Vaccine or not?

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#17,176
Vol8188 said:
Are you under the impression I’m proclaiming he died from the vaccine?

You asked why anyone would mention the vaccine and his death. Im saying his last tweet mentioned the “special shot”. Im not claiming he’s talking about the Covid vaccine nor am I claiming anything else. I’m merely explaining why people would mention his death and Covid together in the same sentence
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And it's a dumb assumption. You aren't likely to die from Covid or the vaccine. People need to stop pretending like one exists. He's far more likely to have died of a heart attack. But people want to jump on the vax or non vax thing every time someone dies. It's gross.
 
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GordonC said:
In context, it's pretty unbelievable anyone could read it another way.
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I agree. If it said “going nowhere until I get the special shot” that would’ve sounded more like the vaccine to me

Edit: “going everywhere until I get the special shot” sounds like “I’m gonna tour a lot until Netflix gives me a deal”
 
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luthervol said:
I had to choose to have my kids vaccinated or not enroll them in school.
I had to choose to have my kids vaccinated or not let them attend college.
I had to choose to let my kids get additional vaccinations or not let them study abroad.
Mandatory vaccines have been around almost 100 years.
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How many of those vaccines went through rigorous testing before you decided to get them. Hell, how many of them just had emergency use status?
 
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Septic said:
Against all of the other required vaccines necessary to participate in public education.

You implied that your kids wouldn't be participating after @luthervol pointed out that vaccine requirements aren't anything new.
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I know several people that are opposed to this vaccine but not the others with a long history. Those people have chosen to home school till this silliness passes. I’m vaccinated but if my kids were still young would probably home school as opposed to vaccinating them with the Covid vaccine. Should it become a requirement.
Like you said. There’s a choice to be made between two bad alternatives
 
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utvolpj said:
Over injecting a child with a substance now shown to cause issues in reproductive organs? That's an easy choice
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I’m my mind there’s a big difference in using this vaccine on 50 year olds who either are or close to someone high risk (me) and children. With the children homeschool is an easy choice.

Hamilton co spending 18k per kid to educate. They should now have to pay that money to the parents who homeschool
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
I’m my mind there’s a big difference in using this vaccine on 50 year olds who either are or close to someone high risk (me) and children. With the children homeschool is an easy choice.

Hamilton co spending 18k per kid to educate. They should now have to pay that money to the parents who homeschool
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I mentioned this before, but unless the homeschool is setup under a private or religious institution, the kids will be required to get any vaccines the county schools require and submit proof to the local school system.
 
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davethevol said:
I mentioned this before, but unless the homeschool is setup under a private or religious institution, the kids will be required to get any vaccines the county schools require and submit proof to the local school system.
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there’s a plethora of homeschool programs that will do.
And good luck on enforcement. They can’t run the day to day at the school. Much less have time to play Karen.
 
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utvolpj said:
Over injecting a child with a substance now shown to cause issues in reproductive organs? That's an easy choice
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We were talking about the current immunization requirements.

Anyhow - what issues? All I can find is this:

COVID vaccine can lengthen the menstrual cycle: study

‘A cycle or two where periods are thrown off may be annoying, but it’s not going to be harmful in a medical way.’ - Dr. Hugh Taylor, Yale School of Medicine
 
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utvolpj said:
Which is a totally different discussion being brought in to muddy the waters. No different than the seat belt discussion

Are there now school-required vaccines currently causing reproductive issues in children?
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That's his style. He spent about an hour last night running from the fact that he supports the vaccine mandates for employees of companies with over 100 by just repeating "I do not support FORCED vaccinations" without ever mentioning the fact that he does not consider this to be a form of force.
 
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utvolpj said:
Which is a totally different discussion being brought in to muddy the waters. No different than the seat belt discussion

Are there now school-required vaccines currently causing reproductive issues in children?
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They are only brought up in the context that required vaccinations aren't some new power grab.

What reproductive issues are you talking about?
 
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Septic said:
They are only brought up in the context that required vaccinations aren't some new power grab.

What reproductive issues are you talking about?
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Kiddiedoc posted them earlier. They are causing bleeding and menstruation issues in women
 
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Vol8188 said:
That's his style. He spent about an hour last night running from the fact that he supports the vaccine mandates for employees of companies with over 100 by just repeating "I do not support FORCED vaccinations" without ever mentioning the fact that he does not consider this to be a form of force.
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Dude, stop making up arguments for people. You're simply terrible at formulating arguments that don't rely on complete misrepresentation and deflection.

It's no ones fault but your own that you can't grasp the concept of "forced" implying compulsory and mandatory versus the choice not to get the vaccine, which is the reality.
 
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luthervol said:
I had to choose to have my kids vaccinated or not enroll them in school.
I had to choose to have my kids vaccinated or not let them attend college.
I had to choose to let my kids get additional vaccinations or not let them study abroad.
Mandatory vaccines have been around almost 100 years.
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How old were the vaccines your kids were given to attend school? Are they the traditional measles, mumps, rubella, hepatitis, pertussis, diphtheria, etc that were developed and studied for years before being used and we now have decades of history behind them?

Or is it vaccines that were created and released to the public in a few months without following the traditional safety development and testing procedures?
 
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TheDeeble said:
How old were the vaccines your kids were given to attend school? Are they the traditional measles, mumps, rubella, hepatitis, pertussis, diphtheria, etc that were developed and studied for years before being used and we now have decades of history behind them?

Or is it vaccines that were created and released to the public in a few months without following the traditional safety development and testing procedures?
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I acknowledge there is a difference.
I'm just responding to the people who act as if it's inappropriate that a vaccine is required.
They need to be a little more specific in their argument.
 
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Septic said:
Dude, stop making up arguments for people. You're simply terrible at formulating arguments that don't rely on complete misrepresentation and deflection.

It's no ones fault but your own that you can't grasp the concept of "forced" implying compulsory and mandatory versus the choice not to get the vaccine, which is the reality.
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If you would clearly state your argument, I wouldn't have to guess. But based on your last sentence it also seems I was correct the entire time.

It seems you support the vaccine mandates for businesses since you've stated multiple times that it's a choice to not get vaccinated and lose your job.

Instead of blaming me each time, perhaps you should clearly state where you stand.

Do you support the OSHA mandates for COVID vaccination in companies with more than 100 employees?

Would you support a similar mandate for smaller companies?
 
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Septic said:
Didn't see it, but saw this - is this the study he referenced?

Association Between Menstrual Cycle Length and Coronavirus... : Obstetrics & Gynecology
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I don't remember but he posted several and also about his wife having issues

My wife had genetic issues because of substances put into her father that the US govt/military said was safe. Those caused our journey to have kids to much more difficult. My children also have these genetic issues and it's very possible their kids will as well. Sorry but I'm not going to double down on the chances they can't produce children just because the govt said it was safe.
 
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Septic said:
Dude, stop making up arguments for people. You're simply terrible at formulating arguments that don't rely on complete misrepresentation and deflection.

It's no ones fault but your own that you can't grasp the concept of "forced" implying compulsory and mandatory versus the choice not to get the vaccine, which is the reality.
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How do I feed my family if I'm unable to be employed in the US without a vaccine? It's a "choice" with only one option
 
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