Vaccine or not?

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NurseGoodVol said:
Analogies aren’t answers Einstein.
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The FACTS show that those who have been vaxxed and boosted have a statistically significant lower infection and death rate than the unvaxxed. The argument being advanced that I'm opposing, which is a stupid as sh*t argument that a 3rd grader can see through, is that because the vaccine doesn't completely prevent infection or death, it never prevents infection or death.
 
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evillawyer said:
The FACTS show that those who have been vaxxed and boosted have a statistically significant lower infection and death rate than the unvaxxed. The argument being advanced that I'm opposing, which is a stupid as sh*t argument that a 3rd grader can see through, is that because the vaccine doesn't completely prevent infection or death, it never prevents infection or death.
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Oh wait, your boy said it prevented when it came out, that idiot was wrong, so now you had to get the booster and then another booster, etc.. now you're seeing increase in heart issues by healthy people who got jabbed, where the actual sickness normally goes resides. Face it china troll, the jabs you boy Kamala pushes on people has a lot of unknown risks.

I'm assuming the 3rd grader you're referring to went to a private school.
 
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Current data from NYC on vaxxed vs. unvaxxed case and hospitalization rate:

Cases by vaccination status
7-day averages as of Nov. 19

Cases of COVID-19 per 100k vaccinated people17.2
Cases of COVID-19 per 100k unvaccinated people163
Hospitalizations by vaccination status
7-day averages as of Nov. 19

Hospitalizations per 100k vaccinated people1
Hospitalizations per 100k unvaccinated people6.5
 
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happy-go_vol said:
Oh wait, your boy said it prevented when it came out, that idiot was wrong, so now you had to get the booster and then another booster, etc.. now you're seeing increase in heart issues by healthy people who got jabbed, where the actual sickness normally goes resides. Face it china troll, the jabs you boy Kamala pushes on people has a lot of unknown risks.

I'm assuming the 3rd grader you're referring to went to a private school.
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Well, on top of that, the data now shows more people with the vax are dying than without.

And Pfizer in European court admitted to not testing it for effectiveness before blasting it out to everyone.

And all the stuff about myocarditis is proving to be true- the window used to be that that was a conspiracy theory, if you'll remember.

And oh yeah, none of the boosters deployed account for variations and mutations that have already occurred- we're running on like a six-month old formula here, which means the shot won't do anything to whatever current strains are out there.
 
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ButchPlz said:
Well, on top of that, the data now shows more people with the vax are dying than without.

And Pfizer in European court admitted to not testing it for effectiveness before blasting it out to everyone.

And all the stuff about myocarditis is proving to be true- the window used to be that that was a conspiracy theory, if you'll remember.

And oh yeah, none of the boosters deployed account for variations and mutations that have already occurred- we're running on like a six-month old formula here, which means the shot won't do anything to whatever current strains are out there.
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The thing about mutations is that a virus becomes weaker as it mutates because it loses information, these vaccines are not needed because the mutated vaccines are weaker
 
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happy-go_vol said:
The thing about mutations is that a virus becomes weaker as it mutates because it loses information, these vaccines are not needed because the mutated vaccines are weaker
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It's pretty simple- pretty much all viruses get less deadly because they evolve to survive and spread; if they killed everyone they'd kill themselves as well.
 
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Saw where Lady Vol Tamari Keys has blood clots in her lungs. I'm almost certain she's vaxed. Hope she's able to recover quickly.
 
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Imagine being so easily swayed by the media that you suddenly trust multi billion dollar pharmaceutical companies who exist SOLELY to make money, despite the fact that up until a few years ago pharma companies were some of the least trusted on the planet. Now go and start reading up on the lawsuits and settlements paid out by those companies, and come back here and tell us how they would NEVER lie to us.
 
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evillawyer said:
I'm not celebrating anything. I'm pointing out that many of those Republicans who did not get vaccinated did so for political ideology reasons ... which cost them their life.
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I’m sure they’re just pointing out that people got vaccinated for the same reason and it cost them their lives.

Or are you denying there have been side effects?
 
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utvolpj said:
If more people wearing seatbelts were dying than those who weren't would you still tout their efficacy?

What if there was a chance that your seat belt would suddenly tighten and affect your heart function or might even kill you? Still buckling up like a good little lamb?

Of course the seat belt comparison is idiotic and has been since the start of this scam. There are certain groups who may benefit from the vax but most won't. The stats show losing weight and moving to a healthy lifestyle would be even more beneficial for the vast majority of Americans
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If 71-80 percent of people were wearing seatbelts and 52-58 percent of deaths were seatbelt wearers. Then that would be an equivalent comparison to Covid.
Math is hard but you’re still more likely to die being unvaccinated…..even if the majority of deaths are vaccinated
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
If 71-80 percent of people were wearing seatbelts and 52-58 percent of deaths were seatbelt wearers. Then that would be an equivalent comparison to Covid.
Math is hard but you’re still more likely to die being unvaccinated…..even if the majority of deaths are vaccinated
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I assume you adjusted for age and comorbidities? I addressed them in my post
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
Nope,
Your post reminded me of something else.
I was using your post to address the propaganda that has been posted too many time to count.
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The vast majority of healthy people under a certain age won't benefit from the vax and it could do more harm than good ( ironically that is also true for seatbelts since there is an age/ height limit but that's another post). Pushing some one size fits all approach with vax and with data reporting simply doesn't work.
 
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utvolpj said:
The vast majority of healthy people under a certain age won't benefit from the vax and it could do more harm than good ( ironically that is also true for seatbelts since there is an age/ height limit but that's another post). Pushing some one size fits all approach with vax and with data reporting simply doesn't work.
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absolutely agree
 
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