Vaccine or not?

[Rasputin_Vol]

You have no idea what we’ve been through and who did what to us.
You do like to assume things though

You are alive and @marcusluvsvols FIL was held hostage in a hospital and died. Nothing you (allegedly) went through is worse than that.

 

[Orangeslice13]

You are alive and @marcusluvsvols FIL was held hostage in a hospital and died. Nothing you (allegedly) went through is worse than that.

you have no idea what you’re talking about.
No clue.

I lost a child……dick……all because of antidotal F up on the part of an ER dr. I learned from it and Red later survived liver cancer because we knew for ourselves what works and what doesn’t. So ya, I’ve seen worse.


And again….not about his family or mine.
He responded to multiple people in one post. I responded to his response to jnx. I removed all the other text to make that clear.

 

[kiddiedoc]

This was our experience as well. My wife, kids, and I never got the jab thankfully nor will we. We used ivermectin liberally any time we felt that we may have been exposed during the early period of cov19 when things were crazy. None of us ever got really sick though.

My FIL however who was older, a little overweight etc got covid...was taken to the hospital and kidnapped for 21 days where we could not see him even when the police were called to the hospital...when my wife with legal papers in hand, after much drama including meeting with hospital execs with a lawyer present was finally able to see him on the 21st day he was apparently ventilated since day 1, had developed multiple preventable secondary infections including bedsores. Had never received any antiviral drugs, ivermectin etc despite my wife fighting with the hospital since day 1 to get those drugs given to him. He was unresponsive, comatose, and kept alive only by the machines by the time any family was able to see him those 3 weeks later. He died within 48 hours. My wife had abandoned her job, largely our family, and spent everyday at that hospital for 3 weeks trying to get updates on his condition and trying to see her Dad. They tried to have her removed despite her pleas...threatened to have us arrested, and refused to give him Hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin or any other antiviral treatment from day 1 when he was admitted. They straight up kidnapped and killed my FIL. My wife has an audio tape of 1 of his doctors saying that he refused to feed my FIL or give him more antibiotics around day 19. My MIL is trying to file suit for his wrongful death etc




Exactly. A portion of the medical community completely abandoned their training, honor, integrity, the scientific method, logic and reason. It was shameful. The masks in particular are so damn crazy when those tiny virus pass directly through them though...yet I STILL SEE people wearing them sometimes to this very day. So crazy man...not old retired people either. I can kinda understand that for those who are actually vulnerable. I see young people though...riding ALONE in their cars with masks on LMAO HAHAHA

That's hard to read, my man. I'm so sorry for your loss and the failure of the medical community. Please know that there are still good people in medicine that try to do the right thing every day.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

you have no idea what you’re talking about.
No clue.

I lost a child……dick……all because of antidotal F up on the part of an ER dr. I learned from it and Red later survived liver cancer because we knew for ourselves what works and what doesn’t. So ya, I’ve seen worse.


And again….not about his family or mine.
He responded to multiple people in one post. I responded to his response to jnx. I removed all the other text to make that clear.

Sorry for your loss, but the death in your family is not "far worse" than the death in his family. Again, you are a narcissist. Your pain isn't more important than anyone else's. Get over yourself.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Nothing to do with his family

I find it interesting that you would be dismissive of an event that affected @marcusluvsvols family with regards to his feelings about the medical community, but your family's experience of medical malpractice (wrong prescription) is "far worse".

I'm also trying to reconcile how you first posted about blindly "accepting antidotal drugs and treatments" (voluntary decision), but later you claim medical malpractice (out of your control). And with regards to C-19 treatments, who is to say that you were not blindly following the conventional treatments this time?

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

I am unvaccinated. Aren’t I supposed to be dead by now?

 

[Orangeslice13]

Sorry for your loss, but the death in your family is not "far worse" than the death in his family. Again, you are a narcissist. Your pain isn't more important than anyone else's. Get over yourself.

And neither are relevant to my post no matter how hard you try to drag it in.

And don’t waste time saying things you don’t mean. “Sorry for your loss but….” Followed by attacks isn’t sympathy or remorse, it’s evidence of what type person you are. A liar.

 

[Orangeslice13]

I find it interesting that you would be dismissive of ….

Well, 1st what you find interesting is irrelevant. You are the biggest liar on the board. You regularly make up things about others to try and justify why they disagree with you. For example about me you’ve claimed that “ I just listen to the Drs at CHI and do what they say, I don’t think for myself “ which is an ironic statement coming from you. you’ve also claimed that “I tried to get you to meet at the Dayton blvd Waffle House to fight you”. Both outright falsehoods. Now you are attempting to drag information from one topic of a post into the other from a post where one is irrelevant to the point of the other.

The only reason I can think of is your attitude change towards me when I pointed out that you are a Muslim. You called the Koran “your holy book “ in the Bible thread. Not sure why this became a problem for you. if there’s some ofter reason you got mad and started acting like a dick then explain it. You might want to try communicating what you think instead of making things up.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Well, 1st what you find interesting is irrelevant. You are the biggest liar on the board.

I simply tell the uncomfortable truth. You have turned out to be the biggest liar on the board.

You regularly make up things about others to try and justify why they disagree with you. For example about me you’ve claimed that “ I just listen to the Drs at CHI and do what they say, I don’t think for myself “ which is an ironic statement coming from you.

I said something like that and even you said it yesterday...

Nothing to do with his family
I promise you I have been through far worse with the medical community in the last 10 years.
Blindly accepting antidotal drugs and treatments is a killer and we’re still here while nobody else from our support group is.

you’ve also claimed that “I tried to get you to meet at the Dayton blvd Waffle House to fight you”. Both outright falsehoods.

I've said a bunch of places in Chattanooga just to mock you after you did challenge me to a fight just because I called you a liar. Dayton BLVD, Cherokee BLVD, Hixson Pike... whatever. You were behaving like an emotional jerk just because you lied and I called you out on your lie.

Now you are attempting to drag information from one topic of a post into the other from a post where one is irrelevant to the point of the other.

You keep repeating this lie but have yet to explain why @marcusluvsvols family and his experience is not relevant to the discussion with regards to trusting doctors and medical studies. But when challenged on that point, you fall back to now relating your very own family's bad experience with medical staff. How is your family's medical trauma more relevant and important than anyone else's? If anything, you should be sympathetic to @marcusluvsvols experience.

The only reason I can think of is your attitude change towards me when I pointed out that you are a Muslim. You called the Koran “your holy book “ in the Bible thread. Not sure why this became a problem for you.

Here you go lying again. I've been openly saying I'm an atheist for quite sometime. Me saying that the Koran is my holy book is ridiculous. Now, is it possible that I said it was "a" holy book? Possibly. But see, here is where your deception tricks come in because the thread seems to have disappeared and there is no way of you proving I said that or me disproving it. Very wicked snakish way of lying.

if there’s some ofter reason you got mad and started acting like a dick then explain it. You might want to try communicating what you think instead of making things up.

When you outright lied and I called you on it and when you lied and called me a Muslim were indeed the reasons. And anyways, so what if I were a Muslim? Why is that a slur in your mind? Meanwhile, I could tell the truth about you and you would likely call me an antisemite.

 

[Orangeslice13]

I simply tell the uncomfortable truth. You have turned out to be the biggest liar on the board.


I said something like that and even you said it yesterday...




I've said a bunch of places in Chattanooga just to mock you after you did challenge me to a fight just because I called you a liar. Dayton BLVD, Cherokee BLVD, Hixson Pike... whatever. You were behaving like an emotional jerk just because you lied and I called you out on your lie.


You keep repeating this lie but have yet to explain why @marcusluvsvols family and his experience is not relevant to the discussion with regards to trusting doctors and medical studies. But when challenged on that point, you fall back to now relating your very own family's bad experience with medical staff. How is your family's medical trauma more relevant and important than anyone else's? If anything, you should be sympathetic to @marcusluvsvols experience.


Here you go lying again. I've been openly saying I'm an atheist for quite sometime. Me saying that the Koran is my holy book is ridiculous. Now, is it possible that I said it was "a" holy book? Possibly. But see, here is where your deception tricks come in because the thread seems to have disappeared and there is no way of you proving I said that or me disproving it. Very wicked snakish way of lying.


When you outright lied and I called you on it and when you lied and called me a Muslim were indeed the reasons. And anyways, so what if I were a Muslim? Why is that a slur in your mind? Meanwhile, I could tell the truth about you and you would likely call me an antisemite.

So you have no examples of me lying.
Then you tell a lie of “something like that”
Still can’t prove I challenged you to anything beyond a race ….just like @NashVol11. That’s how I handle disputes. Or @Sgt_Nick_Fury he was envolved in the challenge as well. And it was at the HIXSON high school track. To run…not to fight.
More accusational name calling but I’m the one mad? Ok.
Trying to drag someone else into your delusion when it’s clear what part it the post I was responding too. The only thing you can confront me on as being untrue is now unprovable as the thread was deleted. I guess you’re not black now either?
Again another accusation without any form of proof. You’re the one pitching a fit because you outed yourself as a Muslim. I take no issue with it. I’m simply responding to you.

It’s not lost on me that you don’t seem to care for proof, truth and reality.

 

[Orangeslice13]

Let’s review what Ras does not want to talk about.

By the numbers
-The Covid 19 vaccine was effective in the first wave for high risk individuals.
-healthy young adults and children should not need it.
-masks in hindsight are proving to be a disaster. Especially the homemade cloth masks. (No numbers on that at the time other than proper procedure for masking in a medical environment would make general public masking impossible.
-ivermectin is safe as a medicine but doesn’t effect covid 19 in any way.
-medical professionals are not out to get you. They are making the best decisions they can doing what they believe is right based on their training. Sometimes they make mistakes but it’s not an act of terror against you. When I lost one of the twins at delivery the ER Dr made a decision that was not the best by the numbers (studies) the high risk OBGYN got there and corrected the situation. My other son and wife survived. They were all very sick. I can not say the ER Dr killed my son with a bad decision….there’s no way to know if my son would have survived had a different decision been made.
Edit: forgot lock downs. The ultimate stupidity. The lockdowns killed more people than any side effect

I got an education that day. Everyone better know their Drs and know them well because when the emergency hits it’s too late.

 

[Jxn Vol]

Apparently a side effect of the experimental Covid shot is to challenge other men to race shirtless.

What a show.

 

[VolinWayne]

Let’s review what Ras does not want to talk about.

By the numbers
-The Covid 19 vaccine was effective in the first wave for high risk individuals.
-healthy young adults and children should not need it.
-masks in hindsight are proving to be a disaster. Especially the homemade cloth masks. (No numbers on that at the time other than proper procedure for masking in a medical environment would make general public masking impossible.
-ivermectin is safe as a medicine but doesn’t effect covid 19 in any way.
-medical professionals are not out to get you. They are making the best decisions they can doing what they believe is right based on their training. Sometimes they make mistakes but it’s not an act of terror against you. When I lost one of the twins at delivery the ER Dr made a decision that was not the best by the numbers (studies) the high risk OBGYN got there and corrected the situation. My other son and wife survived. They were all very sick. I can not say the ER Dr killed my son with a bad decision….there’s no way to know if my son would have survived had a different decision been made.
Edit: forgot lock downs. The ultimate stupidity. The lockdowns killed more people than any side effect

I got an education that day. Everyone better know their Drs and know them well because when the emergency hits it’s too late.

Man I hate to hear what you and your wife went through loosing a child like that!! Just out of curiosity, what type of treatments do you give credit to what healed your wife of cancer?

 

[ButchPlz]

I simply tell the uncomfortable truth. You have turned out to be the biggest liar on the board.


I said something like that and even you said it yesterday...




I've said a bunch of places in Chattanooga just to mock you after you did challenge me to a fight just because I called you a liar. Dayton BLVD, Cherokee BLVD, Hixson Pike... whatever. You were behaving like an emotional jerk just because you lied and I called you out on your lie.


You keep repeating this lie but have yet to explain why @marcusluvsvols family and his experience is not relevant to the discussion with regards to trusting doctors and medical studies. But when challenged on that point, you fall back to now relating your very own family's bad experience with medical staff. How is your family's medical trauma more relevant and important than anyone else's? If anything, you should be sympathetic to @marcusluvsvols experience.


Here you go lying again. I've been openly saying I'm an atheist for quite sometime. Me saying that the Koran is my holy book is ridiculous. Now, is it possible that I said it was "a" holy book? Possibly. But see, here is where your deception tricks come in because the thread seems to have disappeared and there is no way of you proving I said that or me disproving it. Very wicked snakish way of lying.


When you outright lied and I called you on it and when you lied and called me a Muslim were indeed the reasons. And anyways, so what if I were a Muslim? Why is that a slur in your mind? Meanwhile, I could tell the truth about you and you would likely call me an antisemite.

This is what's baffling. Claiming medical issues in the family then having zero empathy and a total lack of desire to understand other people that have had issues and have distrust of the medical system... pretending not to see why people have issues then bashing them over the head with some irrelevant club of "science" (while ignoring science) is just weird and hostile.

 

[Sgt_Nick_Fury]

Can you prove anything yet?
Nope
So spare me your uneducated self righteous ****tardery.

Can you tell me the appropriate telemetry method for executing the Apollo landing on the moon? No? HA no moon landing then! It must not have happened? What are the price of eggs in China? did you think about that?

This is how your argument sounds to me. Countless experts in the field warned what would happen. Countless Experts in their field have testified. The evidence is in, the record explosion in myocarditus deaths, aggresive super cancers. The info on the dirty DNA reminants in ALL MRNA vaccines. But you would rather try and play semantics then just say "hey I may have gotten that wrong" When it comes to the deaths of millions of people I do tend to get just a little preachy and self righteous. The real messed up part is wether you are an apologist for the pharmaceuticals, or out to show the number of vax injuries...NO ONE can say how many may die as a result of the vaxxines, because many of the injuries are long term, and unable to be proven easily what direct connection exists, but we do know that some event happened about the same time of mandetory vaccines, and that now around the world people are having significant health issues and fatalities.... Everything about the MRNA shots went against 50-60 years of vaccine practice.....those that were trained to know better, did nothing as a whole to object to it....and now many people have lives ruined or will die well beyond the numbers from COVID.

I have family members in the medical field that got hoodwinked.....they just couldn't imagine the CDC,FDA, or WHo could be malicious. (Ignoring the past century of horrible things done by CDC especially). that people were tricked...is understandable. that people still refuse to admit any mistake in judgement is becoming criminal however. That is what make me self righteously angry......they tried to force this **** on kids even.

So if I come across as self righteous, then save me your indignation....because this isn't about a mistake in the past this is many people still refusing to admit to a crime that is currently still killing people and will for decades. Billions were made in profit from this, so they will do it again...and if people will not wake up....it will be done again..and done more efficiently. The WHo even now is trying to make sure next time people and governments will have a harder time opting out.

What I do know about is the ideas, philosophy and track records of those behind it....and all that is needed for their psycopathy to succeed, is people to put pride ahead of reason, and continue to be naive. They have not hidden their Agenda it was published in plain site, they have openly stated what they would do, the depopulation cult counts on people simply following orders and doing what they are told. De ja vu right? Box cars before, shots now.

I used to wonder....how in the world the Nazi's got so many people to go along with such evil....i don't anymore. Most people simply do not question.

 

[Sgt_Nick_Fury]

Meanwhile the deaths will continue, and so does teh persecution of honest doctors trying to warn people. Those rare medical professionals that question authority, when it defies medical practices and norms.



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He describes in detail several possible mechanisms that could lead to cancer in susceptible individuals. 1- He says the liposomal nanoparticles or LNP go systemic in the body. 2- Pseudouridine modification of the mRNA vaccine which stabilizes the RNA suppresses innate immune surveillance by dampening activity of toll-like receptors. 3- DNA fragments might integrate thereby disrupting tumor suppressor genes. 4- Plasmid DNA may be taken up by the microbiome which can amplify it. 5- Repeated shots cause shift to IgG4 which is associated with tolerance and seems associated with more flu or repeated COVID infection.“The more doses the more damage to the immune system”The interview includes mention of
@P_J_Buckhaults

@Kevin_McKernan
Angus Dalgleish among others. Doctors being persecuted for causing vaccine hesitancy.

 

[Sgt_Nick_Fury]

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Through Freedom of Information Act requests, the Epoch Times has found that CDC officials, by late 2021, had already found evidence that the COVID-19 vaccines caused multiple deaths.
Yet they continued to publicly claim for the next two years that there was no evidence linking the COVID-19 genetic vaccines to any deaths reported in VAERS.
In other news, a new peer-reviewed review paper has linked the COVID-19 vaccines with psychosis symptoms, and the Cleveland Clinic is reporting that the current COVID booster formulation provides a low level of protection from SARS-CoV-2, and a higher number of prior vaccine doses is associated with a higher risk of COVID-19

 

[Orangeslice13]

Apparently a side effect of the experimental Covid shot is to challenge other men to race shirtless.

What a show.

I’ll whip your ass too.
In a 5k, at 55 I ain’t fighting anyone.


Unless attacked and that’s just fighting my way to a gun.

 

[Sgt_Nick_Fury]

 

[Orangeslice13]

Man I hate to hear what you and your wife went through loosing a child like that!! Just out of curiosity, what type of treatments do you give credit to what healed your wife of cancer?

Oddly enough it was so simple it was stupid.
She had severe H.E.L.P. If you want to look it up.
She was way above stroke level with her blood pressure. They tried so BS I didn’t understand and were taking her to an emergency DNC when the situation turned serious and I was arrested. Ultimately the high risk guy got there and took over. He literally put her on her side in a certain position to get her blood pressure down where it needed to be we needed 48 hours for the steroids to bring us to a place where the babies would survive. This is where, as I was being lead out in cuffs the OBGYN screamed at the ER Dr “this is basic stuff you stupid MFer” did I mention that tempers were running high.
A few minutes later the OBGYN shows up at the cop car with the hospital administrator and got me released. That’s when he got to tell me that I had lost a son but, while the other was alive and Reds BP was down we were not out of the woods.

Short story long Red made it 38 hours before the emergency C section. My son was 30 weeks 1.2 pounds and stayed in NICU for 16ish weeks. One of the best memories I have was introducing my son at about 20 years old to the dr that fought me over the DNC and saying “this is P.Nut who you tried to murder”.

Thanks for asking.

As far as the cancer…we were faithful in all things. Nutrition and medical treatments. We were lucky enough to be with Drs at Mayo who considered us partners and made decisions with us based on research instead of imposing their plans on us. Honestly it was the entire process that made the difference

 

[Orangeslice13]

Can you tell me the appropriate telemetry method for executing the Apollo landing on the moon? No? HA no moon landing then! It must not have happened? What are the price of eggs in China?

I could answer all that with research and the desire to do so.

 

[Jxn Vol]

I’ll whip your ass too.
In a 5k, at 55 I ain’t fighting anyone.


Unless attacked and that’s just fighting my way to a gun.

I’m certain you wouldn’t win the 5k. I come from a family of runners.

Oh and my gun is bigger than yours.

 

[BigOrangeMojo]

Can tell you aren't in this industry as life insurers are making more profits and having all time stock prices while premiums are flat/slightly lower than 5 yrs ago...

Posting an Ed Dowd disciple (i.e., the guy who lost his investor's $$$ trying to start an investment fund to short life insurance stocks)..

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

Sorry for your loss, but the death in your family is not "far worse" than the death in his family. Again, you are a narcissist. Your pain isn't more important than anyone else's. Get over yourself.

Wow. Seriously? Cognitive dissonance snaps to mind in regards to your post

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

I am unvaccinated. Aren’t I supposed to be dead by now?

Your just plugged back in to the matrix. Welcome back.