Vaccine or not?

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WBO said:
Yeah right, I'm going to listen to the advice of a nurse in Tennessee over the pros at CDC. Nothing personal, I have a niece that is about to retire from the military as a nurse after 24 years. And I have appreciated the care of the nursing staff at various hospitals during prior surgeries. But you're just not in the league of the top epidemiologists and medical researchers in the country. You claim no short term data when this is the most studied vaccine inhistoryke you are. You're already making false statements in your post.

I know conservatives don't believe in the concept of a social contract where we work together to solve problems, but I do. You violate that social contract when you choose not to be vexed and increase your chance of catching a severe case, which hospitals have to carte for even if the person doesn't have insurance. Go look at sorryantivaxxer.com and see how many of the hospitalized individuals don't have insurance and have to start a go-fund me page. Then there are the people who legitimately can't be vexxed. Unvaxxed persons increase their potential danger.

Oh hell, we've been arguing about this forever. Screw it. I stand by my post.
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No way you just typed that. No way. So many errors in this post.
 
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https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciimmunol.add3899

“No significant differences could be observed between CD4+ and CD8+T-cell responses in individuals vaccinated with different vaccination regimens and in convalescent donors.”

“The booster vaccination led to a significant increase of anti-spike IgG responses which show a marked decline 6 month after complete vaccination. In contrast anti-spike T-cell responses remained stable over time following complete vaccination with no significant effect of booster vaccination on total intensity and frequency of T-cell responses and on cross-recognition of Omicron BA.1 and BA.2 mutations within the spike protein.”

@kiddiedoc sounds like basic immunology to me 🤷🏼‍♂️🤷🏼‍♂️
 
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I will never forget the COVID cult members and how easily they were swayed. You cannot trust people that are so easily duped and ensnared. We knew over 30 years ago that cloth and paper masks weren't effective against viruses. Yet, they COVID cult members slapped those face diapers on as fast as they could when their Lord and Savior Anthony Fouci recommended them.....after he first said they didn't work. There has never been an effective vaccine against a rapidly mutating respiratory virus. Yet, magically here is one that Lord Fouci and his disciples at the CDC are pushing. The COVID cult members said: Come, let us worship, and let those who refuse to worship be cast out amongst us.
 
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