Vaccine or not?

[Orangeburst]

 

[0nelilreb]

Lol sweet !

 

[Orangeburst]

Lol sweet !

Dang..Freak or YouTube won't let us link YouTube songs anymore.

 

[kiddiedoc]

True or false: If all eligible people got vaxxed, we would have fewer cases, fewer severe cases, fewer hospitalizations, and fewer deaths. It's really not hard. Stop groveling to the knuckledraggers on here. You now the data is there for all of this.

True or false: if all eligible people got vaxxed, we would have more cases of myocarditis, interruption of the reproductive cycle, clotting issues, GBS, and an open-end to possible long-term consequences?

See how this works?

Care to actually address the statistics I challenged?

 

[norrislakevol]

True or false: If all eligible people got vaxxed, we would have fewer cases, fewer severe cases, fewer hospitalizations, and fewer deaths. It's really not hard. Stop groveling to the knuckledraggers on here. You now the data is there for all of this.

False. For the rest of your questions maybe for the old and those with multiple co-morbidities, but healthy, younger people don't need the jab. The jab put unneeded risk on them from a health perspective and serves zero purpose. These "vaccines" should be treated just like the flu shot and when sanity once again reigns supreme in our medical community the COVID shot will only be recommended for those that are already knocking on deaths door. Only a total moron would recommend this therapeutic to a child, teen, or healthy young adult. Only even bigger morons make them mandatory for these groups. Sure are a lot of morons out there these days it seems.

 

[RockyTop85]

False. For the rest of your questions maybe for the old and those with multiple co-morbidities, but healthy, younger people don't need the jab. The jab put unneeded risk on them from a health perspective and serves zero purpose. These "vaccines" should be treated just like the flu shot and when sanity once again reigns supreme in our medical community the COVID shot will only be recommended for those that are already knocking on deaths door. Only a total moron would recommend this therapeutic to a child, teen, or healthy young adult. Only even bigger morons make them mandatory for these groups. Sure are a lot of morons out there these days it seems.

There’s still a high correlation between vaccination status and case rates. It’s higher for hospitalization, and death.

See e.g. https://www.doh.wa.gov/Portals/1/Do...-tables/421-010-CasesInNotFullyVaccinated.pdf

The info I’ve seen for myocarditis from vaccines is 2.13 per 100,000. That’s about 1/35th of the hospitalization rate among unvaccinated individuals ages 12-34.

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2110737

Other information says that the occurrence of serious events after the vaccine was similar to the rate of occurrence in a placebo group:

Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine Reactions & Adverse Events | CDC

What am I missing?

 

[norrislakevol]

There’s still a high correlation between vaccination status and case rates. It’s higher for hospitalization, and death.

See below.

See e.g. https://www.doh.wa.gov/Portals/1/Do...-tables/421-010-CasesInNotFullyVaccinated.pdf

The info I’ve seen for myocarditis from vaccines is 2.13 per 100,000. That’s about 1/35th of the hospitalization rate among unvaccinated individuals ages 12-34.

The vast, vast majority of those numbers come from those people being hospitalized because of something else, and test positive. We know this now.

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2110737

Other information says that the occurrence of serious events after the vaccine was similar to the rate of occurrence in a placebo group:

Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine Reactions & Adverse Events | CDC

What am I missing?

Check out the research from the UK.

 

[Orange_Vol1321]

True or false: If all eligible people got vaxxed, we would have fewer cases, fewer severe cases, fewer hospitalizations, and fewer deaths. It's really not hard. Stop groveling to the knuckledraggers on here. You now the data is there for all of this.

False. The hospital numbers/cases would be 10 times what they are now.

 

[Sandman 423]

There’s still a high correlation between vaccination status and case rates. It’s higher for hospitalization, and death.

See e.g. https://www.doh.wa.gov/Portals/1/Do...-tables/421-010-CasesInNotFullyVaccinated.pdf

The info I’ve seen for myocarditis from vaccines is 2.13 per 100,000. That’s about 1/35th of the hospitalization rate among unvaccinated individuals ages 12-34.

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2110737

Other information says that the occurrence of serious events after the vaccine was similar to the rate of occurrence in a placebo group:

Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine Reactions & Adverse Events | CDC

What am I missing?

The unknown is my guess.

My daughter has already had covid and If she wants to go on her school trip to DC she will have to get vaccinated as well. Seems kinda silly that you have to get vaccinated against something you have already had.

 

[kiddiedoc]

There’s still a high correlation between vaccination status and case rates. It’s higher for hospitalization, and death.

See e.g. https://www.doh.wa.gov/Portals/1/Do...-tables/421-010-CasesInNotFullyVaccinated.pdf

The info I’ve seen for myocarditis from vaccines is 2.13 per 100,000. That’s about 1/35th of the hospitalization rate among unvaccinated individuals ages 12-34.

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2110737

Other information says that the occurrence of serious events after the vaccine was similar to the rate of occurrence in a placebo group:

Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine Reactions & Adverse Events | CDC

What am I missing?

18 myocarditis cases per 100,000 in males 5-11 after shots. This per Pfizer documents. The incidence outweighs prevented hospitalizations under some circumstances.

 

[davethevol]

The CDC Is Changing The Way It Talks About Vaccination Status


More changing of definitions.

 

[Vjcvette]

If you have 2 vaccines and have a booster you have 90% protection, and I am around people sick and
coughing all of the time.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

More changing of definitions.

Nineteen Eighty-Four - Wikipedia

In London, Winston Smith is a member of the Outer Party, working at the Ministry of Truth, where he rewrites historical records to conform to the state's ever-changing version of history. Winston revises past editions of The Times, while the original documents are destroyed after being dropped into ducts known as memory holes, which lead to an immense furnace.

 

[davethevol]

Nineteen Eighty-Four - Wikipedia

Zero chance this is lack of judgement at this point. This is a deliberate attempt to create confusion.

 

[VolinWayne]

True or false: If all eligible people got vaxxed, we would have fewer cases, fewer severe cases, fewer hospitalizations, and fewer deaths. It's really not hard. Stop groveling to the knuckledraggers on here. You now the data is there for all of this.

False. All you have to do is look at Israel, where many received 3rd and 4th boosters, reporting 69,104 new Covid cases. The country has the highest daily cases per capita globally now

https://m.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-694179

 

[VolinWayne]

 

[ButchPlz]

And again, remember when the media, the CDC, the FDA, leftist politicians, and certain dingbats in this thread tried to gaslight us all into believing natural immunity wasn't real?

 

[VolinWayne]

The world is waking up!

 

[VolinWayne]

And again, remember when the media, the CDC, the FDA, leftist politicians, and certain dingbats in this thread tried to gaslight us all into believing natural immunity wasn't real?

And some still try to argue this point

 

[VolinWayne]

 

[evillawyer]

True or false: if all eligible people got vaxxed, we would have more cases of myocarditis, interruption of the reproductive cycle, clotting issues, GBS, and an open-end to possible long-term consequences?

See how this works?

Care to actually address the statistics I challenged?

Oooohhhh Noooooos. Relatively minor and extremely rare side effects. How shall I defeat such an argument?

 

[evillawyer]

False, because the vaccine doesn't stop transmission or you from getting COVID. At best, it minimizes some of the symptoms... maybe.

The data out of NYC shows the unvaxxed substantially more likely to get it, and even more likely to end up in hospital.

 

[luthervol]

And again, remember when the media, the CDC, the FDA, leftist politicians, and certain dingbats in this thread tried to gaslight us all into believing natural immunity wasn't real?

I do not remember that at all.

 

[luthervol]

And some still try to argue this point

Who?

 

[davethevol]

The data out of NYC shows the unvaxxed substantially more likely to get it, and even more likely to end up in hospital.

The vaccine doesn’t keep people from getting it. Period.