Vaccine or not?

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#19,577
0nelilreb said:
I know I said this in the other thread but this goes a long way with me when we start talking about my trust in government and taking them at their word . We have a President and party that is trying to push for gun mfgs to be able to be sued when people break the law but giving blanket amnesty to big pharma from liability with their brand new Covid cures . The next time one of you liberals starts in about that big ol’ nasty NRA, we are going to have a talk about Pfizer and your hypocrisy.
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The gun manufacturers should do like the pharma companies. Make 2 different products and only release 1 to market in the US. Then claim the one that is available is not actually the real thing. Sorry the BioNTech gun killed somebody. It’s not actually approved so you can’t sue us.
 
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Orangeburst said:
You start seeing loved ones and friends suffering and dying from the effects...the mob will come down with guillotines. If I find out I or anyone of my family was poisoned gonna have to have my talk with God. A guy told me today his 82 YO grandfather was fine and opposed to the vax but reluctantly took it a couple of months ago, and just died of organ failure. Heard a couple of those stories.
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Sorry to hear. Of course people like luther would love for the government to step and not let you share that.
 
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Orangeburst said:
You start seeing loved ones and friends suffering and dying from the effects...the mob will come down with guillotines. If I find out I or anyone of my family was poisoned gonna have to have my talk with God. A guy told me today his 82 YO grandfather was fine and opposed to the vax but reluctantly took it a couple of months ago, and just died of organ failure. Heard a couple of those stories.
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I definitely know of two that died from blood clots after getting the jab. One doctor even acknowledged that was what it was from. The jab is only for those that are about to die anyways. If you are healthy, don't take the risk.
 
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If there really was any significant negative drawback about the vaccine and Pfizer hid unfavorable vaccine data or negative side effects of their vaccine I honestly don't think it would ever be put out in public. The federal govt would bury it. What better way to "erode faith in our national institutions" than to have something very negative go public about the vaccine that for 2 years the fed govt has threatened and pushed on every American of every age. The govt is all in.

Plus there's no way the Democrats would ever want to allow the "Trump voting anti-vaxxers" to be right.
 
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TheDeeble said:
If there really was any significant negative drawback about the vaccine and Pfizer hid unfavorable vaccine data or negative side effects of their vaccine I honestly don't think it would ever be put out in public. The federal govt would bury it. What better way to "erode faith in our national institutions" than to have something very negative go public about the vaccine that for 2 years the fed govt has threatened and pushed on every American of every age. The govt is all in.

Plus there's no way the Democrats would ever want to allow the "Trump voting anti-vaxxers" to be right.
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Agree 100%. Remember: countless Americans still believe they have received an FDA approved shot and have no idea that it isn't even available. Hell, most places administering it don't even know that what they are giving isn't approved.
 
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kiddiedoc said:
Agree 100%. Remember: countless Americans still believe they have received an FDA approved shot and have no idea that it isn't even available. Hell, most places administering it don't even know that what they are giving isn't approved.
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I expect the same thing with this new FDA approved Moderna Spikevax. Haven't seen any info on it yet though.
 
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TheDeeble said:
If there really was any significant negative drawback about the vaccine and Pfizer hid unfavorable vaccine data or negative side effects of their vaccine I honestly don't think it would ever be put out in public. The federal govt would bury it. What better way to "erode faith in our national institutions" than to have something very negative go public about the vaccine that for 2 years the fed govt has threatened and pushed on every American of every age. The govt is all in.

Plus there's no way the Democrats would ever want to allow the "Trump voting anti-vaxxers" to be right.
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They will just flip it on Trump.
 
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https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2200133

“Overall, in a national database study in Qatar, we found that the effectiveness of previous infection in preventing reinfection with the alpha, beta, and delta variants of SARS-CoV-2 was robust (at approximately 90%), findings that confirmed earlier estimates.1-3 Such protection against reinfection with the omicron variant was lower (approximately 60%) but still considerable. In addition, the protection of previous infection against hospitalization or death caused by reinfection appeared to be robust, regardless of variant.”
 
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newyorkvol said:
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2200133

“Overall, in a national database study in Qatar, we found that the effectiveness of previous infection in preventing reinfection with the alpha, beta, and delta variants of SARS-CoV-2 was robust (at approximately 90%), findings that confirmed earlier estimates.1-3 Such protection against reinfection with the omicron variant was lower (approximately 60%) but still considerable. In addition, the protection of previous infection against hospitalization or death caused by reinfection appeared to be robust, regardless of variant.”
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Qatar?! Butwhatabout Singapore!
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
Lol yeah I’m guessing I’m on borrowed time there myself 😂
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I got under his skin because I would read his RT stories and point out the inconsistencies in it. Or use them against him later. I do miss the Ukraine 1 thread, there were about 5 or 6 of us who kept that thread going and mostly on topic.
 
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LouderVol said:
I got under his skin because I would read his RT stories and point out the inconsistencies in it. Or use them against him later. I do miss the Ukraine 1 thread, there were about 5 or 6 of us who kept that thread going and mostly on topic.
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Yeah it’s a glaring disconnect. I just don’t get it not to his extreme degree.
 
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