Vaccine or not?

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zeppelin128 said:
hmmm, need to talk to your pals there, my friend!/!?!/!!!!!!

"I’m not so much being a Karen crying about injustices and trying to force you to do things according to my beliefs, as I am about just pointing and laugh at the stupidity of it all ."
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Nope that’s on them , I just do me . I have my hands full keeping me straight 😉
 
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VolinWayne said:
Probably nothing to this at all. I mean it's completely normal for a healthy athlete to suddenly die and nobody give any indication at all as to what the cause of death may have been. Not even a small hint as to what it might have been.
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Do we even know the cause of death… as in it could be suicide, accident, aneurism, congenital issue. It’s disgusting to use this to stir some weird little pot. Never let a tragedy go to waste, huh?
 
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OHvol40 said:
Do we even know the cause of death… as in it could be suicide, accident, aneurism, congenital issue. It’s disgusting to use this to stir some weird little pot. Never let a tragedy go to waste, huh?
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Sadly it was suicide. I agree with you that the automatic asumption above is sickening.
 
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California Lawmakers Retreat from vaccine fight

SACRAMENTO — For weeks in 2019, the shouting of anti-vaccine activists echoed through the halls of the California Capitol. Protesters pounded on the chamber doors, disrupting floor debates, as lawmakers weighed the latest bill to tighten school vaccine rules.

On the final night of the session, a protester tossed a menstrual cup from the Senate gallery onto the chamber floor below, splattering lawmakers with blood. “That’s for the dead babies!” she shouted.

California lawmakers were on the front lines of the vaccination wars long before the Covid-19 pandemic took hold. Democrats pushed through laws that closed off commonly used exemptions for shots required to attend school and cracked down on doctors who gave out questionable exemptions. Now, they are backing away.

In recent weeks, lawmakers have shelved a proposed private employer mandate and a bill to eliminate personal belief exemptions at schools for Covid shots. Another contentious measure — to let children 12 and over get vaccinated without a parent’s consent — is yet to be scheduled for a hearing despite looming deadlines to advance bills this session.

And Gov. Gavin Newsom, the first governor to announce a public school vaccine mandate, this month pushed back the much-hyped order to 2023, citing the slow-moving FDA approval process for younger children.

California lawmakers retreat from vaccine fight
 
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Franklin Pierce said:
California Lawmakers Retreat from vaccine fight

SACRAMENTO — For weeks in 2019, the shouting of anti-vaccine activists echoed through the halls of the California Capitol. Protesters pounded on the chamber doors, disrupting floor debates, as lawmakers weighed the latest bill to tighten school vaccine rules.

On the final night of the session, a protester tossed a menstrual cup from the Senate gallery onto the chamber floor below, splattering lawmakers with blood. “That’s for the dead babies!” she shouted.

California lawmakers were on the front lines of the vaccination wars long before the Covid-19 pandemic took hold. Democrats pushed through laws that closed off commonly used exemptions for shots required to attend school and cracked down on doctors who gave out questionable exemptions. Now, they are backing away.

In recent weeks, lawmakers have shelved a proposed private employer mandate and a bill to eliminate personal belief exemptions at schools for Covid shots. Another contentious measure — to let children 12 and over get vaccinated without a parent’s consent — is yet to be scheduled for a hearing despite looming deadlines to advance bills this session.

And Gov. Gavin Newsom, the first governor to announce a public school vaccine mandate, this month pushed back the much-hyped order to 2023, citing the slow-moving FDA approval process for younger children.

California lawmakers retreat from vaccine fight
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They are going to keep on and end up with another Republican actor as Governor . I just hope this time it’s James Woods Lol
 
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OHvol40 said:
@VolinWayne @Rasputin_Vol

James Madison University softball star Lauren Bernett dies of apparent suicide at 20

I just want to point out how distasteful it was to take this story into this thread and try to perpetrate some COVID vaccine narrative by exploiting this girl and her family’s tragedy. Will you admit your mistake?
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Yes, I apologize. If what is now coming out is indeed true and it was suicide then I was wrong and I should not have went there. This is indeed a tragedy. (By the way, her death was a tragedy no matter how she died) Suicide is something I simply have never been able to understand. I just can't imagine being this depressed and down on life that I would consider ending my life.

With that being said, what is also a tragedy is every single person who has been either vaccine injured or worse yet died from their injury. How do you think these families feel? Their cries for help are falling on deaf ears.
 
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VolinWayne said:
Yes, I apologize. If what is now coming out is indeed true and it was suicide then I was wrong and I should not have went there. This is indeed a tragedy. (By the way, her death was a tragedy no matter how she died) Suicide is something I simply have never been able to understand. I just can't imagine being this depressed and down on life that I would consider ending my life.

With that being said, what is also a tragedy is every single person who has been either vaccine injured or worse yet died from their injury. How do you think these families feel? Their cries for help are falling on deaf ears.
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Applaud your sincerity and walk-back, thank you. I agree wholeheartedly.

I think vaccine injuries are tragic of course. I’ve never come across one in my work (not from the COVID vaccine anyway). I have come across countless COVID deaths and prolonged complications… but wherever/whenever a vaccine injury may happen, I empathize.
 
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Just wanted to drop in and remind everyone that the virus was 99% survivable.

The fda approved vaccine is not available in the US.

They still haven’t decided on the dosing/boosters.

There is still no long term safety data.

And none of this matters because we are now going to beat the Ukraine war horse until it dies several times.
 
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Student Killed Himself after Bullying About His Vaccination Status: lawsuit

A 15-year-old boy who was initially targeted by a false rumor that he was unvaccinated was bullied relentlessly until he took his own life in January, a lawsuit claims.

The suit filed Monday against the Latin School of Chicago alleges administrators at the private college prep school — which charges more than $40,000 annually in tuition — committed “willful failure” to stop the incessant bullying, the Chicago Tribune reported.

The Cook County filing named the school, several employees and parents of the alleged bullies as defendants. The late teen, identified as N.B. in the suit, transferred to the school due to its in-person learning during the coronavirus pandemic, the complaint states.

A student whose parents are named in the lawsuit then started spreading a rumor that the 10th-grader, Nate Bronstein, was unvaccinated, according to the lawsuit.

Nate actually had been vaccinated, the lawsuit claims, but he was still harassed on a regular basis due to his perceived status. The boy’s parents, Robert and Rosellene Bronstein, even reached out to the other student’s family about the constant badgering, the suit claims.

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The Latin School of Chicago is accused of ignoring Nate Bronstein’s bullying situation, who later committed suicide.

Student died by suicide after bullying about his vaccination status: suit
 
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Franklin Pierce said:
Student Killed Himself after Bullying About His Vaccination Status: lawsuit

A 15-year-old boy who was initially targeted by a false rumor that he was unvaccinated was bullied relentlessly until he took his own life in January, a lawsuit claims.

The suit filed Monday against the Latin School of Chicago alleges administrators at the private college prep school — which charges more than $40,000 annually in tuition — committed “willful failure” to stop the incessant bullying, the Chicago Tribune reported.

The Cook County filing named the school, several employees and parents of the alleged bullies as defendants. The late teen, identified as N.B. in the suit, transferred to the school due to its in-person learning during the coronavirus pandemic, the complaint states.

A student whose parents are named in the lawsuit then started spreading a rumor that the 10th-grader, Nate Bronstein, was unvaccinated, according to the lawsuit.

Nate actually had been vaccinated, the lawsuit claims, but he was still harassed on a regular basis due to his perceived status. The boy’s parents, Robert and Rosellene Bronstein, even reached out to the other student’s family about the constant badgering, the suit claims.

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The Latin School of Chicago is accused of ignoring Nate Bronstein’s bullying situation, who later committed suicide.

Student died by suicide after bullying about his vaccination status: suit
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It has sincerely amazed me at how cruel the peaceful and loving side became over this. Now we hear nothing, but around and after the election, I guarantee they'll be back full force doing it again.
 
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VolinWayne said:
Yes, I apologize. If what is now coming out is indeed true and it was suicide then I was wrong and I should not have went there. This is indeed a tragedy. (By the way, her death was a tragedy no matter how she died) Suicide is something I simply have never been able to understand. I just can't imagine being this depressed and down on life that I would consider ending my life.

With that being said, what is also a tragedy is every single person who has been either vaccine injured or worse yet died from their injury. How do you think these families feel? Their cries for help are falling on deaf ears.
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You are as bad as the you must vax crowd.
 
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kiddiedoc said:
@RockyTop85 ,

Would you say the FDA also sounds like a crazy person? Directly from the horse's mouth (website):

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Why are you only highlighting partial sentences? Has the vaccine been given full authorization for children 12 and older? Has the two-shot series been given full approval for children 5 and up?

No. Of course not. Those uses are still only EUA approved. So the sentences make perfect sense to anybody who isn’t a crazy person.
 
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RockyTop85 said:
Why are you only highlighting partial sentences? Has the vaccine been given full authorization for children 12 and older? Has the two-shot series been given full approval for children 5 and up?

No. Of course not. Those uses are still only EUA approved. So the sentences make perfect sense to anybody who isn’t a crazy person.
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I honestly can't comprehend what you are trying to discredit.

THE BIONTECH VACCINE IS EUA ONLY. THAT'S WHAT'S AVAILABLE IN THE U.S. NO ONE HAS COMINRATY, WHICH IS THE FDA APPROVED PRODUCT.

Does that help? Or, do you prefer to continue to argue with a physician who has researched and discussed this issue ad nauseum with multiple pharmacists?
 
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Good Lort. Put Rockytop in your name and you are allowed to make claims about women/other posters.

Can't make it up.

The left wants you erased from civilization.
 
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Franklin Pierce said:
Student Killed Himself after Bullying About His Vaccination Status: lawsuit

A 15-year-old boy who was initially targeted by a false rumor that he was unvaccinated was bullied relentlessly until he took his own life in January, a lawsuit claims.

The suit filed Monday against the Latin School of Chicago alleges administrators at the private college prep school — which charges more than $40,000 annually in tuition — committed “willful failure” to stop the incessant bullying, the Chicago Tribune reported.

The Cook County filing named the school, several employees and parents of the alleged bullies as defendants. The late teen, identified as N.B. in the suit, transferred to the school due to its in-person learning during the coronavirus pandemic, the complaint states.

A student whose parents are named in the lawsuit then started spreading a rumor that the 10th-grader, Nate Bronstein, was unvaccinated, according to the lawsuit.

Nate actually had been vaccinated, the lawsuit claims, but he was still harassed on a regular basis due to his perceived status. The boy’s parents, Robert and Rosellene Bronstein, even reached out to the other student’s family about the constant badgering, the suit claims.

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The Latin School of Chicago is accused of ignoring Nate Bronstein’s bullying situation, who later committed suicide.

Student died by suicide after bullying about his vaccination status: suit
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That's one side of the story. It may or may not be accurate.
 
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kiddiedoc said:
I honestly can't comprehend what you are trying to discredit.

THE BIONTECH VACCINE IS EUA ONLY. THAT'S WHAT'S AVAILABLE IN THE U.S. NO ONE HAS COMINRATY, WHICH IS THE FDA APPROVED PRODUCT.

Does that help? Or, do you prefer to continue to argue with a physician who has researched and discussed this issue ad nauseum with multiple pharmacists?
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I had forgotten that you think you’re the only doctor. That’s always a hoot.

What you’re talking about isn’t a medical issue. It’s law. It’s regulatory. If there was any discrediting done, you did it to yourself by relying on “iM A pHysIciAn!!” instead of actually digging through the CFR, USC, and court decisions to see if a chemically identical compound administered for an authorized use is still considered to be an emergency use… or if they just look at the label. Or, alternatively, when/whether the liability protections even lapse because a drug becomes fully authorized.

At least do something to bridge all the leaps of logic between “you can’t argue with me because I’m a doctor” and “conspiracy confirmed.”

I don’t blame you, that’s a lot of damn work for an implausible theory that has had… what real world effect? How many lawsuits have been dismissed because the label didn’t say Comirnaty?
 
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Good Lort. Put Rockytop in your name and you are allowed to make claims about women/other posters.

Can't make it up.

The left wants you erased from civilization.
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This is a great example of the left trying to emasculate men.

If they don't like what they read it triggers them.
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I recommend only one bleating response if you’re going for “triggered” as your coup de gras.
 
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