Vaccine or not?

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kiddiedoc said:
What was I wrong about? Did you review the flu surveillance data?
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Let’s back up straw man
When did you become a b….type of guy to throw out assumptions that just aren’t true “lockdowns and double masks” like that’s something I was in favor of? 2 things I’ve clearly been in opposition to from the beginning. That’s just weak.
I read your link.
I’ve read a lot of links. My life and health depend on it and just because someone is a Dr doesn’t mean I trust what they say. In all that reading I found out last year’s flu vaccine was 16% effective. That’s a complete miss. Then I read that this year’s flu vaccine started at 51%. That was said to be “good” but now has fallen into the 35% effective rate. That’s another miss this season.
Maybe next year they will make it back to 50/50.

It’s over
Take the vaccine
Don’t take the vaccine.
Whatever
 
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I've had the flu shot and the other 2 in our home haven't. None of us have the flu to this point. I get a flu shot every year (work around the public unfortunately) and haven't had the flu in over 15 years. I also believe everyone is different and will have different results. I'm also the only one to have 2 covid shots but no booster. Son had covid 3 times (no shots) and wife (no shots) and I had it twice. Again, different results for all of us, shots or no shots 🤷‍♂️
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Never heard of this incident. I'm sure if this were widespread, our media would have been beating the drums on this.
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You’re not listening to the right people.
I’ve heard 10 different versions of that conspiracy.
Could be that the tribes don’t spend much time outside of their own echo chambers
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
You’re not listening to the right people.
I’ve heard 10 different versions of that conspiracy.
Could be that the tribes don’t spend much time outside of their own echo chambers
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Again, this media would have been jumping on a story like that with both feet and broadcasting it non-stop.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Never heard of this incident. I'm sure if this were widespread, our media would have been beating the drums on this.
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my nephew is married to an very nice very misguided young woman. She is about to graduate and become an environmental lawyer. We got into a discussion over micro plastics vs climate change. She said something that I had not heard before but I think is the next wave of how her tribe is going to deal with yours. She compared my concerns about micro plastics to “the anti vaccine crowd “. “They are not serious, they are just trying to confuse the issue instead of having a conversation “.
I responded with “pot / kettle” but now that I’ve had a few minutes to think about it, that’s not something she came up with, that’s what she’s being taught.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Again, this media would have been jumping on a story like that with both feet and broadcasting it non-stop.
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You’re not paying attention.
They don’t have to jump on that. They can ignore you as tinfoil hats and be way more effective. Why give you any credibility when they can equate you to Alex Jones.
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
You’re not paying attention.
They don’t have to jump on that. They can ignore you as tinfoil hats and be way more effective. Why give you any credibility when they can equate you to Alex Jones.
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Again, which supplements are doctors selling? I have not heard that even one time, and I'm definitely paying attention.
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
You’re not paying attention.
They don’t have to jump on that. They can ignore you as tinfoil hats and be way more effective. Why give you any credibility when they can equate you to Alex Jones.
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So not reporting an alleged conspiracy of doctors trying to push supplements is a way of handling conspiracies??? Also, wouldn't this make YOU look like Alex Jones in this case since you are the one spreading this story right now?

And when have these guys ever missed an opportunity to slam on the anti-vaxxers/conspiracy theorists with their nonsense about bleach, fish tank cleaner or rural OK hospitals treating people that took horse paste? If there was any widespread criminal activity involving a group of doctors selling supplements, there is no way they would have passed on that. I'm not saying that there wasn't cases of doctors pushing supplements. I'm just saying that obviously, it isn't in the proportion that was likely serious or widespread.
 
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Covid Australia 2022: Teen misses HSC after pericarditis jab reaction as cardiologist issues warning | Daily Mail Online

A teenage schoolgirl has revealed how she had to miss her HSC exams after a mandatory Covid jab left her with an agonising heart condition for months.

Now a Sydney cardiologist has called for an end to the use of mRNA vaccines like Pfizer and Moderna, after seeing a rise in jab-related heart conditions.

Monica Eskandar, 18, was rushed to hospital with terrifying chest pains just hours after her first Covid vaccination in September last year.

Doctors later diagnosed her with pericarditis, a condition linked with mRNA Covid jabs like Pfizer and Moderna, which causes painful inflammation of the heart lining.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
So not reporting an alleged conspiracy of doctors trying to push supplements is a way of handling conspiracies??? Also, wouldn't this make YOU look like Alex Jones in this case since you are the one spreading this story right now?

And when have these guys ever missed an opportunity to slam on the anti-vaxxers/conspiracy theorists with their nonsense about bleach, fish tank cleaner or rural OK hospitals treating people that took horse paste? If there was any widespread criminal activity involving a group of doctors selling supplements, there is no way they would have passed on that. I'm not saying that there wasn't cases of doctors pushing supplements. I'm just saying that obviously, it isn't in the proportion that was likely serious or widespread.
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Ding ding ding!

It would literally be the lead story on NBC tonight, and people would be demanding that licenses are revoked.
 
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kiddiedoc said:
Again, which supplements are doctors selling? I have not heard that even one time, and I'm definitely paying attention.
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Half the Drs I fired as I’ve worked my way through the system to get where I’m at had special supplements they were selling.
I don’t buy for a second that you don’t know about this scam.
The most common being those damn juice berry capsules
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
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Half the Drs I fired as I’ve worked my way through the system to get where I’m at had special supplements they were selling.
I don’t buy for a second that you don’t know about this scam.
The most common being those damn juice berry capsules
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Have you ever thought that it may be the ones you are going to ? I swear I’ve never heard of the ones we know pushing supplements and for sure not a juice berry one
 
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