenic detour rather than a hi-jacking.
 
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The lack of treatment is one thing that makes so many of hesitant to believe mainstream narratives about this disease. So many doctor’s will send you home with nothing more than a positive Covid test, a medical bill, and a high five when you test positive.

Happened to my GF’s mother at an urgent care today. She came in to be tested (fever, cough, pulse ox around 92), got a positive test and then sent home.
 
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Vol8188 said:
The lack of treatment is one thing that makes so many of hesitant to believe mainstream narratives about this disease. So many doctor’s will send you home with nothing more than a positive Covid test, a medical bill, and a high five when you test positive.

Happened to my GF’s mother at an urgent care today. She came in to be tested (fever, cough, pulse ox around 92), got a positive test and then sent home.
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Let’s not forget the government’s restriction of monoclonal antibodies. No one can get them right now. Turkey Creek is limiting them to in patient only due to a lack of supply. That’s the only place of the ten we’ve called that even has them.
 
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Males under 40 years old are more likely to experience heart inflammation after getting a booster shot of Pfizer’s COVID-19 vaccine than COVID-19 itself, according to a recently published study.

Males in the age group had a myocarditis incidence rate ratio of 7.6 in the 28 days following receipt of a Pfizer booster, researchers with the University of Oxford and other UK institutions found.

That was higher than the ratio of 2 in the four weeks following a positive COVID-19 test result.

“For the first time, we observe an increase in myocarditis events following a third dose of BNT162b vaccine,” researchers wrote in their study, which has not been peer reviewed as of yet.


Young Men More Likely to Get Heart Inflammation After Pfizer’s Booster Than COVID-19: Study Young Men More Likely to Get Heart Inflammation After Pfizer's Booster Than COVID-19: Study

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VolinWayne said:
Males under 40 years old are more likely to experience heart inflammation after getting a booster shot of Pfizer’s COVID-19 vaccine than COVID-19 itself, according to a recently published study.

Males in the age group had a myocarditis incidence rate ratio of 7.6 in the 28 days following receipt of a Pfizer booster, researchers with the University of Oxford and other UK institutions found.

That was higher than the ratio of 2 in the four weeks following a positive COVID-19 test result.

“For the first time, we observe an increase in myocarditis events following a third dose of BNT162b vaccine,” researchers wrote in their study, which has not been peer reviewed as of yet.


Young Men More Likely to Get Heart Inflammation After Pfizer’s Booster Than COVID-19: Study Young Men More Likely to Get Heart Inflammation After Pfizer's Booster Than COVID-19: Study

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Makes sense if true given the mass increase from shot 1 to 2 that shot 3 would be even worse
 
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Vol8188 said:
Makes sense if true given the mass increase from shot 1 to 2 that shot 3 would be even worse
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The absolute **** reporting of the Epoch Times leaves out the second part of the "ratio" (heh).

The increase is from 2 in 100000 to 7.6 in 100000.

The official news outlet of the Falon Gong cult. What a bastion of quality.
 
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AshG said:
The absolute **** reporting of the Epoch Times leaves out the second part of the "ratio" (heh).

The increase is from 2 in 100000 to 7.6 in 100000.

The official news outlet of the Falon Gong cult. What a bastion of quality.
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If it’s true that it’s greater than the rate of those getting it from Covid, it’s significant
 
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AshG said:
p < 0.001. It may be psychologically significant, but not mathematically.
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Only if you enjoy misapplying statistics. The correct way to do that would be to all the possibility of death or any serious illness. Not look at one thing in isolation and say “it’s safe because the p of this is only 0.0008” “and this other issue is only 0.0005” and so on
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
He’s not wrong.
But a split category would be nice.

Hospitalization and has Covid
Hospitalization with Covid as only issue.

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I mentioned it before, but any patient testing positive on mandatory hospital testing that is asymptomatic and there for an unrelated diagnosis should just be considered a “case.”
 
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newyorkvol said:
I mentioned it before, but any patient testing positive on mandatory hospital testing that is asymptomatic and there for an unrelated diagnosis should just be considered a “case.”
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Something needs to be done to determine the difference. If we’re actually trying to figure it out.

And how do we really know how many are actually positive? I’m on vacation in Florida. Everyone here is vaccinated. My wife is high risk so she and I are both boosted. We all have cold symptoms. Don’t want to assume so we looked around for a Covid test. Nobody has them. Not even the hospital. So ….. maybe we have Covid with mild symptoms or maybe we have a cold. A pharmacist buddy told my there are also currently a lot of respiratory viruses going around now. So maybe that’s it.
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
Something needs to be done to determine the difference. If we’re actually trying to figure it out.

And how do we really know how many are actually positive? I’m on vacation in Florida. Everyone here is vaccinated. My wife is high risk so she and I are both boosted. We all have cold symptoms. Don’t want to assume so we looked around for a Covid test. Nobody has them. Not even the hospital. So ….. maybe we have Covid with mild symptoms or maybe we have a cold. A pharmacist buddy told my there are also currently a lot of respiratory viruses going around now. So maybe that’s it.
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I’m laying in bed right now with a head cold. I didn’t get tested for similar reasons. I’m also on antibiotics due to what is clearly a secondary bacterial infection. I’m off till next Tuesday so it’s moot I’m just staying away from people.
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
He’s not wrong.
But a split category would be nice.

Hospitalization and has Covid
Hospitalization with Covid as only issue.

For those of us who want to know what’s actually happening
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It’s not just kids. Everyone that is admitted is being tested, whether Covid symptoms present or not.

Would love to see census numbers now compared to say December 2019.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
I’m laying in bed right now with a head cold. I didn’t get tested for similar reasons. I’m also on antibiotics due to what is clearly a secondary bacterial infection. I’m off till next Tuesday so it’s moot I’m just staying away from people.
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That’s what this feels like. mild headache and a mild stuffy nose and feel week.
 
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