Vaccine or not?

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Orangeslice13 said:
So have I.
He presents himself as the inventor.
He’s not.
It wasn’t his idea.
It wasn’t his team
He wasn’t the lead.
He worked on the project ….someone else’s project.
He didn’t get paid.
Thanks what this is about for him
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And what's it about for Fauci?
 
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Vol8188 said:
The lack of treatment is one thing that makes so many of hesitant to believe mainstream narratives about this disease. So many doctor’s will send you home with nothing more than a positive Covid test, a medical bill, and a high five when you test positive.

Happened to my GF’s mother at an urgent care today. She came in to be tested (fever, cough, pulse ox around 92), got a positive test and then sent home.
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With no ambulatory care plan or medicine regimen. Just good luck.
 
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VolStrom said:
This is what pisses me off about Biden. He has no plan for treating the people that get sick. His entire plan is get the vax and if you don't tough sh!t sherlock.
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Meanwhile, basically every one of my wife's vax-crazy friends from college and my neighbor currently have CV.
 
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kiddiedoc said:
Meanwhile, basically every one of my wife's vax-crazy friends from college and my neighbor currently have CV.
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I think everyone is going to get it.
The good news is the Omni variant appears to be the step to endemic.

In an unrelated story, 2 years ago I got the type B influenza. That was one of the strains covered by that year’s flu vaccine. My case was very mild but I got it.
It happens
 
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from The American Thinker
COVID testing has become ridiculous and even counterproductive
By Andrea Widburg


The omicron version of COVID is so mild that it's indistinguishable from a cold. Many people are asymptomatic. We also know now that early COVID counts were almost certainly wrong because the dominant test used was unable to distinguish between COVID and the regular flu. Nevertheless, Joe Biden has invested almost $140 million in a German company that will build a home-test plant in America...by 2024.
It's no secret at this point that omicron was o-versold. It's so negligible that many people know they have it only because they've been tested. Even those who have symptoms feel only as if they've got a cold. They just identify as omicron-sick. You only need to look at the hugely different trend lines between cases and deaths to understand that omicron is a big nothing:
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Indeed, omicron may or may not be extremely contagious. That's hard to know because the CDC, after announcing that 73% of all COVID cases in America were now omicron, backtracked and now says that only 23% are, with the remainder being the delta variant. But if these cases are the delta variant, they must be pretty darn mild if they're indistinguishable from omicron and cases are dropping.
In any event, it's entirely possible that COVID has been grossly overcounted from the beginning. That's because it turns out that the PCR test was unable to distinguish between COVID and the flu. Democrats insisted that the flu vanished because of the masks and social distancing, but it now appears the flu dropped off the radar because all cases were misclassified as COVID.
And of course, there's the little problem that vaccinated people are the ones most likely to get omicron. Thankfully, they're not getting very sick, but that fact utterly destroys the narrative about the unvaccinated keeping COVID alive in America.




























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Currently, the only thing that's keeping COVID in the headlines is the mania for testing. I know a woman who posts on Facebook at least once a month about getting tested. It's not clear that she's ever been seriously symptomatic. Instead, every sniffle or cough sends her rushing out to get a test. The tests are a hypochondriac's dream.
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Image: Home COVID test. Freepik license.
Using as his starting point the home COVID tests that D.C. is handing out, Christopher Bedford explains why those tests are so stupid:
Staring at this kit Wednesday morning, sniffling, I thought, "Why would I do that?"
Seriously, why the hell would I do that? Do I live in Florida, where if seriously ill, I'll be given access to monoclonal antibody treatments while family, friends, and neighbors go about their lives? Do I live in Georgia or Texas, where I'd receive the same? Or Tennessee, Alabama, Mississippi, or Louisiana?
Or do I live in a city where the numbers will be rushed to the press, schools will be shuttered, mask mandates will be extended, new restrictions on the eternally wicked "unvaccinated" will be rolled out, and if I have a bad case I'll have to drive hours to find a pharmacy willing to fill a doctor's prescription?​
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The tests do nothing but allow bureaucrats and the media to keep the panic going. It's over.
But Biden understands the continued need for panic. That's why he just signed a deal for $137 million with a German company to build a Wisconsin factory to produce more COVID test kids...by late 2024:
The Biden administration struck a $137 million deal to build a new factory in the U.S. to ramp up production of COVID-19 testing kits — but the new facility won't be completed until late 2024 at the earliest.
MilliporeSigma, a brand formed by Germany's Merck KGaA, will build a new factory in Sheboygan, Wisconsin, the Defense Department announced as the U.S. hit a high record of 489,267 COVID cases on Wednesday
While the contract gives the company three years to complete the facility, it is not immediately clear when it will ramp up to full production, which is expected to pump out 83.3 million tests per month.​
This plan is not as stupid as it appears. Democrats have figured out that the descendants of those Americans who fought a revolution during a smallpox epidemic, who battled through the Civil War, World War I, World War II, the Korean War, the Vietnam War, and both Gulf Wars; who survived journeys (voluntary or enslaved) across dangerous oceans; who lived through depressions and recessions; who traveled thousands of miles in covered wagons; and who populated a dangerous wilderness can be controlled completely if they're told they have a cold or the flu with a 1% mortality rate for people who are very old or have comorbidities.
Knowing that, if you wanted permanent political power, wouldn't you also make sure that Americans are constantly told that they're very, very sick?
 
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Caculator said:
from The American Thinker
COVID testing has become ridiculous and even counterproductive
By Andrea Widburg


The omicron version of COVID is so mild that it's indistinguishable from a cold. Many people are asymptomatic. We also know now that early COVID counts were almost certainly wrong because the dominant test used was unable to distinguish between COVID and the regular flu. Nevertheless, Joe Biden has invested almost $140 million in a German company that will build a home-test plant in America...by 2024.
It's no secret at this point that omicron was o-versold. It's so negligible that many people know they have it only because they've been tested. Even those who have symptoms feel only as if they've got a cold. They just identify as omicron-sick. You only need to look at the hugely different trend lines between cases and deaths to understand that omicron is a big nothing:
234846_5_.jpg

Indeed, omicron may or may not be extremely contagious. That's hard to know because the CDC, after announcing that 73% of all COVID cases in America were now omicron, backtracked and now says that only 23% are, with the remainder being the delta variant. But if these cases are the delta variant, they must be pretty darn mild if they're indistinguishable from omicron and cases are dropping.
In any event, it's entirely possible that COVID has been grossly overcounted from the beginning. That's because it turns out that the PCR test was unable to distinguish between COVID and the flu. Democrats insisted that the flu vanished because of the masks and social distancing, but it now appears the flu dropped off the radar because all cases were misclassified as COVID.
And of course, there's the little problem that vaccinated people are the ones most likely to get omicron. Thankfully, they're not getting very sick, but that fact utterly destroys the narrative about the unvaccinated keeping COVID alive in America.




























7_91_9.gif

Currently, the only thing that's keeping COVID in the headlines is the mania for testing. I know a woman who posts on Facebook at least once a month about getting tested. It's not clear that she's ever been seriously symptomatic. Instead, every sniffle or cough sends her rushing out to get a test. The tests are a hypochondriac's dream.
234845_5_.jpg

Image: Home COVID test. Freepik license.
Using as his starting point the home COVID tests that D.C. is handing out, Christopher Bedford explains why those tests are so stupid:
Staring at this kit Wednesday morning, sniffling, I thought, "Why would I do that?"​
Seriously, why the hell would I do that? Do I live in Florida, where if seriously ill, I'll be given access to monoclonal antibody treatments while family, friends, and neighbors go about their lives? Do I live in Georgia or Texas, where I'd receive the same? Or Tennessee, Alabama, Mississippi, or Louisiana?​
Or do I live in a city where the numbers will be rushed to the press, schools will be shuttered, mask mandates will be extended, new restrictions on the eternally wicked "unvaccinated" will be rolled out, and if I have a bad case I'll have to drive hours to find a pharmacy willing to fill a doctor's prescription?​

7_209_19.gif

The tests do nothing but allow bureaucrats and the media to keep the panic going. It's over.
But Biden understands the continued need for panic. That's why he just signed a deal for $137 million with a German company to build a Wisconsin factory to produce more COVID test kids...by late 2024:
The Biden administration struck a $137 million deal to build a new factory in the U.S. to ramp up production of COVID-19 testing kits — but the new facility won't be completed until late 2024 at the earliest.​
MilliporeSigma, a brand formed by Germany's Merck KGaA, will build a new factory in Sheboygan, Wisconsin, the Defense Department announced as the U.S. hit a high record of 489,267 COVID cases on Wednesday​
While the contract gives the company three years to complete the facility, it is not immediately clear when it will ramp up to full production, which is expected to pump out 83.3 million tests per month.​
This plan is not as stupid as it appears. Democrats have figured out that the descendants of those Americans who fought a revolution during a smallpox epidemic, who battled through the Civil War, World War I, World War II, the Korean War, the Vietnam War, and both Gulf Wars; who survived journeys (voluntary or enslaved) across dangerous oceans; who lived through depressions and recessions; who traveled thousands of miles in covered wagons; and who populated a dangerous wilderness can be controlled completely if they're told they have a cold or the flu with a 1% mortality rate for people who are very old or have comorbidities.
Knowing that, if you wanted permanent political power, wouldn't you also make sure that Americans are constantly told that they're very, very sick?
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nobody actually has any tests right now.
Not sure what kind of guessing is going into the reports of cases.
 
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VolStrom said:
This is what pisses me off about Biden. He has no plan for treating the people that get sick. His entire plan is get the vax and if you don't tough sh!t sherlock.
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That’s why shutting down information to possible therapies and medical regimen for those sent home sick is pretty important. Most info I’ve read has to virus doing it’s worst in the first 5 to 8 days. After that we are dealing with the sequalae of the damage done.
Most of the admits for covid SOB and covid pneumonia are 8 to 10 days after symptoms or positive tests. Then they sit on a bipap for 4 to 5 days until they are hypoxia and intubated. Seems the most reasonable step to openly discuss those therapies to keep them out of the hospital and prevent viral replication.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
So how will I be able to comply with this Biden EO that is coming up soon (assuming the SCOTUS doesn't overturn it) if there are no home tests available?
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I really trying to give a 💩 about any of that idiots mandates but I’m not feeling it. Ok I’m lying I’m not even really trying.

And I don’t think the mandates will stick anyway.
 
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Caculator said:
from The American Thinker
COVID testing has become ridiculous and even counterproductive
By Andrea Widburg


The omicron version of COVID is so mild that it's indistinguishable from a cold. Many people are asymptomatic. We also know now that early COVID counts were almost certainly wrong because the dominant test used was unable to distinguish between COVID and the regular flu. Nevertheless, Joe Biden has invested almost $140 million in a German company that will build a home-test plant in America...by 2024.
It's no secret at this point that omicron was o-versold. It's so negligible that many people know they have it only because they've been tested. Even those who have symptoms feel only as if they've got a cold. They just identify as omicron-sick. You only need to look at the hugely different trend lines between cases and deaths to understand that omicron is a big nothing:
234846_5_.jpg

Indeed, omicron may or may not be extremely contagious. That's hard to know because the CDC, after announcing that 73% of all COVID cases in America were now omicron, backtracked and now says that only 23% are, with the remainder being the delta variant. But if these cases are the delta variant, they must be pretty darn mild if they're indistinguishable from omicron and cases are dropping.
In any event, it's entirely possible that COVID has been grossly overcounted from the beginning. That's because it turns out that the PCR test was unable to distinguish between COVID and the flu. Democrats insisted that the flu vanished because of the masks and social distancing, but it now appears the flu dropped off the radar because all cases were misclassified as COVID.
And of course, there's the little problem that vaccinated people are the ones most likely to get omicron. Thankfully, they're not getting very sick, but that fact utterly destroys the narrative about the unvaccinated keeping COVID alive in America.




























7_91_9.gif

Currently, the only thing that's keeping COVID in the headlines is the mania for testing. I know a woman who posts on Facebook at least once a month about getting tested. It's not clear that she's ever been seriously symptomatic. Instead, every sniffle or cough sends her rushing out to get a test. The tests are a hypochondriac's dream.
234845_5_.jpg

Image: Home COVID test. Freepik license.
Using as his starting point the home COVID tests that D.C. is handing out, Christopher Bedford explains why those tests are so stupid:
Staring at this kit Wednesday morning, sniffling, I thought, "Why would I do that?"​
Seriously, why the hell would I do that? Do I live in Florida, where if seriously ill, I'll be given access to monoclonal antibody treatments while family, friends, and neighbors go about their lives? Do I live in Georgia or Texas, where I'd receive the same? Or Tennessee, Alabama, Mississippi, or Louisiana?​
Or do I live in a city where the numbers will be rushed to the press, schools will be shuttered, mask mandates will be extended, new restrictions on the eternally wicked "unvaccinated" will be rolled out, and if I have a bad case I'll have to drive hours to find a pharmacy willing to fill a doctor's prescription?​

7_209_19.gif

The tests do nothing but allow bureaucrats and the media to keep the panic going. It's over.
But Biden understands the continued need for panic. That's why he just signed a deal for $137 million with a German company to build a Wisconsin factory to produce more COVID test kids...by late 2024:
The Biden administration struck a $137 million deal to build a new factory in the U.S. to ramp up production of COVID-19 testing kits — but the new facility won't be completed until late 2024 at the earliest.​
MilliporeSigma, a brand formed by Germany's Merck KGaA, will build a new factory in Sheboygan, Wisconsin, the Defense Department announced as the U.S. hit a high record of 489,267 COVID cases on Wednesday​
While the contract gives the company three years to complete the facility, it is not immediately clear when it will ramp up to full production, which is expected to pump out 83.3 million tests per month.​
This plan is not as stupid as it appears. Democrats have figured out that the descendants of those Americans who fought a revolution during a smallpox epidemic, who battled through the Civil War, World War I, World War II, the Korean War, the Vietnam War, and both Gulf Wars; who survived journeys (voluntary or enslaved) across dangerous oceans; who lived through depressions and recessions; who traveled thousands of miles in covered wagons; and who populated a dangerous wilderness can be controlled completely if they're told they have a cold or the flu with a 1% mortality rate for people who are very old or have comorbidities.
Knowing that, if you wanted permanent political power, wouldn't you also make sure that Americans are constantly told that they're very, very sick?
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It makes money and power grows. Why wouldn’t they.
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
Something needs to be done to determine the difference. If we’re actually trying to figure it out.

And how do we really know how many are actually positive? I’m on vacation in Florida. Everyone here is vaccinated. My wife is high risk so she and I are both boosted. We all have cold symptoms. Don’t want to assume so we looked around for a Covid test. Nobody has them. Not even the hospital. So ….. maybe we have Covid with mild symptoms or maybe we have a cold. A pharmacist buddy told my there are also currently a lot of respiratory viruses going around now. So maybe that’s it.
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Remember our talk about lies , damn lies and statistics and the reason why I don’t trust anyone with an agenda or that gets gov funds ? I never thought Fauci would be the one to actually prove out my point but it been a strange two years so I shouldn’t be surprised .
 
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