Vaccine or not?

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allvol123 said:
I don’t know about that, but I’ve yet to see any medical reasoning for why a healthy world class athlete should take this vaccine.
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Oh, I don't know. The dietary habits of American youth is primarily junk food related. Added to video game playing planted derrière instead of old-fashioned outdoors playing, a reduced hardiness translate to illness susceptibility. Kids get conditions never heard of in my day. One of them is peanut allergies. Snickers candy bars, Payday candy bars, heck, even Babe Ruth, I wonder how much their sales suffer. Does Almond Joy do better? Seriously, our youth aren't as healthy as you may think. And since we're letting schools dope our kids on Ritalin and other drugs because they're misbehaving as kids tend to do, what the difference with vaccinating them? NAAAWWW, I got a better idea, make them eat peanuts.
 
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WoodsmanVol said:
Oh, I don't know. The dietary habits of American youth is primarily junk food related. Added to video game playing planted derrière instead of old-fashioned outdoors playing, a reduced hardiness translate to illness susceptibility. Kids get conditions never heard of in my day. One of them is peanut allergies. Snickers candy bars, Payday candy bars, heck, even Babe Ruth, I wonder how much their sales suffer. Does Almond Joy do better? Seriously, our youth aren't as healthy as you may think. And since we're letting schools dope our kids on Ritalin and other drugs because they're misbehaving as kids tend to do, what the difference with vaccinating them? NAAAWWW, I got a better idea, make them eat peanuts.
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I was referring to world class athletes in that post.

But in regards to kids, I haven’t seen any evidence they need vaccinating either, except in rare cases.
 
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WoodsmanVol said:
Oh, I don't know. The dietary habits of American youth is primarily junk food related. Added to video game playing planted derrière instead of old-fashioned outdoors playing, a reduced hardiness translate to illness susceptibility. Kids get conditions never heard of in my day. One of them is peanut allergies. Snickers candy bars, Payday candy bars, heck, even Babe Ruth, I wonder how much their sales suffer. Does Almond Joy do better? Seriously, our youth aren't as healthy as you may think. And since we're letting schools dope our kids on Ritalin and other drugs because they're misbehaving as kids tend to do, what the difference with vaccinating them? NAAAWWW, I got a better idea, make them eat peanuts.
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What just happened?
 
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allvol123 said:
I was referring to world class athletes in that post.

But in regards to kids, I haven’t seen any evidence they need vaccinating either, except in rare cases.
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World class athletes went through a childhood too. It does impact their adulthood.
 
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WoodsmanVol said:
Oh, I don't know. The dietary habits of American youth is primarily junk food related. Added to video game playing planted derrière instead of old-fashioned outdoors playing, a reduced hardiness translate to illness susceptibility. Kids get conditions never heard of in my day. One of them is peanut allergies. Snickers candy bars, Payday candy bars, heck, even Babe Ruth, I wonder how much their sales suffer. Does Almond Joy do better? Seriously, our youth aren't as healthy as you may think. And since we're letting schools dope our kids on Ritalin and other drugs because they're misbehaving as kids tend to do, what the difference with vaccinating them? NAAAWWW, I got a better idea, make them eat peanuts.
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So your stance is that kids are already getting poisoned, so what's one more thing to add on the list?
 
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WoodsmanVol said:
My generation lived through the smallpox and polio vaccination campaigns. So the Covvie-19 held no fear for me, wife and I are fully tri-vaccinated.. So are bunches of our friends. Negative reactions? First shot, my arm was sore for three days. Wife's arm for a week, plus hit with something like the 24hr flu. Friends? One had a reaction like my wife, all the others sore arms. The next two shots? Beyond the needle prick, nothing. Same with friends. Will I take the rumored 4th booster? Probably not, as I don't think I need it. I think the anti-vax folks are making a ballyhoo out of nothing, and a fair number of them are dead, and some still dying cause they followed pied piper Trump, who himself hypocritically got vaccinated, BTW. (1) (2)
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In my opinion take the vax if you want the vax. Up to you. Now, the fact is that respiratory viruses mutate so frequently that vaccines are never going to be truly effective for them. That is why the flu shot has about a 40 to 60 percent effectiveness rate in any given year. Polio and smallpox are very, very different than corona viruses and flu viruses. They are NOT heavy mutators, which is why vaccines are so effective against these pathogens.

If you may recall, "experts" always advised that the way to try to defeat a future deadly flu outbreak was with anti-virals like Tamaflu. The "experts" made a massive mistake at the beginning of this pandemic by not pouring everything they had into therapeutics instead of a vaccine. Many lives could have been saved.
 
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WoodsmanVol said:
Could be, it's not a raging issue for me to get hyper about.
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I’ll say it before kiddiedoc does , that’s a weird a$$ way to look at it , and kind of messed up . To be fair .. I don’t think we expected anything different from you .
 
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norrislakevol said:
In my opinion take the vax if you want the vax. Up to you. Now, the fact is that respiratory viruses mutate so frequently that vaccines are never going to be truly effective for them. That is why the flu shot has about a 40 to 60 percent effectiveness rate in any given year. Polio and smallpox are very, very different than corona viruses and flu viruses. They are NOT heavy mutators, which is why vaccines are so effective against these pathogens.

If you may recall, "experts" always advised that the way to try to defeat a future deadly flu outbreak was with anti-virals like Tamaflu. The "experts" made a massive mistake at the beginning of this pandemic by not pouring everything they had into therapeutics instead of a vaccine. Many lives could have been saved.
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Well, actually, Mama nature doesn't care what we think or do. Which is why I see no further need to continue the discourse on this. AND, I absolutely agree with your statement; take the vax if you want the vax. Up to you. It's just that simple, no reason for posters to get all brimstone and hellfire about it. Here ya go.
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0nelilreb said:
I’ll say it before kiddiedoc does , that’s a weird a$$ way to look at it , and kind of messed up . To be fair .. I don’t think we expected anything different from you .
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You're welcome, sir. I do aim to please. Especially when folks appear to just want to argue for arguing sake. I either ignore them, or make fun of them, sometimes both.
 
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