Vaccine or not?

Why are they trying to push this vax this hard?

You know, I as many others have thought long and hard....They do not really gain anything by shutting down the economy or asking you to wear a mask, as a microcosm.
I just dont accept it that is about control so much as the appearance that gov policy is an "effective answer or policy" for any of our national problems.
 
Highway Patrolman (and huge right wing media star) Robert Lamay to Washington governor Jay Inslee over vaccination requirement: "Kiss my ass."

Covid-19 to Robert Lamay: "You're dead."

I hope the antivax whack-jobs just keep refusing the vaccine and keep dying. 6-7 years of 300k deaths a year and we'll thin the herd by natural selection. Probably will even raise the mean IQ of the country as well.
 
Highway Patrolman (and huge right wing media star) Robert Lamay to Washington governor Jay Inslee over vaccination requirement: "Kiss my ass."

Covid-19 to Robert Lamay: "You're dead."

I hope the antivax whack-jobs just keep refusing the vaccine and keep dying. 6-7 years of 300k deaths a year and we'll thin the herd by natural selection. Probably will even raise the mean IQ of the country as well.
Remember folks, these "people" are concerned about "health"!
 
Highway Patrolman (and huge right wing media star) Robert Lamay to Washington governor Jay Inslee over vaccination requirement: "Kiss my ass."

Covid-19 to Robert Lamay: "You're dead."

I hope the antivax whack-jobs just keep refusing the vaccine and keep dying. 6-7 years of 300k deaths a year and we'll thin the herd by natural selection. Probably will even raise the mean IQ of the country as well.

What an ugly thought and post.
 
Heart Disease Facts | cdc.gov
Are we now free to fat shame? Obesity is the biggest risk factor for dying of a preventable health issue in the US. Or are we only limited to vaccine shaming???
I've always felt fat "shaming" was acceptable. As you indicate, nearly every case of obesity there is is nothing but mental failure and weakness on the part of the obese.
 
On the bright side, he avoided a mild case of myocarditis.

Unvaxxed comedian Christian Cabrera, 40, dies from COVID-19

Highway Patrolman (and huge right wing media star) Robert Lamay to Washington governor Jay Inslee over vaccination requirement: "Kiss my ass."

Covid-19 to Robert Lamay: "You're dead."

I hope the antivax whack-jobs just keep refusing the vaccine and keep dying. 6-7 years of 300k deaths a year and we'll thin the herd by natural selection. Probably will even raise the mean IQ of the country as well.

The government killed them, not covid. Withholding therapeutics for political bias is evil as it comes. Karma always comes back around though.
 
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Highway Patrolman (and huge right wing media star) Robert Lamay to Washington governor Jay Inslee over vaccination requirement: "Kiss my ass."

Covid-19 to Robert Lamay: "You're dead."

I hope the antivax whack-jobs just keep refusing the vaccine and keep dying. 6-7 years of 300k deaths a year and we'll thin the herd by natural selection. Probably will even raise the mean IQ of the country as well.
Another example of how this pandemic has brought out the worst in people.

I can't imagine celebrating someone's death. Evil, evil stuff.
 
You can tell the mask cult truly enjoys seeing people die if they made their own health decisions with the vaccine. He probably struggled to breathe through his 3 masks as he typed that post alone in his house.

One particular poster here, name unsaid, celebrated the thought of "thinning the herd" back in Spring 2020. I see that person now has family members get COVID and become concerned with everyone getting the vax.
"Thinning the herd" only applies until it is one of your friends or loved ones
 
I've always felt fat "shaming" was acceptable. As you indicate, nearly every case of obesity there is is nothing but mental failure and weakness on the part of the obese.
It’s very clear now that the vaccine does a great job of limiting an individuals risk of severe disease or death. But it’s no longer a public health issue. It’s a personal health issue. So, yes, people dying with/from Covid are going to remain the people that choose, for whatever reason, not to be vaccinated. Just like people who have chosen to continue smoking or being overweight will continue to die disproportionately from heart and lung disease.
 
Highway Patrolman (and huge right wing media star) Robert Lamay to Washington governor Jay Inslee over vaccination requirement: "Kiss my ass."

Covid-19 to Robert Lamay: "You're dead."

I hope the antivax whack-jobs just keep refusing the vaccine and keep dying. 6-7 years of 300k deaths a year and we'll thin the herd by natural selection. Probably will even raise the mean IQ of the country as well.


How sad. You are the perfect example of what's destroying our country. In your opinion the only thing that matters is your own opinion and apparantly you hope that everybody that doesn't share your opinion dies. To many of us, Covid 19 simply does not pose a large enough risk to be jabbing every man woman and child with an experimental drug that we have no idea what the long term affects will be. There is actually now plenty of data from other countries that proves that cases actually rise as the percentage of vaccinated rises. There is also plenty of data that shows that adverse reactions do happen. Look at the uptick in heart attacks. It's simply not worth the risk to many healthy people who prefer to make their own health decisions.
 
You know, I as many others have thought long and hard....They do not really gain anything by shutting down the economy or asking you to wear a mask, as a microcosm.
I just dont accept it that is about control so much as the appearance that gov policy is an "effective answer or policy" for any of our national problems.


I still think it's all about control. This is my opinion. It might not happen now but I think this is almost like a trial run of what it will be like sometime in the future when everything we do is controlled by the government. (Might want to do some research on Agenda 21 and Agenda 30) Your ability to borrow money will one day be affected greatly by your social score. Also, your vaccination status will one day play a large part in how much you can interact with society. I think they pushed it as far as they could and now will take a step back and them in 10 years when the next pandemic comes people will think it's completely normal to simply do whatever the government asks you to do for the "safety" of others.
 
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Highway Patrolman (and huge right wing media star) Robert Lamay to Washington governor Jay Inslee over vaccination requirement: "Kiss my ass."

Covid-19 to Robert Lamay: "You're dead."

I hope the antivax whack-jobs just keep refusing the vaccine and keep dying. 6-7 years of 300k deaths a year and we'll thin the herd by natural selection. Probably will even raise the mean IQ of the country as well.
Hey, he at least avoided a very small chance of myocarditis that would have healed up in a few days on its own.
 
I’m not ready. After effects 2-10 yrs down the road concern me. If I were under 50, no way in hell I take it.

Thoughts?
In my 6 years and multiple overseas deployments with the US Army, I was vaccinated and boosted against everything and anything you can think of, including Smallpox and Anthrax.

Which is why I did not want to get the covid jab. I was not going to get it until my employer made it a policy that unvaxxed must wear a mask all day. I submitted and got the single dose J&J.

I was considered fully vaxxed until this week. A mass email explained that the CDC has 2 definitions of 'fully vaxxed'. My status is 'not boosted', even though the J&J is a single dose vax.

Everyone has their reasons. I am against forcing people to get the shot. It is immoral authoritarianism that does not have a place in a country founded on freedom.
 
In my 6 years and multiple overseas deployments with the US Army, I was vaccinated and boosted against everything and anything you can think of, including Smallpox and Anthrax.

Which is why I did not want to get the covid jab. I was not going to get it until my employer made it a policy that unvaxxed must wear a mask all day. I submitted and got the single dose J&J.

I was considered fully vaxxed until this week. A mass email explained that the CDC has 2 definitions of 'fully vaxxed'. My status is 'not boosted', even though the J&J is a single dose vax.

Everyone has their reasons. I am against forcing people to get the shot. It is immoral authoritarianism that does not have a place in a country founded on freedom.


Let me ask, because the science isbthat being vaccinated reduces risk of harshest levels of illness, are you okay with either of these as a tradeoff to a mandate:

1) unvaccinated are limited in public levels of exposure, ie cannot attend concerts or large group events?

2) unvaccinated are placed down the list for provisin of care versus someone who is vaccinated?

Both theories being that if you choose not to be vaccinated you are at higher risk of heavy expenditures and diverting resources from people who did get vaccinated.

So it's still a choice, but with logic consequences.
 
Let me ask, because the science isbthat being vaccinated reduces risk of harshest levels of illness, are you okay with either of these as a tradeoff to a mandate:

1) unvaccinated are limited in public levels of exposure, ie cannot attend concerts or large group events?

2) unvaccinated are placed down the list for provisin of care versus someone who is vaccinated?

Both theories being that if you choose not to be vaccinated you are at higher risk of heavy expenditures and diverting resources from people who did get vaccinated.

So it's still a choice, but with logic consequences.
Why ask 1 or 2? Both can catch and spread it and Fauci said the viral load in the nose of both is identical.
 
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In my 6 years and multiple overseas deployments with the US Army, I was vaccinated and boosted against everything and anything you can think of, including Smallpox and Anthrax.

Which is why I did not want to get the covid jab. I was not going to get it until my employer made it a policy that unvaxxed must wear a mask all day. I submitted and got the single dose J&J.

I was considered fully vaxxed until this week. A mass email explained that the CDC has 2 definitions of 'fully vaxxed'. My status is 'not boosted', even though the J&J is a single dose vax.

Everyone has their reasons. I am against forcing people to get the shot. It is immoral authoritarianism that does not have a place in a country founded on freedom.
I have friends that took the J & J just so they could keep traveling. They said under no circumstance will they mix and match with the Pfizer or Moderna shots.
 

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