Vaccine or not?

[Orangeslice13]

Fauci will set you straight.


Until he changes his mind.

smh
So you’re giving up on science?
That’s really sad.

 

[Orangeslice13]

Even the pro vaccine crowd should have issues with the fact that the cdc has no recommendations for people infected. Drink fluids, rest (so the pneumonia kicks in), control your fever with Tylenol, and avoid other people is really what it says. The majority of the page is actually just telling their caregiver how to avoid infection.

COVID-19 and Your Health

CDC is a garbage outfit. Has been for a while.
That doesn’t mean all honest science is dead.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

I do. you just gotta shuffle through the garbage to find it

And that is the problem... you seem to say it if it has become normalized to you. Just something we have to be expected to do.

Why not at least acknowledge that there is no reason to have to do dumpster dives in order to find honest data from the CDC and FDA? At least understand why so many are cynical of just about anything and as a result, we often times fall back on our own level of discernment... or fall victim to our own biases.

 

[Orangeslice13]

And how do you know what is or isn't garbage?

Because I’m not stupid and can read. Spellin is suspect though.
if methodologies are good the study is good.
When in doubt throw it out

 

[Vol8188]

CDC is a garbage outfit. Has been for a while.
That doesn’t mean all honest science is dead.

True but there’s so many things we know to be effective. Vitamin D has been known to work for respiratory illnesses and play a role in immunity for years now. Vitamin C, iodine rinses, monoclonal antibodies, etc.

None of that is fringe, none of that is unsafe, all of that is effective. Yet they basically tell you to lay in bed, get pneumonia, and die

 

[Orangeslice13]

And that is the problem... you seem to say it if it has become normalized to you. Just something we have to be expected to do.

Why not at least acknowledge that there is no reason to have to do dumpster dives in order to find honest data from the CDC and FDA? At least understand why so many are cynical of just about anything and as a result, we often times fall back on our own level of discernment... or fall victim to our own biases.

Straw man.

I have no control over anything.
All I can do is read and decide for myself.
I’ll leave the ringing of hands and nashing of teeth to the week

 

[Orangeslice13]

True but there’s so many things we know to be effective. Vitamin D has been known to work for respiratory illnesses and play a role in immunity for years now. Vitamin C, iodine rinses, monoclonal antibodies, etc.

None of that is fringe, none of that is unsafe, all of that is effective. Yet they basically tell you to lay in bed, get pneumonia, and die

None of that is fringe. And it’s not being hidden either.
There are plenty of studies that support D ,Zink and C. And plenty of Drs writing it.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

None of that is fringe. And it’s not being hidden either.
There are plenty of studies that support D ,Zink and C. And plenty of Drs writing it.

You don't here Fauci promoting these alternative treatments. He has the biggest microphone with regards to all of this.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Straw man.

I have no control over anything.
All I can do is read and decide for myself.
I’ll leave the ringing of hands and nashing of teeth to the week

Interesting. I'm trying to find that straw man...

But anyways, the portion I have highlighted goes along with what I had said earlier.

At least understand why so many are cynical of just about anything and as a result, we often times fall back on our own level of discernment... or fall victim to our own biases.

 

[Vol8188]

None of that is fringe. And it’s not being hidden either.
There are plenty of studies that support D ,Zink and C. And plenty of Drs writing it.

Yet where is it on the cdc website nor can you really find the mainstream media talking about it. You’ll find nothing from them about iodine rinses for example

 

[Orangeslice13]

You don't here Fauci promoting these alternative treatments. He has the biggest microphone with regards to all of this.

**** fauci.
I don’t care what he says
Why do you?

 

[Orangeslice13]

Interesting. I'm trying to find that straw man...

But anyways, the portion I have highlighted goes along with what I had said earlier.

Methodology trumps bias

 

[Orangeslice13]

Yet where is it on the cdc website nor can you really find the mainstream media talking about it. You’ll find nothing from them about iodine rinses for example

No argument there.
Not in the main stream doesn’t mean extinct

 

[0nelilreb]

CDC is a garbage outfit. Has been for a while.
That doesn’t mean all honest science is dead.

I agree with this but I don’t think anyone honest about this can make any headway as far as getting true numbers to the public without losing their livelihood and or worse

 

[Orangeslice13]

I agree with this but I don’t think anyone honest about this can make any headway as far as getting true numbers to the public without losing their livelihood and or worse

I don’t believe that.
People publish double blind studies all the time.

 

[0nelilreb]

I don’t believe that.
People publish double blind studies all the time.

When was the last time you or I saw the truth and we believed it about Covid . Would we even be able to tell what it is anymore without suspecting a weighted thumb on the scale somewhere .

 

[Orangeslice13]

72 is still with us. For those who wanted to know.
Doing better but no real progress the last couple of days.

That’s all

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

**** fauci.
I don’t care what he says
Why do you?

You don't care. I don't care.

That isn't what I'm saying.

The people that do hang on his every word are not being given these simple treatments.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

No argument there.
Not in the main stream doesn’t mean extinct

Well that goes back to the information dumpster diving that you spoke about earlier. Most people's primary source of news is the mainstream media. Most people are either too lazy to dig further into it or are just ignorant of other alternative sources.

 

[Orangeslice13]

When was the last time you or I saw the truth and we believed it about Covid . Would we even be able to tell what it is anymore without suspecting a weighted thumb on the scale somewhere .

There was a study that said n95 is the only mask that works vs Covid. And there was another last week that reaffirmed the same.
Methodology seems right. I believe them.

 

[Orangeslice13]

You don't care. I don't care.

That isn't what I'm saying.

The people that do hang on his every word are not being given these simple treatments.

Who are these people? I only do Volnation but I see a lot of people bitching but not a whole lot posting his work. Maybe I’m just ignoring the stupidity.
The people bitching are giving him way too much power.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

I don’t believe that.
People publish double blind studies all the time.

It is one of the reasons why you are not getting these studies that you are always asking about with regards to Ivermectin. It is a third rail issue and can kill most of these guys career if they come out with a narrative that runs opposite of the main one. Licenses getting revoked or threats of revoking them...

 

[Orangeslice13]

It is one of the reasons why you are not getting these studies that you are always asking about with regards to Ivermectin. It is a third rail issue and can kill most of these guys career if they come out with a narrative that runs opposite of the main one. Licenses getting revoked or threats of revoking them...

There are 3 double blind studies in progress on ivermectin. And one study has been released but you already know what it said

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Who are these people? I only do Volnation but I see a lot of people bitching but not a whole lot posting his work. Maybe I’m just ignoring the stupidity.
The people bitching are giving him way too much power.

You run around and bump into these people in everyday life. You may ignore them, but they are still there.

Personally, I don't see how you can ignore them and not see them. Are you gaslighting right now?

 

[0nelilreb]

There was a study that said n95 is the only mask that works vs Covid. And there was another last week that reaffirmed the same.
Methodology seems right. I believe them.

I don’t appreciate your trust and desire to believe the science, i also know how jaded this has made me towards people and groups that are supposed to be our advisors and go to’s when it comes to emergencies . The first thing my non trusting , jaded behind would ask them is where in the hell have you been for two years with this when we all knew that was a logical conclusion. The Who is loaded with scientists, the CDC .. loaded with scientists , NIH has one of the foremost virologist, Phizer has more scientists in more labs than we have pennys and yet we know we can trust any of those I named off because they lie and misrepresent often .