Vaccine or not?

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#29,151
Orangeslice13 said:
We had several miscarriages and honestly I think of them as much as the one I had to bury. It’s especially had on our women. Yours is lucky to have someone like you who “gets it”. Edit: and still understands his job to defend his family.
That pain never ends does it?
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Good grief Slice, you and Red have been through it man. Shes gotta be tough as nails like my wife is. Fwiw I envy you man. I saw where you said since you sold the old company, you were working with your sons doing additions, remodels, etc? I would love to spend everyday building with my kids...to have a chance to teach them what I know. My FIL was a lifelong contractor as well and my wife saw how his knees, back etc were shot by 55 or 60...and Ive had 2 back surgeries myself from work...so we really pushed ours to go the college route and not work a trade. I envy you being able to work with your boys though and be around them all the time like that. Selfishly I would give anything just to have all that time with my kids everyday. I am sure there is some stress and worry too that goes along with it, but it seems like you have been quite successful which means you have a great reputation, repeat loyal business, and likely lots of work. My FIL was the same. In 30 plus years he never spent a dime on advertising, but was able to stay busy because he did good work and always treated customers in a selfless and God pleasing way. Even the difficult ones. I am happy for you and your family bud. I think youre a couple years older than me, you have grandkids yet?
 
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marcusluvsvols said:
Good grief Slice, you and Red have been through it man. Shes gotta be tough as nails like my wife is. Fwiw I envy you man. I saw where you said since you sold the old company, you were working with your sons doing additions, remodels, etc? I would love to spend everyday building with my kids...to have a chance to teach them what I know. My FIL was a lifelong contractor as well and my wife saw how his knees, back etc were shot by 55 or 60...and Ive had 2 back surgeries myself from work...so we really pushed ours to go the college route and not work a trade. I envy you being able to work with your boys though and be around them all the time like that. Selfishly I would give anything just to have all that time with my kids everyday. I am sure there is some stress and worry too that goes along with it, but it seems like you have been quite successful which means you have a great reputation, repeat loyal business, and likely lots of work. My FIL was the same. In 30 plus years he never spent a dime on advertising, but was able to stay busy because he did good work and always treated customers in a selfless and God pleasing way. Even the difficult ones. I am happy for you and your family bud. I think youre a couple years older than me, you have grandkids yet?
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Thanks for the kind words.
My woman is special. She’s been through so much and now at 54 years old works so hard to take care of herself that people would not know that she has had struggles, much less what all she’s been through. G-d blessed me with a righteous woman and I’m grateful. Ya working with my sons is really cool. I have the same book of clients that I work for so it’s like seeing friends every day. We’re actually having dinner with some tonight. I decided about 10 years ago that if I was going to do what I love for the rest of my life I have to be healthy so I stay in front of health issues. I’m not growing old gracefully, I’m fighting it every step of the way.

And I’m going to be honest here. I almost went broke taking care of Red in the worst of it. I didn’t because a VFL reading VN reached out to me and got us all the help we could need and they took care of everything. The Moro clinic, the clinical trials. The putting up with my BS as I wanted studies and was so picky about Drs. They actually encouraged me to do it. The only catch is I’m not allowed to tell anyone who they are. Just that they’re VFLs and they help who they help without acknowledgement. So that’s what I tell people. Otherwise I would probably lost everything and be working 3 jobs instead of semi retired. I try to give back by working pro bono as much as I can for veterans and women who survived a bad situation. It does not appear that either of my sons are interested in dating anyone longer than 6 months so I’m beginning to believe grand Kids are unlikely. Lol
There’s still Time though.

I say all that to say this.
It’s obvious that you’re built from the same material I am. Just put together better. The respect you have for me is mutual.
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
Thanks for the kind words.
My woman is special. She’s been through so much and now at 54 years old works so hard to take care of herself that people would not know that she has had struggles, much less what all she’s been through. G-d blessed me with a righteous woman and I’m grateful. Ya working with my sons is really cool. I have the same book of clients that I work for so it’s like seeing friends every day. We’re actually having dinner with some tonight. I decided about 10 years ago that if I was going to do what I love for the rest of my life I have to be healthy so I stay in front of health issues. I’m not growing old gracefully, I’m fighting it every step of the way.

And I’m going to be honest here. I almost went broke taking care of Red in the worst of it. I didn’t because a VFL reading VN reached out to me and got us all the help we could need and they took care of everything. The Moro clinic, the clinical trials. The putting up with my BS as I wanted studies and was so picky about Drs. They actually encouraged me to do it. The only catch is I’m not allowed to tell anyone who they are. Just that they’re VFLs and they help who they help without acknowledgement. So that’s what I tell people. Otherwise I would probably lost everything and be working 3 jobs instead of semi retired. I try to give back by working pro bono as much as I can for veterans and women who survived a bad situation. It does not appear that either of my sons are interested in dating anyone longer than 6 months so I’m beginning to believe grand Kids are unlikely. Lol
There’s still Time though.

I say all that to say this.
It’s obvious that you’re built from the same material I am. Just put together better. The respect you have for me is mutual.
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Thats amazing man. Great to hear that God used a VFL to help with the most important part of life. Tennessee folks are just special. Appreciate the kind words as well bro. Hopefully we can get together for lunch sometime when i am back up there . I would love to grab a meal or a beer with lots of the folks from the PF. We have a really good group of dudes in here. Even the 1 or 2 that I butt heads with from time to time are probably decent folks. They are VOLS after all so they do have at least 1 redeeming quality lol.
 
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marcusluvsvols said:
Thats amazing man. Great to hear that God used a VFL to help with the most important part of life. Tennessee folks are just special. Appreciate the kind words as well bro. Hopefully we can get together for lunch sometime when i am back up there . I would love to grab a meal or a beer with lots of the folks from the PF. We have a really good group of dudes in here. Even the 1 or 2 that I butt heads with from time to time are probably decent folks. They are VOLS after all so they do have at least 1 redeeming quality lol.
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We’ll get @Orangeburst too. He’s a HIXSON guy
 
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I vaccinated my maple tree, but the spotted lanternfly proved to be too resistant. I think I'll try bleach next.
 
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Carl Pickens said:
True, but the whole world was pretty stupid over the whole thing too.
Nobody knew wtf to do…..
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History is full of lessons on what to do. Read about past experiments done on citizens in the past. Especially the military. Tuskegee, LSD, and many more examples of what government does are out there. Next time just remember rule #1: DON'T trust the government. When they said "it's untested" I knew what to do. When they gave cover to big pharma, I knew what to do. Next time YOU now know what to do. Believe me, it got old hearing people say "It's your fault we are still dealing with this" I read almost EVERTHING I could find on Covid trying to determine if I was wrong. One side was very consistent. The other changed it's position every couple of weeks. I feel I made the correct decision. The castle walls of the other side are collapsing at an ever increasing rate. More and more their "facts" are being proven false. Big guys are now speaking out about it.
 

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It wasn't that long ago when vaccine apologists openly said vaccine injuries did not exist. Funny how now that it's pretty much common knowledge that they do indeed cause irreparable harm these same people simply change the narrative to they saved more lives then they killed.

This young man who was in his 20s, 12 days after receiving the vaccine, collapsed and died. A coroner found the cause of death was myocarditis, or heart inflammation, and that the myocarditis was caused by the vaccine.

Man Who Died Suddenly From Vaccine-Induced Myocarditis Wasn’t Informed of Side Effect Man Who Died Suddenly From Vaccine-Induced Myocarditis Wasn’t Informed of Side Effect
 
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From the article:

“’I learned from our FOIA lady here how to make emails disappear after I am FOIA’d but before the search starts. So I think we are all safe,'” Comer read into the record from one email exchange with EcoHealth Alliance president Dr. Peter Daszak.

“‘Plus I deleted most of those earlier emails after sending them to Gmail,’” Comer said continuing to read before asking Tabak, “Is that consistent with NIH document retention policies?”

“It is not,” Tabak said, adding with alarm that he “certainly hope[d]” Morens hadn’t been coached by the NIH FOIA office to evade the requests.

nypost.com

Fauci adviser who bragged about deleting ‘smoking gun’ emails to be grilled by COVID panel

Ex-NIAID senior scientific adviser Dr. David Morens will testify about his potential violations of federal record-keeping laws and attempts to obstruct a House investigation.
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CobbVol said:
From the article:

“’I learned from our FOIA lady here how to make emails disappear after I am FOIA’d but before the search starts. So I think we are all safe,'” Comer read into the record from one email exchange with EcoHealth Alliance president Dr. Peter Daszak.

“‘Plus I deleted most of those earlier emails after sending them to Gmail,’” Comer said continuing to read before asking Tabak, “Is that consistent with NIH document retention policies?”

“It is not,” Tabak said, adding with alarm that he “certainly hope[d]” Morens hadn’t been coached by the NIH FOIA office to evade the requests.

nypost.com

Fauci adviser who bragged about deleting ‘smoking gun’ emails to be grilled by COVID panel

Ex-NIAID senior scientific adviser Dr. David Morens will testify about his potential violations of federal record-keeping laws and attempts to obstruct a House investigation.
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True public servants here…I’ll be shocked if he even gets canned for this.
 
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CobbVol said:
From the article:

“’I learned from our FOIA lady here how to make emails disappear after I am FOIA’d but before the search starts. So I think we are all safe,'” Comer read into the record from one email exchange with EcoHealth Alliance president Dr. Peter Daszak.

“‘Plus I deleted most of those earlier emails after sending them to Gmail,’” Comer said continuing to read before asking Tabak, “Is that consistent with NIH document retention policies?”

“It is not,” Tabak said, adding with alarm that he “certainly hope[d]” Morens hadn’t been coached by the NIH FOIA office to evade the requests.

nypost.com

Fauci adviser who bragged about deleting ‘smoking gun’ emails to be grilled by COVID panel

Ex-NIAID senior scientific adviser Dr. David Morens will testify about his potential violations of federal record-keeping laws and attempts to obstruct a House investigation.
nypost.com nypost.com
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As someone that has visibility into some of the organizations (and similar other ones) this is par for the course at the 15+/exec. service levels. If a lower level person tried this kind of stuff, though...(unless, of course, it implicated a boss).
 
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